During my first visit to Hong Kong and Las Chavelas I was approached several times by bar girls who were nice enough but simply just not what I was looking for. I found they do not necessarily take a simple no thank you and most after I was firm demanded a tip. I want to be sure to always treat the bar girls respectful just in case the next time I am more interested in them. I will be returning the beginning of September and would appreciate any pointers from the more experienced on this or other good pointers.
…and yes. This is the same idiot who walked into and spent is first night in Tijuana at Las Chavelas Bar thinking it was Hong Kong!
If they say no and ask for a tip while offering a body part to grope, I will give them a dollar. Otherwise I was say "no thank you" to the tip request and they almost always move on.
You will also run into girls that will walk up and say, "Tip for me?" If they are not attractive I will say "no thank you." Some of them can get pretty annoying in that you tip them once and on their next lap around the room, they are again asking you for a tip. It is your own fault, identifying yourself as a mark with a dollar.
Yes, be respectful when declining BGs but do not worry too much, they will not hold it against you if you change your mind later on.
A simple "No thank you" usually suffices, if they ask again or why, I simply repeat myself "no thank you"
I only grope tip BGs I want to grope tip, and I like to select the BGs I buy fichas for (I usually move on when they walk up to me or a mesero brings them over).
I have in area strip clubs tried, "I'm waiting for someone". Bad move, they will ask who, and offer to go find her in the dressing room.
It is a touchy situation.
But just for the sake of the female esprit de corps, I have found in local underground clubs that if the girl is being extremely forward, best just to show by example that if a girl is that forward, then she gets what she wants.
As mentioned, a simple “no thank you” will suffice. Or “maybe later” or “sorry, no.” Don’t worry about offending them or ruining your chances for a later hook-up. There’s so many other options. I try not to stay in one spot too long. I like to move around freely in the club to see what’s happening at various stages. I only like tipping stage girls. They’re the ones working and putting on a show and they deserve it a hell of a lot more than someone who’s just walking around and essentially panhandling.
I wish to thank all of you who have been there for taking the time to share your thoughts on this subject. I will be there this Wednesday and Thursday and will use your suggestions.
This past Monday afternoon I ran into a BG I had taken arriba twice previously (one great, one average experience) and told I her "i was good, not today."
She gave me a big smile, kiss on the cheek and kept working the room.
Do not worry about offending a BG by saying "no thank you," just be polite.
As I see it, women are basically the same world round.
They ways they present themselves as civvies are not ever really all that they are.
But the ways that they present themselves for P4P are not ever really all that they are either.
To appreciate them you have to let some kind of a relationship develop. So best is to select the one you want, the one you expect to be waking up in the mornings with regularly.
If a TJ BG jumped onto my lap and demanded a fischa drink, and I did not want to arriba with her, I think I would just tell her I am waiting for someone and shine her on.
If she did it as some have posted and got both hands on my head and started ramming her tongue into my mouth, and then demanded either fisha or arriba, if I did not want to go arriba with her, I would try to avoid the kissing. But if I could not avoid it, I think I would just tell her I was waiting for someone and hand her some money ($20 ?).
But if she really did it that way, I think also that for the female esprit de corps, I would be inclined to find it in my heart to give her what she wants, so it would be just like I had selected and approached her, so fisha, +plus front room money and makeout session, + arriba, + trying to steer it to TLN.
Any girl I dont want to go with is told to move on or I report them to the manager and he makes them leave or lose the privelege of working out of his establishment.
PL's are often giving women money. And Womanizers are often giving women money. But they do this for completely different reasons, even opposite reasons.
I do not have this problem i bring plenty of ones for this purpose. I do not sit down unless i have picked my own chica. I let my chica know shes a goddess tip her very well. Make her feel special. You must get her to warm up. The front room makeout session will happen. That leads to gfe upstairs. Then get her number get to know her see her out of club in tj. They will get their visa and come visit you Then the gorgeous chica will be in your own bed.
First i dont like fake boobs so francis wouldnt get very far to me. I pick my chicas i dont always start with buckets. Sometimes i just buy a Ficha to feel her out. The fact she didnt finish her ficha means one thing. She will take alot to get her to warm up. Chicas only make a few pesos off a ficha. Their real money is arriba and tips. So i understand but unless you really like her best to let her move on. Way to many pretty chicas. Now she should have finished her ficha. But i already have decided i want them before i sit down with a chica. But if she couldnt stay with me for a ficha i would have moved on. 9 times out of 10 bad arriba
And a Shark is one that has bad intentions. Being a poor provider does not make one a Shark.
And ROB is even more serious.
I've always said that it is best to select and approach the one you want. That way there is no ambiguity, and even in a P4P venue, that sill carries a lot of weight with the ladies.
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You will also run into girls that will walk up and say, "Tip for me?" If they are not attractive I will say "no thank you." Some of them can get pretty annoying in that you tip them once and on their next lap around the room, they are again asking you for a tip. It is your own fault, identifying yourself as a mark with a dollar.
Just say "no."
Best like that in our own underground clubs, best to just take them as they come.
:) :) :)
SJG
Thank you for the sound advice.
@San Jose
I appreciate your theoretical input. I am hoping to hear from others who interact with the bar girls in the zone.
A simple "No thank you" usually suffices, if they ask again or why, I simply repeat myself "no thank you"
I only grope tip BGs I want to grope tip, and I like to select the BGs I buy fichas for (I usually move on when they walk up to me or a mesero brings them over).
It is a touchy situation.
But just for the sake of the female esprit de corps, I have found in local underground clubs that if the girl is being extremely forward, best just to show by example that if a girl is that forward, then she gets what she wants.
SJG
There may be 100 BGs working that shift and she probably does not even know 10% of them there.
I doubt a BG would remember a PL the next day, unless you spent a decent amount of time and MONEY on them.
Its still a negative vibe situation which it is better to avoid if possible.
SJG
Don’t worry about offending them or ruining your chances for a later hook-up. There’s so many other options.
I try not to stay in one spot too long. I like to move around freely in the club to see what’s happening at various stages.
I only like tipping stage girls. They’re the ones working and putting on a show and they deserve it a hell of a lot more than someone who’s just walking around and essentially panhandling.
SJG
1. I just got here
2. I'm in no hurry
She gave me a big smile, kiss on the cheek and kept working the room.
Do not worry about offending a BG by saying "no thank you," just be polite.
Have fun.
They ways they present themselves as civvies are not ever really all that they are.
But the ways that they present themselves for P4P are not ever really all that they are either.
To appreciate them you have to let some kind of a relationship develop. So best is to select the one you want, the one you expect to be waking up in the mornings with regularly.
SJG
If she did it as some have posted and got both hands on my head and started ramming her tongue into my mouth, and then demanded either fisha or arriba, if I did not want to go arriba with her, I would try to avoid the kissing. But if I could not avoid it, I think I would just tell her I was waiting for someone and hand her some money ($20 ?).
But if she really did it that way, I think also that for the female esprit de corps, I would be inclined to find it in my heart to give her what she wants, so it would be just like I had selected and approached her, so fisha, +plus front room money and makeout session, + arriba, + trying to steer it to TLN.
SJG
SJG
Then the gorgeous chica will be in your own bed.
Countryman, did this Frances do anything wrong, anything to rate her being considered a possible Shark or ROB?
https://www.tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=…
Thanks,
SJG
Time of the Season
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfw20G0n…
Ficha to feel her out. The fact she didnt finish her ficha means one thing. She will take alot to get her to warm up. Chicas only make a few pesos off a ficha. Their real money is arriba and tips. So i understand but unless you really like her best to let her move on. Way to many pretty chicas. Now she should have finished her ficha. But i already have decided i want them before i sit down with a chica. But if she couldnt stay with me for a ficha i would have moved on. 9 times out of 10 bad arriba
I just don't think any reason to post a "PSA", saying that she is a potential Shark or ROB.
She might be new, not even having the proper kind of shoes.
If Cristobal is showing no interest, and no money, then she was best to move on.
If Cristobal wanted to make something happen with her, then he could have treated her totally different.
SJG
B52's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNwC0sp-…
And ROB is even more serious.
I've always said that it is best to select and approach the one you want. That way there is no ambiguity, and even in a P4P venue, that sill carries a lot of weight with the ladies.
SJG