Everyone has their own value metrics. Would I pay that much to a single girl for a single night ? I don't think so. But if the memory of the occasion could be replayed in your mind for some time, maybe it could be worth that to you. Also depends on what your income is. If you are spending future retirement savings for that night, then that's stupid. If that is a small part of your monthly income, then go for it.
I'd rather fuck 10 7s than one 10, or six 10s that dont over value themselves that much. I'd think if she wants that much, she isnt going to try as hard as others cause she knows it's not going to be a regular thing.
3K??!!! What the ever living fuck?! Is this in pesos?
Well damn man, if you're considering it that means you have $3000 to spend with no problem so if it's worth it to you, what's stopping you? Clearly the advice you got in the other thread doesn't mean much. Hearing she quoted you that much probably only confirms the suspicions of her playing you. Usually an absurd number like that is thrown out to discourage a custie from anymore OTC talk, especially if she's not willing to negotiate.
Just know that if you go throw with it you'll be paying way more than what other girls normally charge for an overnighter. Or so I hear. I've never had an OTC or a P4P all nighter in this country. But being on this forum for a few years I've heard the rates that others say they are quoted. Nothing was that high. Unless they weren't honest and you are.
I think you'll go through it no matter what we say. This girl seems to have you in a trance, wrapped around her finger. All I know is, for $3K it better be a GFE for real.
Wow $3000. Must be one hot call girl or stripper. If I heard a number like that, I'd think someone was trying to get rid of me. However I'm not going around asking to fuck for money. I remember when Platinum Plus was open in western SC I would skip some tens that wanted $50 for lap dances and just get the regular two for 30 or two for 20 deal I arranged with my favorites who were 8's or 9's. Who knows some guy who didn't see them everyday might think they were 10's as well. They told me they charged other people higher prices for lap dances. They were consistent with their lap dance prices with me even when one stripper who claimed she knew me kept asking to sleep with me, She seemed a bit obsessive about it all. If not in a strip club, more like a stalker. She knew stuff though that no other stripper knew. I was well stalked. I only saw her for a year. She lived almost 200 miles away. Crazy girl kept driving 95mph she said until the police started arresting her.
I would only pay that if it was Scarlett Johansson. Most i've paid is $400 and that was all night with a hot columbian in NJ. Most most of the OTC ladies in Miami want $1000. And that's not all night. So i tell them bye bye. But like other's have written. Its up to your threshold of pain. Maybe you treat yourself for your 40th or 50th bday. But make sure you get what you want !!
It's all relative, but top shelf talent in Vegas is known to cost that for extended periods of time. Personally I'd laugh, but if it's something you need crossed off your bucket list...
but only for a 3-day weekend GFE experience where I had at least one black tie function or banquet to attend. Also, she would need to be the real deal lady in the street/freak between the sheets; able to dazzle my colleagues while making small talk and blow my mind in bed. Oh, and all her expenses are included in that $3K. Only then, would I consider it.
To the OP, that is not her GPS quoting that price. That was her telling you "no way, not ever."
Yes same girl. I heard from others that only a few girls from this club will do as it is pretty forbidden and that $2k-$3k is pretty standard. I mean, a 1/2 hour full nude vip dance is $500 at this club, so I don’t think this is out of the realm of reality.
$2k - $3k is what a lot of girls in Vegas will ask tourists. That same girl will settle for an expensive dinner and getting her lashes done if you tell her you live in Vegas...Just dinner and some weed if she likes you.
Personally, I think no hooker is worth that money. I wouldn't be able to enjoy it knowing how much I paid for it...and if she does make it a GFE then knowing its all an act.... If you want to pay, pay less. $500 in VIP means she's getting like $350 of that at most probably, so the number is highly inflated.
I'd never pay more than a few hundred, and I don't want to pay that either. I have the cash - that isn't the point - the point is to make good decisions. $200-$300 max most of the time. $3,000 should get you at least 10 girls.
Assuming we're not being trolled, I do believe her quote was sincere based on what he described in the other other thread - i.e. he's completely clueless and being lead around by a leach like a toy dog by this stripper.
Only 2 kinds of people pay that kinda cash - wealthy people for whom $3k is pocket-change and they can afford to do it everyday, or clueless chumps ripe for the rip off.
No Portland girl that strips for a living is worth that.
A billionaire, Bob Kraft, doesn't pay $3k for his P4P at his favorite AMPs, I know it's a not a like comparison but I doubt he pays $3k for OTC either.
"... I heard from others that only a few girls from this club will do as it is pretty forbidden and that $2k-$3k is pretty standard ..."
Jeez - you are green and gullible AF - you think the club has private investigators following the girls around to see if they are fucking customers in their free time outside the club - she already saw you outside the club didn't she - no club likes custies spending $$$ on thei dancers outside the club instead of in their club - but that's not something they can control.
Again - your comments are so out there it's as if your baiting us.
I realize it could be genuine, but the pattern of: just signed up and did two reviews on the same day, then started threads that are obvious push-button topics for us... is sometimes a little suspicious
I agree with @Papi that this sounds like a troll, but sometimes reality is estranger than fiction, so I will play along and answer your questions:
$3k for OTC night with hot chick?
It depends on a lot of factors, location, her background, your fixation that “no other will do but her, because she is the only one in the history of the universe”, some celebrities/athletes pay 20k and more because is pocket change for them.
Is this insane?
Yes, for the 99% for the 1% it doesn’t matter
Worth it?
Yes, for the 1% not for the 99%
Based on your post and indecisive attitude, I can tell she is way out of your league. And someone in her or above of her league at the time got her pregnant and is the Baby Daddy.
My opinion is; if you go ahead with this you will get buyers remorse, because based on the fact that you are not remotely in her league she won’t perform because there is no incentive of future visits or more money.
You can forget about “the sex will be the best of my life, I can die happy just after”.
A Portland 10 is about an 8 in Los Angeles and major markets, so you will be overpaying if you do it, and the service will be mediocre at best.
I know it is difficult sometimes to accept the reality of this but we have been raised to believe that we deserve everything just because we are number one. We all can’t be number one.
Just think about your situation this way:
“A boy proposed to a girl, She rejected him. He was not sad. His friends asked him why he didn’t feel sad? The boy responded: Why should I be sad? I lost someone who didn’t love me. She lost someone who loved her.”
And use the advice from Scarface:
“In this country, you gotta make the money first. Then when you get the money, you get the power. Then when you get the power, then you get the women.” - Tony Montana
Thing is if you pay, she'll respect you even less than she does now.
You won't get anything out of this. You already have feelings for her, paying her that much just to fuck her when there's nothing between you will just lead to even more heart ache for you.
Sounds high but I'm not independently wealthy nor am I working at the moment. I'd rather beat off at home and use the 3k for a few nights at my favorite strip club getting a bunch of $20 dances and drinking.
I assure you I’m not a troll, Im inexperienced, got sucked into liking a stripper and looked for advice and came across this site. Club is Casa Diablo in Portland. I know I’m being an idiot and need to forget about this girl, but there is something inside me that can’t stop. I think I’ve always had this dream of having porn star sex with a super hot chick at least once in my life and thought maybe I was going to pull it off with this chick. But now I’ve gotten into her and a little emotionally attached. Realizing I’m not someone who can separate sex from getting attached to someone. I’ve just been pretty lonely and horny recently and got more into strip clubs than I have before, plus have some money to spend at this point in life. Honestly, should probably take long break from clubs and get my head straight. Think they fucked with my head and made it hard for me to separate fantasy world from real life. Yeah, she is probably out of my league, I’m not some big baller that can throw down for penthouse suites and trips. And that’s actually kind of a hard thing to realize, wish I was.
Oh for the love of God, Trussell, is this the same stripper you've been "dating"? No definitely not worth it by any means. With all the before work dinners, VIPs room dances and after work drinks she should be fucking you for free by now or giving you a HJ in a back alley before the drinks. If she's really that hot like VS model hot high chances are that she can't fuck worth anywhere near $3k worth let alone a few hundred. Look at porn. The hottest women are usually just a few notches warmer than a corpse. Some guys like that. Only they know why. The real freaks are the 5-8s they will show you a good time for less, make you feel like you accomplished something and some will even share a pizza with you.
Also, stop putting her on a pedestal. Her being attractive by your standards doesn't mean she's used to some lavish lifestyle.... or like she's accomplished in life. She's a single mom who is a hooker...take it for what it is.
For her, it is the "I Don't Really Want To Do This Price." however, if you're crazy enough to cough it up, she just might be able to force herself to go through with it.
For you, this is the "I'm Going to Hate Myself 5 Seconds After It's Over" price. You'll understand what I mean 5 seconds after you cum into the condom she will inevitably make you wear while she lays there like a dead fish, when your head clears and what just happened comes crashing home. ;)
The clubs are not the issue - it's your execution - and not currently getting laid which will def affect your thinking and execution - you need to get laid for a reasonable price so you can recalibrate your hard-up brain.
Getting laid is a *need* not a luxury for the avg guy especially if under let's say 45 ys/o - sex is a *need* and why your body and mind craves it like it craves food/water/sleep when it needs it - in a "perfect world" we'd all have hot significant others that would be constantly fucking us - but obviously life isn't perfect and going sexless bc one doesn't "wanna pay for it" seems to do more harm than good bc one is going w/o something they *need* (especially as a young male) - reality is many guys are going w/o the amount/type of sex they need/crave at one level or another.
Portland is not the place for P4P extras especially if you don't know what you're doing - my prescription would be for you to take a little vacation to Tijuana and visit club Hong Kong so you can get your head out of your ass (it's Disneyland for adults):
You can find porn stars who you fuck for less than 3k.
If you are lonely and horny, there are escorts, extras club, etc where you can have a good time for a lot less and then you build your game and confidence from the experience.
Portland has a shit ton of clubs, more per capita than just baout any city in the country. The OP should not have to leave Portland to find a better deal elsewhere.
^ true - but seems ITC extras as an easier way of getting some experience (and relief so you can think straight), are minimal to non-existent (AFAIK) - OTC is often harder to pull, and harder to pull successfully w/o getting ripped, for the inexperienced SCer (and in general)
“I think I’ve always had this dream of having porn star sex with a super hot chick at least once in my life and thought maybe I was going to pull it off with this chick.”
The porn movies are complete fantasy, even Pornstars admit the sex is not good, a lot of editing takes place, bloopers, girls cry sometimes when they get “emotional” and have to be convinced to continue or not be paid, some people walk out of scenes because change their mind in the middle of the scene etc etc etc.
A small percentage of woman Porstars believe they like sex and enjoy being degraded and abused. And even less really are satisfied with their career choice, some European Pornstar are more believable, but Americans Pornstars have to deal with the mind games they were raised with in our puritanical base society and have GPS, and don’t enjoy their work.
The closest you can get to having porn star sex is if you become a male pornstar yourself and perform, so you can see the real deal.
Remember movies and tv shows are fantasy make believe, there are no dragons in real life and porn movies are just fantasy that causes us to have unrealistic expectations about sex, a recipe for frustration and unhappiness, with the goal that we continue spending and consuming all kinds of unnecessary things in the pursuit of happiness.
I know there is hope, I was lucky enough to have the sex experience of my life with a nice beautiful Russian escort in Beverly Hills. You can see the article I wrote here:
I have also have been lucky enough to find a nice beautiful stripper that was new to the industry and we had chemistry in the club and we ended up meeting OTC every other weekend and get an nice hotel room and had GFE kind of sex we massage each other, play until she orgasmed a couple of times and then It would be my turn, sometimes she would fall asleep with her head in my chest and spend the night. She is my ATF until now, with every cent and moment spent with her. But was reasonable for Los Angeles and we had chemistry, and I believe we both walked away from the experience feeling it was a win win and a fair deal for the two of us. She sent me a last goodbye text thanking me.
What I learned from my experiences was:
“The amount of good luck coming your way depends on your willingness to act.”
Papi Chulo is right. There are a ton of strip clubs in Portland, but extras are pretty rare. I’ve tried and never gotten any. If you touch a little pussy or your zipper comes down, there is a bouncer threatening to kick you out within 30 seconds. And if you leave the few high quality clubs, they get pretty seedy/shady, with strung out chicks, pimps, and shootings. Portland has super lax rules when it comes to clubs, tons of two way touching, full nude with alcohol, live sex shows on stage. I would actually say lap dances in Portland are awesome, within the rules. But most draw the line at extras. Ive asked other girls for otc, mostly just asking to go out for dinner or something, and always been told they would never do that. Which is why I thought had a chance with this chick. Yes, I put her on a pedestal, but I’ve seen her mentioned in quite a few of the reviews of the club on this site, so I know I’m not alone. She’s got this pretty irrestible combination of personality, hot body, super cute, and skilled dancer. But I thinks she turning me into a PL. I fully admit my game is not strong. I’ve thought about just taking a trip to Reno and going to legal brothels nearby. I think trying to hook up With strippers or get p4p in Portland is just going to drain my wallet and fuck with my head, as it clearly already has. I even tricked myself into thinking I could date this chick. i should probably just do tinder, but maybe a little trip to get laid for sure would be good for me.
Here are some financial parameters where spending $3K and not really giving a shit about it : Said transaction should be 10% or less of your monthly take home salary, or no more than the interest/dividend income. More specifically, how many of these conditions apply to you-- 1) Is your monthly take home salary/commision/overtime $30K or greater ? 2) Do you own $1.1M or more in Coca-Cola (KO) stock ? 3) Do you own $1.5M or more in 10 yr treasury bonds ?
If none of these apply to you, you're a dumbshit for even thinking about paying well above market value for something.
OP if you want to get laid so bad you’d even consider paying 3grand what is rong with you that it’s an idea under consideration. I mean it really, I could understand maybe if you’re some super rich successful guy with bundles of money where it doesn’t mean much to you but if that were the case you wouldn’t come here on a website full of mongers and club hounds asking questions, you’d just do what you want and not think twice. Do what you want but don’t waste our time on stupid shit.
Didn’t SirLapdanceALot say that a lot of dancers are also escorts...including one of his own favorite dancers? I believe he said they keep the two separate, but there is some overlap for the right customer who have been “screened”
That being said, to better your chances, I’d recommend deviating from Casa Diablo, Club Rogue, or any other downtown club.
First off, stop asking them out for dinner FFS. If you make an offer after getting to know a girl, make it clear that you're talking about an hour for sex in your hotel room.
Second, if you need to start at the B clubs to get some experience under your belt and build some confidence, then away you should go.
A handful of years back I had an OTC offer accepted on my very first night in Portland. I ended up bagging out because I got too drunk, but I had a good feeling about it. With so many freakin' clubs - over 40 just in the city proper - with so many dancers trying to earn a living in a city with half the population of Dallas, opportunities have to abound. Take that $3k and tease it out over a month in a few clubs, with some light LD spending combined with OTC offers in the $300-400 range and eventually you'll start seeing a payoff. Go on slow nights early in the week to improve your odds further.
Or if that is too much work, just buy time with escorts.
Or of course you can give her $3k and hate yourself for it literally seconds after you blow your load, which I'm guessing will be after your third pump. ;)
Since we can’t see discussions anymore without logging in, it appears that the Douchebag must have created another alias account so he can follow my posts, even though he blocked me. https://www.tuscl.net/app/discussion.php… Does the pussiness of this guy know no limits?
OTC, and strip clubbing in general, is def more of an art than a science - in bizarro-world it takes some experience to know when you're getting fair-value, and know how to get fair-value, and recognize when you're being hustled - for the most part the clubs and dancers have their best interest in mind, not the custy's (with rare exceptions they are not your friends, you're only as good as your $$$) - the clubs' and dancers' motivation is for you to leave the club with empty-pockets, not that you got your money's worth (that's your problem) - i.e. when dealing with strippers you are your best, if not only, advocate, it's up to the custy to know what he's doing.
Most dancers do not enjoy what they do even though they do a great job of not showing it - they are there just to make as much $$$, and as fast, as possible - and often times this means anipulating and ripping of custies.
As has been posted, don't put any if these girls on a pedestal nor get infatuated with them, that is how many guys get taken and get taken big.
Also - probably not a good idea to do, and pay for, an overnighter with a chick you've never been with - for all you know she may say that's all you get after you've nutted once - best to do an hour or 2 session vs paying a larger amount for a whole night where she may not wanna be there all that time
Remember - some girls will quote a very high price rather than saying no.
I wouldn’t pay that price. But, in wealthy city, I’m guessing high end whores might get that amount for an evening partying with wealthy investment bankers.
I believe Jim Norton did a bit regarding high priced whores - “$3000? She’s really pretty? For that price, can I cut her head off and keep it?”
Caveat: I'm not an experienced OTC guy... but not having experience with something has never stopped me from giving my opinion. Hell, being completely ignorant in a subject matter has never stopped me.
That being said, I would think that overnights are no longer about just paying for sex. It seems that feelings are getting involved when you want to spend that kind of time with her. To me, that would be a dangerous sign.
"Nevada brothels are a ripoff and the girls not that good-looking - those brothels mostly get by due to clueless guys."
Spot on, Papi. I've long thought this. Saw an HBO special on them, probably around 20 years ago, and was shocked that even back then they were quoting prices upwards of $1,500 or more and the ladies were mostly average looking, maybe a tad better. Not surprisingly, the clients they interviewed were gomers, probably from backwoods Arkansas and likely blowing their life savings on that shit. This is where it helps to have Internet access so you can be educated on these things.
And 3K for any woman is absurd. Unless it's Ariana Grande, them I'm all in.
@Flag, Shit, $3,000 can get you 20 arribas when adding in the cost of fichas, food, drink, and hotel. With "Goddesses" no less, like real life deities! Granted they don't understand much English, but that's probably a plus when dealing with truck drivers from the backwoods of Kentucky. ;)
E-spark- Making $30K/mo ($360K/yr) would just about put one in the top 1%. CLEARING $30K/mo (as I stated in prior post) would definitely put one in the top 1%.
Papi's right, don't even hint about overnight with a stranger, you need to know about them before making that type of financial commitment.
Most of my appointments are with company I only want to spend with an hour or two, though I do have one who I really enjoy her company so we will do the overnight but at first that was a two hour stay appointment.
@minnow in order to be in the top % you need to have cleared a minimum $491,000 in 2015, and that wouldn't place you in the top 1% every place, in Cali or NYC you would need over $847,000 annually , jus sayin ; )
I have done that however at the time... 1. I did not know it was a transaction, I thought I was helping out a friend 2. She was a total fucking lying cunt of a mexican street whore that I sincerely hope gets hit by a fucking bus. He kids would be better off in the foster system than with that bitch.
3. I will NEVER do that shit again 4. If I ever consider doing that again I will personally hand deliver the money to SJG to do with as he pleases
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Well damn man, if you're considering it that means you have $3000 to spend with no problem so if it's worth it to you, what's stopping you? Clearly the advice you got in the other thread doesn't mean much. Hearing she quoted you that much probably only confirms the suspicions of her playing you. Usually an absurd number like that is thrown out to discourage a custie from anymore OTC talk, especially if she's not willing to negotiate.
Just know that if you go throw with it you'll be paying way more than what other girls normally charge for an overnighter. Or so I hear. I've never had an OTC or a P4P all nighter in this country. But being on this forum for a few years I've heard the rates that others say they are quoted. Nothing was that high. Unless they weren't honest and you are.
I think you'll go through it no matter what we say. This girl seems to have you in a trance, wrapped around her finger. All I know is, for $3K it better be a GFE for real.
Most most of the OTC ladies in Miami want $1000. And that's not all night. So i tell them bye bye. But like other's have written. Its up to your threshold of pain. Maybe you treat yourself for your 40th or 50th bday. But make sure you get what you want !!
but only for a 3-day weekend GFE experience where I had at least one black tie function or banquet to attend. Also, she would need to be the real deal lady in the street/freak between the sheets; able to dazzle my colleagues while making small talk and blow my mind in bed. Oh, and all her expenses are included in that $3K. Only then, would I consider it.
To the OP, that is not her GPS quoting that price. That was her telling you "no way, not ever."
In the bizzaro world of P4P it's not usually the case.
Even if you could easily afford it, at that price it seems like a greater chance of disappointment rather than the best time of your life.
Personally, I think no hooker is worth that money. I wouldn't be able to enjoy it knowing how much I paid for it...and if she does make it a GFE then knowing its all an act.... If you want to pay, pay less. $500 in VIP means she's getting like $350 of that at most probably, so the number is highly inflated.
Only 2 kinds of people pay that kinda cash - wealthy people for whom $3k is pocket-change and they can afford to do it everyday, or clueless chumps ripe for the rip off.
No Portland girl that strips for a living is worth that.
Jeez - you are green and gullible AF - you think the club has private investigators following the girls around to see if they are fucking customers in their free time outside the club - she already saw you outside the club didn't she - no club likes custies spending $$$ on thei dancers outside the club instead of in their club - but that's not something they can control.
Again - your comments are so out there it's as if your baiting us.
I realize it could be genuine, but the pattern of: just signed up and did two reviews on the same day, then started threads that are obvious push-button topics for us... is sometimes a little suspicious
I agree with @Papi that this sounds like a troll, but sometimes reality is estranger than fiction, so I will play along and answer your questions:
$3k for OTC night with hot chick?
It depends on a lot of factors, location, her background, your fixation that “no other will do but her, because she is the only one in the history of the universe”, some celebrities/athletes pay 20k and more because is pocket change for them.
Is this insane?
Yes, for the 99% for the 1% it doesn’t matter
Worth it?
Yes, for the 1% not for the 99%
Based on your post and indecisive attitude, I can tell she is way out of your league. And someone in her or above of her league at the time got her pregnant and is the Baby Daddy.
My opinion is; if you go ahead with this you will get buyers remorse, because based on the fact that you are not remotely in her league she won’t perform because there is no incentive of future visits or more money.
You can forget about “the sex will be the best of my life, I can die happy just after”.
A Portland 10 is about an 8 in Los Angeles and major markets, so you will be overpaying if you do it, and the service will be mediocre at best.
I know it is difficult sometimes to accept the reality of this but we have been raised to believe that we deserve everything just because we are number one. We all can’t be number one.
Just think about your situation this way:
“A boy proposed to a girl,
She rejected him.
He was not sad.
His friends asked him why he didn’t feel sad?
The boy responded:
Why should I be sad?
I lost someone who didn’t love me.
She lost someone who loved her.”
And use the advice from Scarface:
“In this country, you gotta make the money first. Then when you get the money, you get the power. Then when you get the power, then you get the women.” - Tony Montana
Don't do it....
Thing is if you pay, she'll respect you even less than she does now.
You won't get anything out of this. You already have feelings for her, paying her that much just to fuck her when there's nothing between you will just lead to even more heart ache for you.
Also, stop putting her on a pedestal. Her being attractive by your standards doesn't mean she's used to some lavish lifestyle.... or like she's accomplished in life. She's a single mom who is a hooker...take it for what it is.
For her, it is the "I Don't Really Want To Do This Price." however, if you're crazy enough to cough it up, she just might be able to force herself to go through with it.
For you, this is the "I'm Going to Hate Myself 5 Seconds After It's Over" price. You'll understand what I mean 5 seconds after you cum into the condom she will inevitably make you wear while she lays there like a dead fish, when your head clears and what just happened comes crashing home. ;)
Getting laid is a *need* not a luxury for the avg guy especially if under let's say 45 ys/o - sex is a *need* and why your body and mind craves it like it craves food/water/sleep when it needs it - in a "perfect world" we'd all have hot significant others that would be constantly fucking us - but obviously life isn't perfect and going sexless bc one doesn't "wanna pay for it" seems to do more harm than good bc one is going w/o something they *need* (especially as a young male) - reality is many guys are going w/o the amount/type of sex they need/crave at one level or another.
Portland is not the place for P4P extras especially if you don't know what you're doing - my prescription would be for you to take a little vacation to Tijuana and visit club Hong Kong so you can get your head out of your ass (it's Disneyland for adults):
https://www.tuscl.net/app/listing.php?id…
Or Allure in Toronto:
https://www.tuscl.net/app/listing.php?id…
If you are lonely and horny, there are escorts, extras club, etc where you can have a good time for a lot less and then you build your game and confidence from the experience.
You have very unrealistic expectations:
“I think I’ve always had this dream of having porn star sex with a super hot chick at least once in my life and thought maybe I was going to pull it off with this chick.”
The porn movies are complete fantasy, even Pornstars admit the sex is not good, a lot of editing takes place, bloopers, girls cry sometimes when they get “emotional” and have to be convinced to continue or not be paid, some people walk out of scenes because change their mind in the middle of the scene etc etc etc.
A small percentage of woman Porstars believe they like sex and enjoy being degraded and abused. And even less really are satisfied with their career choice, some European Pornstar are more believable, but Americans Pornstars have to deal with the mind games they were raised with in our puritanical base society and have GPS, and don’t enjoy their work.
The closest you can get to having porn star sex is if you become a male pornstar yourself and perform, so you can see the real deal.
Remember movies and tv shows are fantasy make believe, there are no dragons in real life and porn movies are just fantasy that causes us to have unrealistic expectations about sex, a recipe for frustration and unhappiness, with the goal that we continue spending and consuming all kinds of unnecessary things in the pursuit of happiness.
I know there is hope, I was lucky enough to have the sex experience of my life with a nice beautiful Russian escort in Beverly Hills. You can see the article I wrote here:
https://www.tuscl.net/article.php5?id=50…
I have also have been lucky enough to find a nice beautiful stripper that was new to the industry and we had chemistry in the club and we ended up meeting OTC every other weekend and get an nice hotel room and had GFE kind of sex we massage each other, play until she orgasmed a couple of times and then It would be my turn, sometimes she would fall asleep with her head in my chest and spend the night. She is my ATF until now, with every cent and moment spent with her. But was reasonable for Los Angeles and we had chemistry, and I believe we both walked away from the experience feeling it was a win win and a fair deal for the two of us. She sent me a last goodbye text thanking me.
What I learned from my experiences was:
“The amount of good luck coming your way depends on your willingness to act.”
I’ve thought about just taking a trip to Reno and going to legal brothels nearby. I think trying to hook up
With strippers or get p4p in Portland is just going to drain my wallet and fuck with my head, as it clearly already has. I even tricked myself into thinking I could date this chick. i should probably just do tinder, but maybe a little trip to get laid for sure would be good for me.
1) Is your monthly take home salary/commision/overtime $30K or greater ?
2) Do you own $1.1M or more in Coca-Cola (KO) stock ?
3) Do you own $1.5M or more in 10 yr treasury bonds ?
If none of these apply to you, you're a dumbshit for even thinking about paying well above market value for something.
That being said, to better your chances, I’d recommend deviating from Casa Diablo, Club Rogue, or any other downtown club.
First off, stop asking them out for dinner FFS. If you make an offer after getting to know a girl, make it clear that you're talking about an hour for sex in your hotel room.
Second, if you need to start at the B clubs to get some experience under your belt and build some confidence, then away you should go.
A handful of years back I had an OTC offer accepted on my very first night in Portland. I ended up bagging out because I got too drunk, but I had a good feeling about it. With so many freakin' clubs - over 40 just in the city proper - with so many dancers trying to earn a living in a city with half the population of Dallas, opportunities have to abound. Take that $3k and tease it out over a month in a few clubs, with some light LD spending combined with OTC offers in the $300-400 range and eventually you'll start seeing a payoff. Go on slow nights early in the week to improve your odds further.
Or if that is too much work, just buy time with escorts.
Or of course you can give her $3k and hate yourself for it literally seconds after you blow your load, which I'm guessing will be after your third pump. ;)
It’s not worth it...
With $3,000 you can rent a College Sugar Baby who is probably a 9 OR 10 for the whole month with you both fucking each other Every Weekend
Alternatively you can rent a IG Model OR Video Vixen for the whole weekend for $3000...
You can also head to Atlanta & visit follies....
With about $150 to $250 you should be able to get your dick wet...
I wouldn’t pay $3,000 for an overnight with a stripper...
I wouldn’t pay $3,000 for an overnight with a porn star either...
It’s definitely not worth it...
Worst comes to worst head across the Border to Tijuana...
You should be able to afford three chicas all at once & have a foursome...
Whatever you do, don’t make any stupid choices you will regret later...
$3,000 is definitely a lot of money to most American families...
I believe only about 10% of Americans make at least $3,000/month...
Be wise...
Less than 10% of Americans make at least $36,000 per year?
Sorry, I wanted to type $30,000/Month
You should only spend spend such amount on sex if you make at least $30,000/Month...
Most dancers do not enjoy what they do even though they do a great job of not showing it - they are there just to make as much $$$, and as fast, as possible - and often times this means anipulating and ripping of custies.
As has been posted, don't put any if these girls on a pedestal nor get infatuated with them, that is how many guys get taken and get taken big.
I wouldn’t pay that price. But, in wealthy city, I’m guessing high end whores might get that amount for an evening partying with wealthy investment bankers.
I believe Jim Norton did a bit regarding high priced whores - “$3000? She’s really pretty? For that price, can I cut her head off and keep it?”
but not having experience with something has never stopped me from giving my opinion. Hell, being completely ignorant in a subject matter has never stopped me.
That being said, I would think that overnights are no longer about just paying for sex. It seems that feelings are getting involved when you want to spend that kind of time with her. To me, that would be a dangerous sign.
Spot on, Papi. I've long thought this. Saw an HBO special on them, probably around 20 years ago, and was shocked that even back then they were quoting prices upwards of $1,500 or more and the ladies were mostly average looking, maybe a tad better. Not surprisingly, the clients they interviewed were gomers, probably from backwoods Arkansas and likely blowing their life savings on that shit. This is where it helps to have Internet access so you can be educated on these things.
And 3K for any woman is absurd. Unless it's Ariana Grande, them I'm all in.
Or truck drivers, probably from backwoods Kentucky.
;-)
Most of my appointments are with company I only want to spend with an hour or two, though I do have one who I really enjoy her company so we will do the overnight but at first that was a two hour stay appointment.
1. I did not know it was a transaction, I thought I was helping out a friend
2. She was a total fucking lying cunt of a mexican street whore that I sincerely hope gets hit by a fucking bus. He kids would be better off in the foster system than with that bitch.
3. I will NEVER do that shit again
4. If I ever consider doing that again I will personally hand deliver the money to SJG to do with as he pleases
SJG