OT: An alternative to the Waifu Pillows sex partners;,life size realistic silico
CJKent (Banned)
“The more a person needs to be right, the less certain he is...”
We are living in very interesting times for the human species.
Some websites with “nice looking” dolls
https://myrealdolls.com/?gclid=EAIaIQobC…
https://racymedolls.com
An article about the trend:
https://www.siliconwives.com/blogs/news/…
“Sex Dolls Provide a Safe And Respectful Alternative”
“The Future of Sex Dolls is Here And it is Amazing”
I don’t think fold are a direct competition to Strip Clubs now but who knows if in the future they can be almost human like in the science fiction movies.
I like the “doll” in the movie Cherry 2000 (1987 starring Melanie Griffith) the doll/robot was played by Pamela Gidley, but I wouldn’t kick Melanie off the bed for any reason, the way she looked in the movie.
But none of them are Marilyn Monroe, forever the good standard for woman’s beauty and sex appeal.
Some websites with “nice looking” dolls
https://myrealdolls.com/?gclid=EAIaIQobC…
https://racymedolls.com
An article about the trend:
https://www.siliconwives.com/blogs/news/…
“Sex Dolls Provide a Safe And Respectful Alternative”
“The Future of Sex Dolls is Here And it is Amazing”
I don’t think fold are a direct competition to Strip Clubs now but who knows if in the future they can be almost human like in the science fiction movies.
I like the “doll” in the movie Cherry 2000 (1987 starring Melanie Griffith) the doll/robot was played by Pamela Gidley, but I wouldn’t kick Melanie off the bed for any reason, the way she looked in the movie.
But none of them are Marilyn Monroe, forever the good standard for woman’s beauty and sex appeal.
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Only someone who is truly super rich can afford to see prostitutes that much. Prostitution is pretty much always meant to be supplementary to whatever you have going on, its too expensive to use as a replacement. Which means that if you can't seduce civie girls, you're pretty much fucked. Waifu pillows and sex dolls are great because they can fill in for that and you can hire prostitutes as supplementary.
The way I see it though, waifu pillows and sex dolls are a great alternative to anybody who either cannot or doesn't want to have a civie sex life.
The can make them per your request and specifications. For example:
The Anna Mae (anime) get it? By the makers of Realdoll
https://www.google.com/search?q=anime+re…
You confirm the fact that your brain, perception and imagination, is extremely active during sex, and that exciting mix of hormones is what gets you feeling good.
Some “experts” say that sex is so overwhelmingly exciting, pleasurable, and rewarding that our brains during orgasm look almost identical to a brain on heroin,
Down Syndrome Porn
Deformed guy with down syndrome saved his money for years to fuck a prostitute. Can't say it went very well, as the picked the most evil and frustrated bitch ever. Poor guy!
https://www.heavy-r.com/video/209024/Dow…
Personally I don't think that doll looks anything like a kawaii anime girl. Actually looks kind of frightening to me.
I am sure that if there is enough demand that will make them, however they will have to pay more if they are made to look exactly like a famous or popular anime character like sailor moon? Is she considered anime.
The same would go for making dolls like like celebrities, movie stars, famous people. I think that a couple of pornstars have made deals to have life size dolls that look like them and market their brand.
Are these more like your anime girls, sorry I am too old to follow all the different trends.
https://www.fullbodylovedoll.com/the-bes…
Like you said the dolls are supposed to be an addition to a healthy sex life.
https://image.dhgate.com/0x0s/f2-albu-g4…
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I think the dolls can be a good alternative for people if the civie sex world is unavailable or unappealing to them for whatever reason. It doesn't necessarily need to be supplementary. With prostitution though it kind of has to be supplementary because nobody can afford to really hire hookers enough to substitute a civie sex life unless you're retired and just have a lot of money that you feel like blowing through.
But you can use dolls and pillows as an addition to a civie sex life too. I've heard of some guys buying them because their wife rarely has any desire for sex anymore so this gives them an outlet. I do think the waifu pillows are more associated with teenagers and twenty somethings specifically though whereas the realdolls seem more popular with the 30+ crowd.
Fucking weirdos.
@FTS
Olivia especially is really hot.
They make them more like the anime face you show on the two pics of the small figures you post.
There is a website for doll “addicts”;
https://i0.wp.com/realdolladdict.com/wp-…
There is a whole industry and community about sex dolls!
I guess in a few year they will make them more and more like sex robots and more and more like if they are alive like in the science fiction movies.
SJG
I would consider anything done with a fembot or a pillow to be masturbation. Not criticizing that.
As far as a sex life, I would still say that that has to be with a real person. Masturbation does not count.
SJG
Police - Roxanne - 2008, really altered the phrasing for this performance. Phrasing has always been a big part of their sound.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lQlajFq…
I only like this heavily track overlaid studio recording of this song, not any of the live versions. Cause of the singer's style. And I don't so much like the other guys who usually sings this either.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anpjEN9K…
Suspicious Mind - Elvis Presley
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBmAPYkP…
Glenn Campbell, experience really shows, in my opinion. They have a four string bass player, but notice the guy who solos on the six string bass.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjzTNWWO…
Try a Little Tenderness
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnPMoAb4…
Lauryn Hill - Killing Me Softly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KpeCk6N…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4USer34…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-RBJNqd…
I'd Rather Go Blind
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZVQD9pi…
SJG
With a pillow, it is your own bodily responses, and your own fantasies. I am not saying not to do it. I just don't consider it to be real sex or a sex life.
SJG
To me this just seems like people trying to attach a social status boom to it and aren't willing to acknowledge any sex that doesn't result in a social status boom as "real sex." All the sensations of being with a real person are possible with a waifu pillow, they just are not as strong or powerful as it would be with a real person. But the fact is that there are sensations you can achieve with waifu pillow sex that you cannot have with your hand or a pocket pussy.
Sex with another person can be entirely private, no one else ever knows about it. It is not just one's own sensations, it is the sharing, communications, and the bonding. People will remember sex with another person. They will not remember masturbating with a pillow.
SJG
Police - Roxanne - 2008, really altered the phrasing for this performance. Phrasing has always been a big part of their sound.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lQlajFq…
I only like this heavily track overlaid studio recording of this song, not any of the live versions. Cause of the singer's style. And I don't so much like the other guys who usually sings this either.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anpjEN9K…
Suspicious Mind - Elvis Presley
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBmAPYkP…
Glenn Campbell, experience really shows, in my opinion. They have a four string bass player, but notice the guy who solos on the six string bass.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjzTNWWO…
Try a Little Tenderness
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnPMoAb4…
Lauryn Hill - Killing Me Softly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KpeCk6N…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4USer34…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-RBJNqd…
I'd Rather Go Blind
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZVQD9pi…
Plus there's some people who are exclusively attracted to inanimate objects. Some people for example think that certain cars are the hottest thing they've ever seen and they only want to have sex with cars. Are we going to say that those people are virgins?
I don't think anybody would forget about a time that they had an ongoing sexual relationship with a pillow. Lots of people forget about drunk one night stands that they've had though.
SJG
I remember reading a manga series on that subject in high school. A girl was caught in a love triangle between her bot and her friend.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absolute…
And even if this is the case, then why exactly does the presence of a real human somehow make it real? What if somebody enjoys having sex with a robot more than a person? What if all the same sensations are available from having sex with a waifu pillow or robot as with a human? The way I see it, the sensations present are the only thing that separates the two acts.
Have you seen The Tatami Galaxy?
There's one character in the show who's in love with a sex doll, and gives the doll to the protagonist to protect her while he's gone, but then the protagonist falls in love with the doll himself and tries to run off with the doll in the middle of the night and debates at one point whether or not he should have sex with her, and then the first guy ends up chasing after him.
Cause humans are very complicated and can be potentially dangerous as well. At first I was motivated out of sheer desperation but I'm starting to see a lot of real positives that could come out of this that I hadn't before like people getting to avoid the social politics that come along with needing sex so badly that you choose people who are bad for you. NiceSpice wants one too and she would have no trouble finding a guy who wants to have sex with her.
I think we will still have sex with each other and form romantic relationships, but I do see it as a positive going forward for humans to no longer be desperate to have sex with each other. It could be good for teenagers as well who are too worried about pregnancy and STDs to have sex.
No one will prefer sex with a non human. Sex is all about a human connection, and SJG is right. Otherwise its just some sort of overly complex masturbation
If that's the case, then a lot of human sex is "overly complex masturbation" because they're not having a connection, they're just fucking. Most guys with waifu pillows connect more deeply with their waifu pillow than a lot of drunk people are with each other.
@FLF
No see, what's funny to me is that you guys don't ever try to backup anything you say with real logic. You always give a vague kind of "you're wrong" to any concept that isn't familiar to you or falls into a conventional definition of looking at things. Whereas I'm always giving arguments, points, and evidence to support what I say or pointing out contradictions. I've already looked at every possible kink in my argument which is why none of these arguments impress me because I've already thought of it myself and ruled it out.
You say sex is about human connection: But lots of people just have sex for pleasure, the sensations it produces without having a real connection. This is counted as real sex.
You say it has to be with a human: But some people have sex with animals, and this is considered "sex," albeit very stigmatized sex.
You say it has to be something you remember: But lots of people don't remember drunk hookups that they've had. This is still considered "sex."
You say it has to be a mutual pleasure kind of thing, where two people consider each other's feelings: So what about sex where its obviously all about one person and the other's feelings are not taken into consideration at all? This is still considered "sex" by people.
If the idea is that artificial sex is not a "normal" way to have sex, well its going to be a normal way to have sex just one decade from now, will it suddenly be considered real sex in a decade? If so, how can you say it isn't real sex right now? In that case your argument falls apart because you're trying to say that objectively it cannot be considered real sex even though your definition of it is changing based on what has become normal or not.
Therefore, if all the same sensations are created and somebody can enjoy having sex with a doll or pillow as much or more than they might enjoy having sex with a human, then how does it not count as real sex?
In which case, you would both be wrong, because in reality, both of you are having sex, you are just choosing the type of sexual partner that is normal for your society and culture.
Is that all you got?
I've done 90% of the work for you, do the rest yourself.
@IceyLoco
I can't argue for objective quality regarding sex. To me making out with a girl is better than getting a blowjob. Most of this board disagrees. All I can argue is that you cannot exclude object sex from the umbrella of sex.
@NiceSpice
The Tatami Galaxy is really good. I finished the whole anime in one night.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tT1ALOw…
There's a huge difference between P4P and someone attracted to you.
Sex with and without condoms...
Making out feels great but again, its about her reactions...you wont get the same thing with a hooker or a girl who just wants to kiss random guys.
You need to try to experience authentic sex
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBfWKmRF…
I've humped a pillow
I've masturbated to unrealistic or unattainable daydreams
I've made love to one while dreaming of another (or two)
And I've made wonderful, connected love with mate of nearly 40 years.
Who cares?
If I had money and the horniness of youth, would I try humping a sex doll?
Eh, maybe. Would I tell an internet board? Maybe not.
But, whatever.
SJG
Bullshit, nothing you say is serious, you're a troll account. And not a very good one either. Entertaining to argue with but its not worth taking anything you say seriously.
@Icey
That guy is a public prankster.
@SJG
I didn't think you were saying masturbation is wrong. I'm objecting to you referring to waifu pillow sex as masturbation.
SJG
Also.... I know IceyLoco and others don't mind fucking a fat ass, but for me personally, I wouldn't fuck a fat bitch even if you paid me $100. I don't even think my dick would get hard. So... if the average BMI of American women continues to rise, then I just won't be sexually attracted to 99%+ of women.
(as an aside, I actually calculated a few weeks ago the percentage of American women that I would find attractive based on what body type BMI I am attracted to, and the distribution of BMI in the United States. I think the number was <1%)
Animals are not human beings either @SJG.
@FTS
Yeah I've read about that theory too. There's actually a study that pretty much confirmed it, not to the extent of those numbers but they said its more like 50-60% of women are competing for the top 20% of guys. On Tinder specifically, it literally is 80% going for the top 20%. I'm like you in that I can't fuck a fat girl, my dick just wouldn't get hard. I don't even like the "thick" look or fat asses or any of that.
But I still say that sex with pillows, dolls, or robots is masturbation. Not discouraging it, just saying that it is not really sex.
SJG
Meeting girls in person is the best way... do it at the grocery store, your apartments, street, whatever.
All the better in places where girls dress sexy. Too few such places in my opinion.
SJG
For one thing, usually immediate sex will not be happening. Usually she has brought her own car. And then alcohol and driving don't mix.
Shopping malls can be good.
Instant sex venues, car free uptopias, these are the best in my opinion. I feel that this is why TJ works so well.
(seriously though... do you really think any individual person is entirely "normal?")
Are you going to try and say that corpse sex is "real" and waifu pillow sex isn't? It also sounds like you're saying bestiality is "real" and waifu pillow sex isn't. How can you say that its not real to have a perfectly healthy sexual relationship with a waifu pillow but that bestiality and necrophilia is real when there are actual negative consequences to those behaviors while waifu pillow sex doesn't hurt anybody?
Artificial sex is the future. Its going to become normal much faster than you guys think it is. If you continue clinging to this idea that its not real sex, you are denying yourself as well as many people around you a lot of opportunities.
This means sex with material objects is real.
But unlike corpse sex, there's nothing wrong with waifu pillow sex.
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IceyLoco: Undercover malicious/harassment troll profile.
Why won't you just accept that waifu pillow sex is real too? You're trying to say that fucking animals and corpses is somehow more legitimate than this?
Masturbation:
- From the Latin words manstuprare, from manus "hand" (as in manual) + stuprare "defile" (oneself), from stuprum "defilement, dishonor," related to stupere "to be stunned, stupefied" (as in stupid).
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That's true. Handjobs are not considered sex even though it is a girl doing it to you because she's using her hand to masturbate you. Masturbation specifically involves using a hand. It doesn't matter if a person is involved or not.
You can talk to her and engage with her. You can tell what sorts of people, what social realms, she hangs out with. You talk to her, you have sex with her, it makes her closer to you.
She has to be largely autonomous. Even though she is built for sex all day all night and 365 days per year, she still though thinks and discusses things just like we do. So she helps keep a community together.
The organization I am building will have most of its women serving in such a capacity, but they will be real women.
SJG
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SJG
The larger organization will exist as I have described. Among other things its a share-a-woman program.
SJG
Consider this question: In the movie "American Pie," with what type of pie does the main character, Jim Levenstein, have sex?
Follow up question: Do you really think most people who have seen that movie would object to the validity of that question? How does that question make sense in your head if sex is only between two living humans? If one were to ask the different question, "with why type of pie does Jim masturbate?" don't you think people who have seen the movie would actually object to THAT question, and correct the asker by saying something like, "Jim doesn't masturbate with any pie, he has sex with an apple pie because somebody told him that that is what sex feels like and because he was a virgin he decided to experiment."
I hereby declare that if one can have sex with an apple pie, one can certainly have sex with a doll that very closely resembles a female human. If you claim that Jim Levenstein doesn't have sex with an apple pie in the movie "American Pie" then you are irrational.
SJG, Icey, et al... you are wrong.
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I have only yielded subject to this condition, not an AI, but actually an A-Life.
SJG
SJG what's the share-a-woman program?
SJG
We take very good care or our women. And so 365 days per year you will be getting drained dry by stripper grade hotties.
SJG
- That's fair. I wouldn't say that the three are equally strange or equally taboo, though. In fact, if the quality of a "sex life" is measured by the difficulty with which it is achieved (e.g. having 5 plates who are all 10s is more difficult than having 2 plates who are both 4s), then I think sex with dead people and sex with animals may be a greater sex life than sex with a pillow, merely due to the fact that those two are far more difficult to achieve than fucking a pillow. I mean... most people sleep on top of a pillow every single night they go to bed. Fucking a pillow is easier than fucking a girl. It's also easier than fucking one of these $2000 sex dolls.
"There's a difference between sticking your dick in something til you cum and having sex with someone. "
- Absolutely. No argument there, sex with a person is very different. My argument is simply about semantics: what should be considered "sex" and what shouldn't. Not about the quality of sex, or the magnitude.
FYI, some people and some organizations consider masturbation to be a form of sex. Here I quote a government website: "Masturbation is a safer form of sex that carries no risk of sexually transmissible infection or unplanned pregnancy."
My critique of having an imaginary sex partner is that you miss out on real life experiences, both good as well as bad, that help us learn coping skills and dealing with others.
You don't just fall into a great relationship from out of nowhere, you learn how to be a better partner over time. Not having that learning experience stunts your personal growth.
And with sex, if you have a high sex drive, its waste to fuck pillows when you could be learning to be a better lover with human girls.
SJG
I've only endorsed the idea if she is not just an AI, but an ALife embedded into a social network.
SJG
SJG
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