How did the VinceMichaels controversy get reignited?
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Everything written by this member is a fact.
Seriously, wasn't this already played out? I like a good flame war as much as the next person, but I can't imagine anyone here condones predatory behavior.
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Aces!
It was a perfect opportunity for rickdugan to avoid being an assclown. But he couldn’t resist! Why? Clearly, he is genetically predisposed toward maximum assclownery! ;)
rickdugan’s assclownery = a continual source of laughs for any TUSCL posters with at least 1/2 a brain!
In all seriousness I had zero issue with him or his deeper character I jumped on the bandwagon with Rick and beat the situation like a dead horse.
In all seriousness it’s time to let it go. Anyone who ever met the guy said he was good people and I was one of the largest perpetrators of the flaming while I actively was looking at porn of 18-19 year olds screaming “daddy” etc.
Hardly a guy a judge or hold a grudge on.
Wish I could have apologized when he was alive but neither of us took this very serious to begin with so he’d likely laugh it off
I think RickiBoi is a fag lol
We'll all have this handy the next time these pedophile sympathizers misbehave, especially 25, who was the Pedophile Defender-in-Chief.
That was the post of the night.
Recent example here. More could be brought up upon request.
https://www.tuscl.net/app/discussion.php…
And yet not aware of VM related shenanigans. Hmm.
You state, "In all seriousness it’s time to let it go. Anyone who ever met the guy said he was good people...", and I agree, let it go. I was also one that clubbed with him a number of times in S. Florida and emailed with him often. He told me the entire story about all this TUSCL BS and I believe him. He had no reason to lie to me. That said, I'll carry that conversation with me to MY grave. Yes he was "good people"!
You state, "In all seriousness it’s time to let it go. Anyone who ever met the guy said he was good people...", and I agree, let it go. I was also one that clubbed with him a number of times in S. Florida and emailed with him often. He told me the entire story about all this TUSCL BS and I believe him. He had no reason to lie to me. That said, I'll carry that conversation with me to MY grave. Yes he was "good people"!
Sounds like you have a jealousy thing going on. Maybe instead of taking out your frustrations on me, perhaps you could send him a PM asking if he has a Grindr account. Somehow I doubt it, but it doesn’t hurt to ask...
Also right before you made rude comments about my genitals you called me an “attention whore drama queen”
...but as we all know, you yourself love drama. After all “Drama is what drives good talk boards, always has been.“
https://www.tuscl.net/app/discussion.php…
That’s a pretty good indicator of your motivations. You view me as competition. Idk what to tell you there. Maybe you could buy Juice some Arby’s or something.
...But alright if you feel like the conversation has diverted too much, then back to square one then:
“I remember when pistola “accidentally” reignited it.
https://www.tuscl.net/app/discussion.php… “
I think Clubber has a much better idea of what really happened. We don't know the full story so we can't be the judge and jury over this. If Clubber says he was a good man then I will believe it. Dougster had long hated VM and what his tactics really amounted to was brainwashing the board through constant spamming.
What a shame. We keep losing good posters due to trolling and snarky comments from a few very creepy old men who have treated this place like their sandbox for a very long time. Maybe it's time that you old pedophile sympathizers begin to understand that this place is not solely for you and a few other weird old fuckers to pat each other on the back and plan your in-person meets.
Why don't you head on back to Stripper web and creep on there you perverted psycho, that appears to be about your speed.
>We keep losing good posters due to trolling and snarky comments from a few very creepy old men<
That comment alone would be comedy gold, but considering the source, all I can say is WOW< WOW<WOW
This is incorrect. Pistola did not survive. He is mad as hell because he is stuck in the server. That is why his comments can still be seen. The devil will soon be here to get him. He does not have such luxuries as those like Dennis Hof. Denis Hof was straight and went down with the ladies. Dying with balls in your mouth is a whole nother deal.
I've also met VinceMichaels(Pat) on several occasions. Platinum Plus in Columbia SC and at Follies. I knew him well enough that I was able to find out the details of his passing and reported them on here. I knew him well enough that he had on 2 occasions spent the night at my house.
How well did you know him?. Did you ever met him or talk to him? Do you know the circumstances surrounding the happenings with the 14 yo girl on his sailboat? The police did! You sound like a Democrat at the Kavanaugh hearings.
You fancy yourself as some kind of hot shot reviewer on here and yet you have been to Atlanta and did not visit one of the most talked about clubs on this site...Follies. I guess you consider that to just be a place for creepy old pedophiles to hang out at.
Maybe you're trying to cover up some defect in your own persona by attacking others. Maybe you should just pack it in and let it go.
The man is dead!
Oh, and I think I've mentioned that I've been to Follies and for me it sucked. After I finally managed to score a seat at the bar during my night shift visit, I saw almost nothing but hood rat 6s. However, since I didn't like it and did not stay long, I refrained from trashing it - something your boy doctor could take lessons from.
END OF STORY!!!
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But clearly not you, as you made eminently clear in this thread:
https://www.tuscl.net/app/discussion.php…
You can keep claiming slander all you want, but what he said and you're ardent defense of him is all in black and white.
I’m done with you.
I remember when I first stumbled upon TUSCL somewhere around 2007. There was a member that I remember as someone who wrote about visiting "jack shacks". I don't remember his username, but I do remember he was acquainted with many of the old timers and if I am not mistaken had even met Shadowcat. I always thought he was kind of creepy, and wondered about his TUSCL acquaintances who seemed to interact with him on a regular basis.
My memory is still fuzzy on this, but I do seem to remember he was incarcerated for child pornography. I stopped following TUSCL for a while because my impression of the few people who post 24/7 was that they were sketchy and I did not have any inclination to interact with them on any level.
Today, I still seem to have misgivings about the people who post 24/7.
That aside, from what I have gleaned from this discussion, I tend to agree with dufus Dugan.
I also agree with CC. I know almost nothing about this guy but because many vouch for him, and I have a good opinions of the individuals who have, is why I won’t harp on the memory of this man.
I will instead use this thread to focus on what is currently relevant: the fact that pistola is sexually frustrated because he wants the Juice in his mouth.
Just wondering.
So even if you’re being called out for being gay, there is no need for you to panic and make sexual comments towards me and pretend to be straight.
(Why even use me as a cover anyways, when you have been attempting to circulate that I have a vagina that is sour and curry-like?)
Good luck on your journey out of the closet!
And nah. You go fuck off. In a gar bar to relieve all the pent up tension making you all grumpy.
By the way, pedophile's are exclusively attracted to kids who haven't had puberty. They wouldn't tend to hang out in strip clubs and fuck adult women.
It's interesting I've never seen Rick have any vitriol for the people who cheer 30 year old teacher's fucking 14 year boy students...
Do you really believe that continued musings and repetition will make either of them look any less sick? Good luck with that, however many accounts you have. I'd say it's long past time to let this sad chapter die, but you'll post what you want I suppose.
Dude you shouldn’t let the Whiskey do your thinking for you, I mean really.
Clearly you lack imagination then. Acceptance is not the same as approval, but it can be horrible in its own right. Clearly there was a "bros before hoes" mentality in play here, even if the "hoe" in this case was a poor 14 year old child whose only crime was to misplace her trust with this seeming kind older man. The most skilled pedophiles never seem predatory and even convince themselves that they are the nice guy by giving their attention to a neglected child.
Just be grateful that you didn't run into 25's BFF when you were 14.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQ-YjGmp…
@doctorevil: Seems to be talking from personal experience. Good thing NiceSpice didn’t run into Ricky Douchebag when she was 14.
You know doc, some of your criticism of RD is valid, but this one goes too damned far.
The notion that pedophiles don’t act like pedophiles around non-victims, and the fact that they go unrecognized by “normal” people for long periods of time is pretty well documented, and born out by my *own* experience with a high school teacher nobody would ever have expected, of it weren’t for people coming out 20 years later.
So basically, this boils down to an ad hominem attack on your part because you don’t have any actual facts to present, so you attack him instead of the argument.
From my standpoint, vm’s statement is pretty damning, and I don’t see anywhere that he ever attempted to retract, amend or explain it. It *could* have been a misstatement, maybe vm was 14 or 15 at the time or something. Maybe he never bothered with a defense simply because he knew it wouldn’t fly with the one who raised the issue anyway, because frankly, it wouldn’t have. Dougster is mentally incapable of letting go.
So dismissing the issue as overblown by some of those who’ve met him doesn’t really fly with me because as stated above, pedophiles don’t act like pedophiles to most non-victim people. And intimating that Rick is a pedophile because he doesn’t like pedophiles is just plain stupid.
I met the guy once as well, apparently right before he died, and I didn’t pick it up either. So maybe he was, and maybe he wasn’t, but that statement of his is still damned damning, and right stupid of him to make in a public forum.
I can't see doctor's most recent posts, but I haven't blocked 25...yet. They are kinda' my board entourage now - just look at how many of their last 100 or so posts are dedicated to lil ol' me. ;) This whole thing reignited because I called out 25 for his hypocrisy in trolling me with made up misdemeanors after putting on such an ardent defense for his pedophile BFF. This was even after his bestie threw the meetup crew under the bus by implying that they were guilty of similar crimes, again proving that reason has little room for them.
BTW as jester rightly pointed out, if the story is true and he wasn't just posting out of his ass, which happens here a lot, it was statutory rape, not pedophilia. Now shut the fuck up, or back up your big mouth with facts, not your usual keyboard bluster.
I am done with you I was addressing GMD !
But anyway, that's speculation. What we do know is that 25 is happy to troll me for having the audacity to negotiate with grown women, eagerly making up stories of drug addicts in support of his contentions, yet suddenly becomes a criminal defense lawyer after his BFF admits to sticking his dick in the mouth of a middle school child.
So you have a problem with me suggesting that the Ricky Boy may be pedophile, which he may well be given his abnormal fixation on the subject (he is the one that continually brings it up), but you don't have a problem with Ricky Boy and his retarded little brother tittyfag calling me, 25, and others defenders of pedophilia because we didn't jump on his anti-VM bandwagon trying to get VM banned from the board? Ricky Boy is entitled to his opinions, as stupid as they may be, and they are usually pretty stupid, but he isn't entitled to force everyone else to adopt his opinions, and he and Dougster weren't entitled to relentlessly spam the board to try to force everyone else to join in their anti-VM crusade.
The bottom line is, I don't give a shit what VM said or didn't say. I don't know him, didn't know him, never met him, never talked to him, never PMed him. He said some stupid shit, but so have any number of posters on this board. I haven’t advocated and am not going to advocate banning anyone from this board. Refusing to join Dougster and the Douchebag’s anti-VM campaign doesn’t make me or anyone else a defender of pedophilia.
By the way, the anti-VM crusade, as I recall, started out with a stupid stolen valor accusation because VM made some stupid post about having served during Vietnam, then later said he served by protesting in the streets. I served a lot of years in the military, including multiple deployments, and I don’t give a shit what he said about serving, and it wasn’t stolen valor. It was stupid joke that fell flat, just like his sailboat story may well have been. I don’t know and I don’t care. I also happen to know that some of the others who didn’t join the anti-VM stolen valor crusade are vets also and didn’t give a shit about his stupid joke. I wonder how long Ricky Boy and the others that jumped on the stolen valor bandwagon served in the military, and how much combat time they have? When that didn’t gain any traction, they went through old posts and dug up this pedophilia claim, and then went crazy spamming the board over it to the point Founder had to ban Dougster, and they still don’t want to let it go. Their obsession with VM, first with the stolen valor claim and then the pedophilia thing is just plain weird. Remember the old Shakespeare line: “The lady doth protest too much.”
Whatever, you're entitled to you opinion, too. I don't have a beef with you, or anyone else on the board, except Ricky Boy, because he is an arrogant prick. But I do think it’s pretty funny that you are offended by an ad hominem against Ricky Boy, the number one initiator of ad hominems on this board.
And finally, yes, as others have pointed out, even if the sailboard story is true, it’s not pedophilia. It might be an indicator of hebephilia or ephebophilia, but it’s not that either unless VM’s primary interest was younger girls, and those who knew him said that didn’t appear to be the case. It might be statutory rape, but then again maybe not, depending on how old VM was at the time, where this occurred, and when. So by all means, let’s stick with the facts.
The Douchebag: "I can't see doctor's most recent posts, but I haven't blocked 25...yet." Yeah, I'll bet. This is the guy that lurks offline so he can see my posts and then sends messages through a third-party like a teenage girl. https://www.tuscl.net/app/discussion.php… That's assuming the third-party isn't just another one of his aliases, which it may well be.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_co…
Oooh really? I don’t think that’s true, but I’m still flattered.
The TUSCL adaptation of "Whoever smelt it dealt it."
Right. Pedophile sympathizers and ambivalent sociopaths are the normal ones, while those who have a visceral reaction to the pedophiles and their defenders really just have closeted issues. Good luck selling that one. ;)
Maybe whoever wrote that could go to his/her next Lay Council meeting at the local church and float that same theory when they come to the Protecting Our Children agenda item come up for discussion. Or at the next PTA meeting - wouldn't he/she be a real hit there.
Only in a place like this could a bubble of comfort exist for a guy to admit child rape and then have a group of buddies continue to yuck it up with him and even defend him after the fact. Well, they can reap what they sow now, at least those who continue to troll with made up character issues after they went ahead and accepted the unacceptable and defended the indefensible,