Review Standards: Listing dancer names is not very impressive
rickdugan
Verified and Certifiable Super-Reviewer
As more clubs turn to social media to advertise their wares, dancer stage names are no longer hard to come by with many clubs. I rejected two different reviews today which listed dancer names, but provided almost nothing else of worth. At least for me, being able to name a few of the dancers on shift does not guarantee an approval. The hurdle has to be higher than that.
Also, if you cannot discuss what it cost you to walk in the door, order a drink and pay for whatever else you did, then for me the hurdle is higher still. Prices are the hardest thing to fake because the reviewer knows that anyone else reading the review can quickly spot bad information, so if they are not there then I need to see a lot of other very specific looking intel or else I'm going to hit REJECT.
I'm posting this because I think I've hit a 2 day record for the number of reviews that I've rejected since yesterday. It's been bad.
Any other thoughts on this would be welcome, whether you agree or disagree.
Also, if you cannot discuss what it cost you to walk in the door, order a drink and pay for whatever else you did, then for me the hurdle is higher still. Prices are the hardest thing to fake because the reviewer knows that anyone else reading the review can quickly spot bad information, so if they are not there then I need to see a lot of other very specific looking intel or else I'm going to hit REJECT.
I'm posting this because I think I've hit a 2 day record for the number of reviews that I've rejected since yesterday. It's been bad.
Any other thoughts on this would be welcome, whether you agree or disagree.
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In regards to reviews, I only approve reviews with perfect grammar, sentence structure and paragraphs. With the exception of the one I just approved for Sugar 44.
Just imagine you could’ve smashed her in 2011-2013 for $150-800
But I did reject one today that caught my eye - it caught my eye bc it was a duplicate submission - as I was checking to make sure it was a duplicate I noticed it was a very short review - went ahead and read it and it pretty-much had zero worthwhile info (just a couple of generic sentences).
The other thing is drink prices are really volatile things. If a club is running a special on a liquor I actually like, my drink tab might be half the usual and that's what I'll remember. Plus I drink rail stuff when I can so I'm usually around $5 a drink in most clubs, even ones where the prices tend to be higher. It's been years since I've seen a dancer care if I drink cheap stuff, especially if I'm ok with spending a little more on a top shelf drink for her. I did have a dancer go into great detail about how unimpressive my phone was the other day, so much so that the customer beside me (a stranger) was cracking jokes about it after she walked off. They were funny jokes so I didn't take it personally, and it gave him a chance to shoot his shot with some flirting. That went less well, but I digress.
So I know that's not exactly what Rick was getting at in his post, but when I read over reviews before they get published my only real criteria is if I thought there was something helpful in it about the club. If it's false info about a club I've never been to, that's why locals have a chance to comment on reviews and throw the BS flag. There's detailed reviews I'll reject because telling me everything extraordinary about an amazing dancer (if she exists) tells me nothing about whether I'd like the club. Or writing a review that could easily be 50 other clubs tells me nothing about whether I'd like the club. It's all subjective, though. Sometimes a three line rant will get approved by me simply because it's helpful in my opinion to know that someone could get so pissed off about a place. Drink prices are just one of those things I'll agree to disagree on, because I use drinks in clubs more as a prop than anything else.
There was one not too long ago that used about a thousand words or so to essentially say, “the club was dark; I met a dancer with big tits; we had sex.”
That shit will get rejected every damned time.
I hear that I suppose, but a review without cost intel is much less useful for the average strip club goer. Most club hounds, especially those who go out at night, buy drinks and pay cover charges at clubs. For them, the almost silent majority around these parts, the value proposition for a club hinges a great deal on the cost of drinks and entry. At certain tourist trap clubs that overcharge at the bar and play games with alcohol amounts, a hound could easily ring up a $300+ bar tab buying drinks for himself and a dancer or two, where the same drinks may cost him less than half that at a less gimmicky place.
Then of course there is the price of dances. I've lost track of how many reviews, where guys claim to go back for LDs or rooms, don't even have this information. I don't think I need to spell out why this is important information. If he never went back then so be it, but anyone claiming to have done so should be able to recall the damage.
Also, to your point about locals making comments if a review is fake, I'd rather catch a fake review before it is published if possible.
I hate reviews that are obviously about a trip he made there a couple years ago, usually because he wants VIP to plan for an upcoming bachelor party or something.
On another note, feel free to end the age old "Enter The C-------/Exit The C------ " reviews!
See what I mean?
I'm not a stickler on pricing because I don't monger on a budget but I understand how it is useful information, so if there is enough other useful Intel I would approve the review.
The current review system seems to reword reviewers with not much new to say but lots of words to say it.
Comments like “negotiated a bj for $50” is vastly different information than “she got oral for only $250 (plus $150 for the room)”. Stating prices paid for what service received makes both these statements eminently more useful than “then she sang Billy Joel”.
This is the second thread in which you tried to blame others for your own failure to post something useful. How about instead of whining, you just do better, like posting something that makes us believe you actually visited the club? I have not had a single review rejected under the new system and I posted several in that time. Same too with many others. Plenty of short reviews get approved if they seem to contain specific useful intel, which obviously yours did not if it was rejected.
https://www.tuscl.net/app/rev.php?id=350…
I ask again, has anyone been harmed by a bad review? All of this pettiness over reviews will only tend to reduce the population of reviewers. Then we will be left with fewer reviewers and reviewed clubs. When that happens, I imagine the topic will turn to "what can be done to get more reviewers?"
If all you can do is obsess about reviews and ratings, you need to get a life outside of TUSCL.
It still appears to me that you are the vocal minority, and it still appears to me based upon comments posted, raising the bar would result in less participation. Less participation results in less growth and information.
The problem is, the standards are set by whichever 3 VIP members vote first. There are no defined standards so each indidual sets his own. Depending on the luck of the draw, or the phase of the moon, a review may or not be approved.
So, unless I missed Founder declaring you the Review Judge, your standards only apply to, at most, one vote out of three.
What I’m suggesting is Founder declare a more objective standard or guideline that takes some of the randomness out of the current system.
The system (not Rick's system, but the review system) doesn't appear broken, except in your eyes. Hell Rick, it wasn't that long ago that you railed against a member
for taking only 15 minutes to determine a club was a shit hole, and it didn't agree with your view of the club.
Anyway, this discussion is getting ridiculous. I am off to enjoy the day.