What works, what doesn't, when to do it, when not to?
I've spoken about this before, did lots of it before I was married, and even continuing after married. Mostly though I don't like it, senseless, wasteful.
What it does down to is that instead of giving money to the girl, you are spending money on the girl. The first is quite practical. The second is very wasteful, just done for effect.
But you never will completely get away from it. Sometimes you can't just say, "Lets go fuck". With some things have to go slower.
I would still say though that the more calendar time involved, the more problematic it is, the more fretting, the more it is a big deal.
For myself, I have found indoor shopping malls to be very conducive places for hitting on girls. You have to use skill, you cannot follow them around. When I have done it, I have limited myself to two views. See her from one side, decide. Approach and see her from the otherside. Need to decide on that second pass, and if it is thumbs up, then engage with her and try to make it happen.
Usually it does work. Sort of a 6th sense about her availability and compatibility. Usually not dressed to please, i.e. mini-dress and stripper shoes. But still some very nice looking girls.
Sometimes they are startled, which is fine. In a moment though they will open up to compensate for this.
But hard to get more than a phone number, and trying to make it go faster could piss her off.
If you call the number though, in my experience, car keys and wallet dating works. Unless she is a virgin, third world immigrant, or religious fundamentalist, car keys and wallet dates usually become TLN's. Its just that nothing like that is agreed to up front.
Same for casual meetings in and around the work place. Manner of dress, near the work environment, screens the people. Many of the young women would love nothing better than a car keys and wallet date. But again, trying to make things happen faster is a big risk.
So what kinds of car keys and wallet dates?
Been to zillions of movies, but that was long ago. And really I don't like movies, too manipulative, cheap emotionalism, bullshit. Today there is home DVD.
Art Cinema, we still have that. I think some places actually have digital screens, not film. Over all could be good. Has generally been good when I have used this.
Eating, good because everyone needs to eat. Never yet encountered a girl who does not like to be taken to eat. But, too much formality is a negative in my view. The very best is when it can just be improptu.
Late night eating after some other event, really good. Very late but good restaurants always desireable.
Most car keys and wallet dates do go to a preliminary makeout sessions. And the girls are usually really horny. But sometimes still better to delay taking her home with you. So late night eating is always a good option.
Night clubs and discos, have used these for dates, but still mixed at best.
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SJG
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Night clubs and discos get her to dress the part, and that is a plus. But such venues are more for groups, and more for hitting on women.
So these are mixed at best for car keys and wallet dates.
Daytime dates, can be good.
Performing arts I have always found to be outstanding. Symphony, Plays. Used to go to all the local theater companies, and to San Jose Symphony. Best was VITA, had Shakespeare in the summer time, and outdoors. And then UC Santa Cruz always had really good plays.
The local theater groups tend to be too conservative. And this stuff is harder to set up. More for a girl you are going out with regularly, not for one you just met.
And lectures and such, the same way.
Met girl at a shopping mall and took her to eat, fast food in the mall, followed by a nicer restaurant outside. But she was a stripper whom I knew, and she also worked at a hair cutting place. Mostly she wanted to make sure I was spending money on her as a prelude to giving money to her. Except for strippers, not the typical situation.
Art Cinema's good, late night and impromptu eating good.
Other things limited. What do other people think?
SJG