Been thinking about this because it irritates me all the complaining about the cubans at follies. How are they any different than the Mexican whores in tijuana? They speak just as much or less english than the cubans and yet hong kong is the greatest thing since sliced bread. Is it the price difference($50!)? Or is the hate for the cubans only because they dont drop the bottoms on the first song(for a whopping $10)? Why are the mexican whores in tj gods gift to pl's but the cubans are different?
I hate the the white girls left but in fairness my CF is one of those sexy Cubans... good god I love her huge natural breast and tight wet pussy... she is the best
Haven’t been to TJ, but based on descriptions/few photos I have seen, the Cubans at Follies are by and large not nearly as young and good looking as the TJ whores. If they were I wouldn’t have a problem with them at all. But most of the ones at Follies look like they aged out of a Cuban whorehouse (or were never good looking enough to hired in the first place).
I assume TJ is probably unique for Mexico - TJ seems like a tourist spot geared towards serving American tourists - I'm not sure one would get the same experience at a whore-house in another part of Mexico - the Hong Kong experience for example likely has more to do with it being Hong Kong than it necessarily does being Mexican.
"Saying Mexicans and Cubans are the same is like saying Americans and British are the sane bc they speak the same language."
Sorry. That wasn't where i was going with this. What i meant is the main complaint seems to be the cubans dont speak english and they dont drop the bottoms. But if you just want a quick nut whats the difference between the cubans(in general) and tijuana? The same services are available, only difference is the price.
"the Cubans at Follies are by and large not nearly as young and good looking as the TJ whores."
Good point. I hadnt thought about that. I have seen plenty of cuban 8s and 9s though but i dont know how they really compare since i haven't been to tj either.
I'm Cuban and grew up in Miami with the Cubans - Cubans have good qualities of being very family-oriented, friendly, and willing to help if you're in need, and on avg hard-working and kinda go-getters - but there is a disproportionate amount of corruption in the Cuban community and many don't have much qualms about fucking you over to make a buck - my problem with Cuban-strippers is too-many are sly in the way they try to make a buck and I def prefer to deal with Colombians and Puerto Ricans and on avg have had better experiences with them bc on avg they've been more straightforward and less about cheating you.
I have never been to TJ, but I look at it much differently. Spanish is the language of Mexico. If I am there and I cannot speak the language, that is my issue. If I go to TJ and can't speak the language, I know what I am getting into and am going for one thing.
When in Atlanta and going to Follies, my expectations are different. Part of the chase and selection process involves some build up. In my case that includes discussion. Being in Atlanta, I am hopeful that they can communicate on my terms. Not the case with the Cubans, or some other Central American dancers there. Hence the complaint, they can't participate in part of the process I am expecting at Follies which is important to me.
Actually I've read TJ reviewers complain about the language barrier and stating the overall experience would be better if either the TJ girls spoke better English or the PL himself spoke better Spanish.
As it's often discussed on TUSCL, even in the US there is a difference b/w the escort l-experience and the strip-club experience where for many PLs they like the socializing aspect of strip clubbing and thus the language-barrier will affect that socializing aspect - the TJ experience seems to be more-about/mostly-about busting-a-nut/fucking, than the acg US SC experience where many enjoy the club w/o necessarily busting a nut and socializing with the girls is a big-part of enjoying the SC for many - i.e. TJ may be closer to a US escort experience than a US SC experience with the former often being more business-like with less socializing.
I must be one of your biggest irritants. It depends on what you are looking for in an experience with a sex worker. If you just want to spend 10 minutes getting your nut, then TJ is probably fine for that.
I have been to TJ in 1961. See my article. I have also been to Mexican whore houses in Ensnada, La Paz, San Luis Rio Colorado, Hermosillo, Mazatlan, Culiacan, Puerto Valarata. Guadalajara, Mexico City & Acapulco. In my opinion border towns are the worst. I was also married for 27 years to a Mexican that was born and raised in Mexico.
I have no desire to return to any of those places. Yes I'm old and prefer the comforts of being home. When I go to strip clubs I not only want a good looking stripper but also one that will not hustle me and give me a GFE in VIP and one that could turn into one that I trust enough to meet OTC.
There are 3 or 4 Cubans at Follies that could meet my demands looks wise. I did talk to one about VIP once and she insisted on a condom for a BJ. There aren't any white girls left that meet my demands but there are quite a few black girls that do. I would rather give then $152 than fly across the country for a sub standard time in a shit hole city like TJ.
BTW - Follies is not the only club outside Miami that gets complaints about the Cuban dancers - in Miami/South-FL the bulk of the non-black dancers are Cuban so not much use complaining about them since you don't have too much option of not dealing with them, for the most-part - this is not to say there aren't Cuban dancers that will treat you well but I personally often/usually avoid dealing with them (and actually avoid doing business with Cubans in general - e.g. if I wanna buy a new-car I try to avoid a dealership in Miami where I will likely be dealing with a Cuban salesperson and often a Cuban GM that sets the tone for the dealership - I rather go to another county where I have a better-chance of doing business with a non-Cuban) .
I was just at Baby Dolls and the Cuban dancers were everywhere. I had the same “conversation” fifty times: “chew wanna dance baby,” “ no thanks.” over and over and over. I’ve never been with a Mexican whore and don’t plan to be but they’ve got to be better than this.
I haven't been keeping up on the Discussion board or Follies reviews in the last couple months, how did they run off all the white dancers? Ive seen this mentioned before so I thought I would ask this time, I don't meet a lot of Cuban dancers in MN.
anislee - I've lived in the Atlanta are for the last 30 years and have never heard from any source about any underground whore houses in the area. Why would a stripper tell you about one and lose your business?
St Paul, the Cuban girls will make it to Minnesota eventually. They are like a virus that spreads like wildfire and chases away all of the white girls. I was thoroughly disgusted by my experience at Baby Dolls this week.
The Cuban dancers are like an invasive-species - they tend to be very aggressive and don't give a fuck - and in certain clubs they supposedly undercut the white dancers - IDK the exact reasons why but often times when a large group of Cubans dance at a club the other dancers start to leave and it gets worse with time.
^ The thing I have found with Cuban girls it seems that if one is there and they do well, they bring others along for the ride, they’re very clannish as most first generation Americans are.
I'm not getting the sense of a "Cuban Invasion" from my limited perspective (Tampa, OH, IN). I don't lean on stereotypes too much. There was a notable Cuban duet addition to the Mons Venus in the last 2 years. Both were in the top 20% of hottest dancers in a club that had plenty of hotties to start with. Yet they'd charge the lower price point ($20 per dance), never miscounted, started dance in middle of song, or any other crap. You wouldn't see them idle on i-pads, they always hustled (good work ethic), yet I never felt like I was being hustled. Across the street, mixed experience. In 2016, encountered 2 daytime Cubans who either miscounted or overcharged me for dances. Yet on night shift, 4 Cubans (2 were 2nd or 3rd generation of sorts) were straight up with me. I saw no perceptible decrease in number of white dancers at either place.
The Cubans born or raised here that are Americanized and speak fluent English are not bad, it's the recent arrivals that came as teenagers or young-adults that are often problematic.
The revolutionary woman is a legend built into their culture. Its all in Laura Esquivel's "Like Water For Chocolate"
Can't find this described in detail in the book, but in the film adaptation they show the sister set up in a rail box car, and taking on a long line of working men.
She becomes a larger than life figure, and the commanding general of their revolutionary army. At Piedras Negras, opposite Eagle Pass, and the site of a rail bridge.
Damn good question. Saving the extinct white girls population is prob it. Sounds like the white girls need to step their game up. This country is all about competition. Anyway the do nothing for me so it could be all Cuban and black as far as im concerned. Still think hk is overrated. Just nerds are easily impressed.
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If they acted like Mexican whores then they wouldn't be a problem obviously.
The other issue is that they did run off all the white girls and amd that's unforgivable in itself :)
A. Whisper.
Saying Mexicans and Cubans are the same is like saying Americans and British are the sane bc they speak the same language.
Sorry. That wasn't where i was going with this. What i meant is the main complaint seems to be the cubans dont speak english and they dont drop the bottoms. But if you just want a quick nut whats the difference between the cubans(in general) and tijuana? The same services are available, only difference is the price.
"the Cubans at Follies are by and large not nearly as young and good looking as the TJ whores."
Good point. I hadnt thought about that. I have seen plenty of cuban 8s and 9s though but i dont know how they really compare since i haven't been to tj either.
When in Atlanta and going to Follies, my expectations are different. Part of the chase and selection process involves some build up. In my case that includes discussion. Being in Atlanta, I am hopeful that they can communicate on my terms. Not the case with the Cubans, or some other Central American dancers there. Hence the complaint, they can't participate in part of the process I am expecting at Follies which is important to me.
As it's often discussed on TUSCL, even in the US there is a difference b/w the escort l-experience and the strip-club experience where for many PLs they like the socializing aspect of strip clubbing and thus the language-barrier will affect that socializing aspect - the TJ experience seems to be more-about/mostly-about busting-a-nut/fucking, than the acg US SC experience where many enjoy the club w/o necessarily busting a nut and socializing with the girls is a big-part of enjoying the SC for many - i.e. TJ may be closer to a US escort experience than a US SC experience with the former often being more business-like with less socializing.
I have been to TJ in 1961. See my article. I have also been to Mexican whore houses in Ensnada, La Paz, San Luis Rio Colorado, Hermosillo, Mazatlan, Culiacan, Puerto Valarata. Guadalajara, Mexico City & Acapulco. In my opinion border towns are the worst. I was also married for 27 years to a Mexican that was born and raised in Mexico.
I have no desire to return to any of those places. Yes I'm old and prefer the comforts of being home. When I go to strip clubs I not only want a good looking stripper but also one that will not hustle me and give me a GFE in VIP and one that could turn into one that I trust enough to meet OTC.
There are 3 or 4 Cubans at Follies that could meet my demands looks wise. I did talk to one about VIP once and she insisted on a condom for a BJ. There aren't any white girls left that meet my demands but there are quite a few black girls that do. I would rather give then $152 than fly across the country for a sub standard time in a shit hole city like TJ.
The Cuban dancers are like an invasive-species - they tend to be very aggressive and don't give a fuck - and in certain clubs they supposedly undercut the white dancers - IDK the exact reasons why but often times when a large group of Cubans dance at a club the other dancers start to leave and it gets worse with time.
SJG
Aren’t most Mexicans Catholics?
Can't find this described in detail in the book, but in the film adaptation they show the sister set up in a rail box car, and taking on a long line of working men.
She becomes a larger than life figure, and the commanding general of their revolutionary army. At Piedras Negras, opposite Eagle Pass, and the site of a rail bridge.
SJG
But TJ shows guys that there is no reason not to have front room makeout sessions.
When I am there it won't be sex tourism, it will be for expanding a business, and getting Mexicans involved in it.
SJG