First time posting after a few months of lurking. Felt overwhelmed and wondering if others had similar first-time experiences?
Here's what happened:
I took my first TJ trip a couple of weeks ago and the articles, reviews and resources on here proved to be ridiculously valuable. Shoutout to the legends like Ron, OPIllini and many more who have left a comprehensive body of work for young, inexperienced PLs like myself can use to shepherd us through that terrifying first pilgrimage to ZN.
This is just a quick cautionary tale - nothing crazy. TL;DR for me at least - the Dragon really is a level 70...as Ron said here: tuscl.net. And I turned out to be pathetically underprepared.
After seeing Ron's post I actually booked the impromptu trip. I had this kind of adventurous "let's see what all the hype is about" attitude going down there. It's a kind of overconfidence that only 3 months lurking and painstakingly "studying" an obscure, seedy & degenerate far-off corner of the internet can give a man.
What happens when you walk through those black curtains for the first time? At least for me it was definitely overwhelming and at least a little panic inducing. Like an immediate, merciless artillery barrage on the senses that I struggled to operate in the whole night.
It's dark...and then through red tinted club lights, I began to make out huge it is. Roaming groups of tatted up spinner baddies everywhere in the club. Then I hear the comically out-of-place Arabic pop hits blaring from the speakers every other song.
I see mongers of all nationalities & ethnicities, age ranges, and economic status in there. It's the UN General Assembly in a Cantonese-themed Mexican whorehouse. All walks of life unified in their pursuit of putas. The world is a crazy place right now, so I honestly found this a little heart warming.
I drank scotch and sodas nonstop once I got a table on the second floor overlooking the first floor stages. I chilled for awhile and then popped my fichas cherry 10 times over. It didn't go father than a few dances and some fondling with like 5 girls.
My night ended around ~3am when I stumbled back to my room in Cascades. I'd failed to eat or really do anything to take care of myself since I'd arrived in ZN earlier that evening.
I called it quits on ZN the next day and spent a couple of nights at K Tower. I didn't go back to ZN after that first night.
I think in hindsight, I was not ready and really didn't know what I wanted out of the experience. I found that experiencing the fever dream was magnitudes different than reading about it.
Next Move:
I'll definitely be back. But I'm going to make a serious effort at leveling up a bit first and going in there knowing what to expect will help me next time around.
Next stop for me is Sao Paulo this week...which might make or break my whole experience in this game. Probably not the right mission to undertake after flunking out of HK, but I'll let folks know how it goes. Maybe I didn't actually learn a lesson from my TJ experience?
There's not a lot of information on tuscl about Brazilian clubs or the scene. I've had to piece together some knowledge from a few disparate sources. If anyone has any intel or a direction you can point me in for SP stuff, please let me know.
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last commentDamn from Tijuana to Paulo 2 Whore heavens you are a lucky man !
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@IWantHerOnMe my bad should I just remove it? Honestly, I'm not really clear on the distinction between articles and discussion posts
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@nemesisk7 thanks dude, we'll see how it goes. at the very least I'll have some new deets to contribute since brazil doesn't really have new reports. if you know anything about SP or have any tips, let me know
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Don’t worry about trying to draw clear lines between articles, discussions, reviews, and the like. Content is king. There are some who have opinions regarding what content goes where, but does it really matter all that much? Contributions of value should be praised.
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Good report. About eating, yeah, I would’ve definitely done so before going in HK. Drinking plenty of alcohol with an empty stomach usually doesn’t work well. Still, I’m glad you experienced the ZN; hopefully, you use this as a learning experience and the next trip will be better.
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Thanks OP. I feel like I made every mistake in the book. Not eating and binge drinking is shit I learned not to do early on in college. Goes to show you how disorienting the atmosphere can be to a total newbie. But that's cuz it lives up to the hype and then some. I'll be definitely be back and at least a little bit wiser I hope
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I've been going to TJ two or three times a year for more than a decade and the crowd of chicas at HK on a weekend night is still overwhelming. There had to be 300 chicas Friday night... Talk about a target rich environment!
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I’ve been there (figuratively) but not in TJ. I try to imagine being rescued, not taken captive.
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Sounds like culture shock. The shock is especially strong when you're from a wealthy country experiencing a poor country. If you have little or no experience with FS or NSA sex generally, it can feel creepy. Add in booze, the problem solution that usually makes the problem worse. From talking to the BGs, it sounds like it's orders of magnitude harder for sex workers to work renegade/independent in TJ. I have a strong preference for renegades, so I was once and done with the place. I've not encountered a non-mental renegade who gives bargain rates. Which I take as an indication that bargain rates come out of the chick's hide.
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I'll never forget my first visit back in May of 2014. went down there with a experienced online friend and it was epic...
first checked out Adelitas for about a half an hour then on to Hong Kong. stayed there probably six to eight hours and then drove back to LA.
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took me about a half a year before I started staying in the hotels Cascada and Rizo on a regular basis because it would take a few hours to drive and I thought as long as I'm going to drive may as well stay for a few days at a time. I always stay at least two nights many times three nights sometimes for an even a couple of times five nights...
so I've been down to enjoy the clubs and the ladies... and the neighborhood hundreds of times since and the only fly in the ointment has been the bandits with badges...
I've had no problems eating the food down there... I tend to favor eating in Hong Kong Club ordering from a mesero and use the BOGO coupon... of course there's a lot of times I eat at Senda Norte cafe and Azul ... and use my HK VIP card for a discount. I also have a few Street tacos from time to time and I do hang out with some friends that know their way around to different restaurants in Tijuana and the Playa and down to Porto Nuevo at the south end of Rosarito.
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definitely EPIC and a nice option so close to home. it's become one of my favorite... but I've started visiting a few other spots such as Thailand since then and have plans on Europe one of these days and back to Southeast Asia. OLE!
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I have no idea what I did to get the bold type...🤣
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The best whorehouse in the world is there Many world mongers agree . Scandallo
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Thanks for letting me know you found some of my advice useful OP!
OMG, Brazil, good luck with that. I hear it's great mongering territory, but definitely not for the faint of heart.
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I'm not sure why the OP thinks he flunked out his first visit. It seemed like a memorable experience. Having fichas with 5 girls, getting back to the room safely after a bit too much alcohol and not overextending the stay while hammered all seems like a great trip to me.
We say it over and over again, there is no one right way to have fun. Each night it can be very different. It could be one night you ficha with 5 you don't quite connect with but have fun, the next night you find yourself in the middle of a double somehow, third night you find one you connect with right away and only see one chica the whole night.
Don't be too critical on yourself. It is just for entertainment and fun. Your night sounded fun to me!
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Well said @justinyoo! I agree it does sound like OP had a great night even if it didn't culminate in an arriba.
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appreciate the encouragement guys. definitely changing my perception and expectation on what a "good" HK outing looks like.
I definitely learned some things and doubt it'll be so overwhelming next time. I think the trip was a positive - looking forward to next time now that I'm a little more acclimated to the whole thing.
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What are fichas?
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A ficha is a lady drink. Usually it's a tiny 5 oz beer that costs $10-11 depending on the club. Buy a bar girl a ficha and she'll sit and chat, flirt, give you lap dances, etc, until she finishes the drink. After that you buy another, send her packing, or take her upstairs for an arriba. Spending a long time in the club buying fichas and canoodling with a chica is known as "ficha fucking".
Fichas are a major way the bars in Tijuana make they're money. The law says they can't profit from selling sex, so they sell drinks instead. The girls get like 50 pesos from every ficha (~$3), meseros get a few pesos and the club keeps the lion's share of the profit.
Technically, the "ficha" (literally, chip) is the ticket the mesero gives her to redeem for the 50 pesos, not the drink itself. But everyone just calls the drinks fichas.
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