OTC/“Toda La Noche” a Hong Kong dancer?

I don’t know any of the answers you’re looking for, butnindonlnow that SJG will pretend to be an expert on the topic without ever visiting.

I’ve gone to TJ a few times, but I never rented a room. I’m not much help, but always keep your wallet in your front pocket until you get to your room.

How much are fische drinks?

Fiche drinks

I really don’t care about this discussion - as I’m not going to TJ. But I agree with Meat72’s comment about SJG. I’m sure he will offer an opinion. The op even used SJG’s signature expression!

Cashman, Toda La Noche means all night in Spanish. SJG didn't pin this expression but he talks about it almost as much as he does the front room makeout session.

tdn totally depends on the girl. best to wait to tdn until after her shift ends. cost can range from zero to a few hundred. again totally depends on the girl. another words... YMMV.
hong kong fichas are $9. and i tip the mesero $1. most dancers shifts seem to be eight hours or so. maybe ten hours in some cases.

and DO NOT PAY HER IN ADVANCE for tdn.

You can have a girl spend the night with you. Just ask. I had it happen. She was awesome and I paid her $80 for the fun (negotiated downstairs) and then gave her $40 extra when she left because I felt like it. Only reason she left was because I woke up and kicked her out. She did get me off twice which was awesome. Plus I played with her a bunch and took a shower with her. Tons of girls to pick from, just have to find the best one. The shifts are up to the girl from what I have heard and experienced. Some girls like showing up at 11pm. Some earlier. I stayed up to 4am one time, slept about an hour or so, came back down around 6:30am and there were still a lot of girls, and different ones. Took another upstairs around 7:30am, had some fun then left for the border asap. Got my shoes cleaned for $1 and then stood in line.

the shoe shine guys. ALLWAYS offering their services with a smile. even to me and my flip flops. and tdn... should be tln. (I'm still learning.)

It seems like that TJ Zona is set up to be all things to all people, the main variable being how much time you want to spend with a girl. Seems like they have set it up so that as much as possible, they can deliver.

Anyone ever find a girl who declined TLN because she had other commitments?

People exchange contact info and see a girl again by appointment? Outside of the Zona?

Use something other than HK Bar meseros for changing money, like a bank?

Find any advantage fishing for girls in the VIP rooms instead of around the main stage?

SJG

TFP - I was joking about TLN. I know he didn’t coin the expression.

However, he seems to have offered his input.

there are no banks in the neighborhood. there are some ATMs. some disperse pesos and some disperse dollars. I have not used one. there are two Cambio's just to the east of Hong Kong to exchange dollars into pesos and vice a versa. and yes sjguy... I have had girls say no to tln. it is because I will not pay extra to have her sleep with me. i'm not saying they haven't... but I'm not paying her to sleep with me.

I enjoy TLNs. A few girls have spent the night with me for free, but I had a long history with them and under very specific circumstances. Eight hours with an escort is $350 and up, and it seems the TJ bar girls are in that range. Amigos I have connected with in TJ have told me the girls go TLN from $0 to $500. It all comes down to what you can negotiate.

You can take a girl out of the bar for TLN during her shift, but typically you will pay a bar fine, which at HK ranges from $80 to $200. Best to get her on her day off or after her shift.

Many have family commitments, like small children. Indeed, it is hard to find a puta in TJ that does not have small children.

I have the phone numbers of the girls I TLN with. I call and give them a few days notice. At that time I also make an offer for compensation. When they accept, they either schedule the day off or come to me after their shift to avoid a bar fine.

Nothing like waking up at 1:00 am, rolling over and pounding away on a little sweetie that you know will treat you right. Nap out and a few hours later, do it again.

What you want to avoid is having her wake up at 1:00 am and leave...with your wallet, camera, cell phone. I have never had this happen, but others have relayed such stories. Probably unlikely to happen with an HK BG, because she is too easy to find the next day. Street girls would be high risk.

tahoecruz wrote:

"Nothing like waking up at 1:00 am, rolling over and pounding away on a little sweetie that you know will treat you right. Nap out and a few hours later, do it again. "

AMEN BROTHER!

So you see 'em by appointment, outside the zona I assume.

For the initial finding of a girl, like the HK Main Stage area, or the VIP Areas? Any advantage to the VIP Areas?

TLN with girls from the other bars, and from the sidewalk, from the massage places?

And you've got it about what is so important about TLN, and all the more so if you are going to keep on seeing her.

Those kinds of midnight disturbances really get under a girl's skin. It really shows on her face in the morning.

SJG

^^^^^^ Continuing the above, I mean bedding down with a girl and knowing that you get to take midnight liberties, that's just like back when hairless apes lived in caves.

Everything we see which is risky or problematic about sex would be absent when hairless apes lived in caves. They don't know, they don't care. So you just pump as many loads into her as possible.

Just have to make sure you keep the fire going in front of the cave, so that you don't risk getting turned into cat food.

tahoecruz has got it right.

Misterwonderful, well I would suspect that for TLN you can kind of get a bulk discount rate, and much of it is more on a lower companionship rate, versus the higher sex rate. Everyone, even pretty girls, does need to sleep. Escorts of Mexico talks about TLN with Street Girls, even on first meeting. Seems quite reasonable. Also, about Mexicali they talk about it being more personal and slower and more economical. I interpret this is meaning more TLN's and more extended sessions. I think a lot of it does just comes down to, do you want to be seeing the girl again and maintaining an ongoing relationship? Or is it to be just a one time thing?

SJG

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SJG

And Dr. F.'s awesome girl by girl accounts, this one a return visit and the girl wants him for TLN.

"You know Mexican girls are possessive, right? So I want you as my boyfriend tonight. You stay with me." tuscl.net

I suspect that Dr. F. is too girl busy to post on this forum, and besides, why throw pearls before swine.

SJG

Thank you everyone for your responses.

@ MisterWonderful

8-10 hour shifts sounds exhausting. I wonder how many guys a girl goes through on average per shift?

@ galiziabob

Sounds like a great time. You didn't have problems with hotel management or bar fines when it came to keeping a girl in the room with you all night? I would assume they may send a staff member knocking to check up on her.

@ tahoecruz

Thank you for all the specific information. A wealth of knowledge as usual. I would love to try this if I can find a girl I'm really attracted to.

^^^^^^ I think you just gotta spend some time looking them over, such hard work, and you'll find a girl you're really attracted to.

Good Luck, SJG

@ SJG

Thank you for the encouragement.

I have not had problems. Never thought about it. I always just assume since its my own room that they dont care and its up to the girls. 3 of the girls so far that have stayed way over or all night have been amazing.Great girls!

@ galiziabob

Sounds like a great experience. I wonder if those girls were working there long enough that they get to flout certain rules.

It might be a matter of the end of thier shift or day of the week.

Never been to TJ. But from all which is posted, it sounds like if you check into an overnight room, then no one will bother you. And as far as the girl, that is entirely between you and she. No one tracks them when they are with you.

Don't know how many of them are willing and available for unscheduled TLN's. But I believe that many times it will be no problem at all. That Cascadas Hotel is set up for it.

Don't know about setting up TLN's with girls from other bars and massage parlors. From the street, there are lots and lots of accounts of it. Often very reasonable if very late at night. For myself I would not want to be doing that, approaching street hookers late at night.

But then again, for by appointment, should be no problem.

My own experience with local sex workers is that the second visit makes them exuberant.

At 2:20 he follows this woman upstairs to an awesome line up. People tell me that is Mermaids Massage. Don't know how easy it will be to get girls like that outside for TLN. But for an experienced TJ monger, obviously a more clean environment than HK Bar. People say the sex is great. But no front room GFE auditions normally in a massage parlor. So strengths and weakness. But for seeing a girl regularly by appointment, cleaner girls, brains less alcohol pickled, obviously better.

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There is are also more videos of the older one who leads him upstairs. And videos showing guys going to session with her in a bedroom.

And then lots of girl on the sidewalk that I for one would very much enjoy waking up with in the mornings.

We can have this here if guys would stop using our strip clubs to cheat on wive's and GF's, and stop being chumps and buying dances / ejaculation services.

Great Thread! Thanks to all who have shared their hard earned experiences.

SJG