Most Permissive States/Areas

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timothyjames55
Just here for a good time.
Just for my curiosity, and because I’m itching to travel, with the recent shutdown of Backpage, where I would lightly dabble from time to time, it’s got me thinking that I might like to find some fun in some strip clubs once again.

And seeing as there are no worthwhile strip clubs where I live (Mountain West), and I do most of my clubbing on frequent trips to Vegas where both ITC and OTC are harder to come by and more expensive, I’m curious about general areas of the country where either ITC or OTC are more readily available.

If you’d like to participate, please share the area at least, and actual club if you’d like of some favorite spots. And the why. I’ll start:

I used to find Hi-Liter of Phoenix to be easy pickings pre- August 2016 raid, but it all seems to have changed that day.

Tropical Lei in COI, CA I was a quick 2 for 2 on ITC with the first two that approached.

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jackslash
7 years ago
Detroit--or so I've been told.
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Papi_Chulo
7 years ago
Flight Club Detroit - combo of upscale and UHM - OTC doable like any other place
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Warrior15
7 years ago
Papi, do you really think Detroit is more permissive than Miami ?
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Papi_Chulo
7 years ago
Diamond Dolls Pompano (north of Miami) - good-looking Latinas willing and able - main drawback they speak little English but the language of love is international - OTC is doable like any club but the language barrier may be a limiting factor
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Papi_Chulo
7 years ago
@Warrior

Detroit is probably #1 in UHM IMO - seems in many clubs they almost look at you weird if u just want a dance
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Papi_Chulo
7 years ago
Follies Atlanta but it's midtier compared to Vegas - Follies is almost like a Roman orgy
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Papi_Chulo
7 years ago
^ Follies is midtier and a little seedy
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Papi_Chulo
7 years ago
Deans Gold North Miami - upscale - good-looking girls - anything can be had but pricey
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galiziabob.sabbatical
7 years ago
That's why if I had to pick anywhere in the US to go clubbing it would be South Florida. Heard diamond dolls is a fun place. Papi you spoke my language when you mentioned Latinas!
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Papi_Chulo
7 years ago
Tootsies Miami - anything can be had but seems to have more detractors than Diamond Dolls and Deans
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SirLapdancealot
7 years ago
Portland is not big on ITC. It happens* but there are a good portion of strippers that are into OTC instead. Stripping is just a way for some of them to advertise for OTC.

*Just the other day my ATF DS and I found a condom wrapper on the floor of one of the private booths.

I think Portland is one of the best cities for having a wide variety of clubs that range between permissive of extras to one-way touch only. Plus you can go to a fine upscale gentleman's club or a neighborhood dive bar with a pole and stage as an afterthought. There's a little bit of everything in terms of strip clubs here.

If money is no object and you want maximum ITC or debauchery, San Francisco is a good city for it. The only drawback is cost.

Phoenix, Albuquerque, LA, and Seattle are all good cities for at least high mileage clubs, extras ITC can be had, and there are strippers brave enough to openly offer it.

The cities I would not make any effort to visit just to club for extras are Nashville, San Jose, Sacramento, Reno, and Boise. I have had good times myself at clubs in all these cities, but in general they aren't as permissive than the cities I mentioned earlier.
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vincemichaels
7 years ago
I like Diamond Dolls, also. My recent visit there was a good time, talking with Papi and having a light dinner, very tasty one.
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timothyjames55
7 years ago
Great list! Papi, I’m unfamiliar with the term ‘UHM’???
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Papi_Chulo
7 years ago
UHM - Ultra High Mileage

(Trying to avoid using the term extras)
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Jascoi
7 years ago
i’m glad that only us mongers can understand this. ha!
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flagooner
7 years ago
Being cost conscious as I am...

Taking $$$ into account which is better value, Detroit or SoFla?

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twentyfive
7 years ago
I really have mostly clubbed in S Florida, but I’ve found being local, and/or being familiar with the local area helps a lot. It seems YMMV is very true.
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s275ironman
7 years ago
Within the next few years, I would like to visit Miami. Until then, I can’t give a fair comparison between Detroit and Miami since I’ve only been to clubs in Detroit.

Based on what I know, Miami has one clear advantage over Detroit in that you get to see the whole package on stage. Miami clubs are nude while Detroit clubs are topless. I think Detroit has the advantage when it comes to cost of dances. Detroit clubs have their VIP priced per song, or whatever amount you negotiate with your dancer. From what I understand, in Miami you usually have to buy a block of time (15 minutes, 30 minutes, etc) and on top of that, what you negotiate with your dancer in addition to the cost for the room.
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samsung1
7 years ago
Miami will be more expensive than detroit in many ways but might have hotter girls. If you want cheap value try atlanta the clubs hsve $5 or $10 dances.
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Warrior15
7 years ago
Well, if you really want to get permissive and it's cheap also. There is always Zona Norte in TJ.
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a21985
7 years ago
@Papi - to go offtopic, you mention UHM as a replacement for xtras, but in my mind I've always seperated any level mileage with that. In other words, to me mileage is anything the dancer is willing to let you do as part of the regular cost/process of the dance (with UHM being stick shifting, FIV, purposeful LDKing for the crowd that cares for that, etc...), while xtras is anything negotiated above and beyond that.

Am I alone in this mindset?
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wallanon
7 years ago
"Am I alone in this mindset?"

Probably not. But there's a range. In the TUSCL glossary you have at least two choices side by side.

UHM - Ultra High Mileage
VHM - Very High Mileage

Full Contact dances could turn into both, or neither. But what you're getting in discussions like these are people acting like they're saying the same thing when they're often not. TUSCL is better than other forums because there's a good attempt at agreed upon terms. For most of the frequent posters, I've seen enough of the their writing to track whether their idea of UHM is HM for me.
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Papi_Chulo
7 years ago
@a21

You are correct - it's just that in the current FOSTA climate with websites being taken down, I thought it'd perhaps be kosher to minimize the topic/mention of extras
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Electronman
7 years ago
I've never clubbed in Miami (its on my list!) so I can't offer a side by side comparison with Detroit. One thing that I can say about Detroit is that it offers a selection of clubs, ranging from high end (Flight Club, Penthouse (when it reopens)), to mid tier (Coliseum, Landing Strip, BT's Dearborn, Cricket, Players) to lower tier (Bogarts, Henry VIII, N and S) establishments. I have not mentioned all of the options. Prices are reasonable and probably lower than Miami. The wild card with Detroit is a recent uptick in law enforcement activities directed at strip clubs (e.g., a few raids to check dance cards and insure that dancers are properly clothed, some LEO action that seems to have resulted in Penthouse shutting down and remodeling it private dance area). To my knowledge, the suburbs have been less affected than clubs within the city of Detroit.

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impala
7 years ago
One word
AKRON
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Digitech
7 years ago
Providence, RI
Bridgeport, CT
Paterson, NJ
East St Louis/Washington Park, IL
Detroit, MI
Miami, FL

All of these have multiple clubs where extras are the norm and expected.
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san_jose_guy
7 years ago
"Follies is almost like a Roman orgy"

:) :) :)

Papi +20

SJG
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Warrior15
7 years ago
Digi - I need to save that list of cities.
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Leonard313
7 years ago
Tijuana, Mexico

"Inside" the United States...the "Tijuana of the North"...Detroit, MI.

I've only clubbed in Ontario, Canada...Tijuana, Mexico....Southern California....Illinois...Indiana...Lansing, MI...Detroit, MI...and Denver, CO. The only other place close to Detroit was Southern California...but much more hit an miss.

Like what was said above; going into a strip club in Detroit and NOT expecting extras usually throws them off a bit. Southern California it really depends on which place you choose. There are some that are very "strictly dancing" and others that are just hangouts for escorts.

If you're in an area and want to club regularly, I suggest using this site...trying out multiple places...then deciding on some favortites. Try not to "just go once"...strip clubs have off days just like anywhere else. But, if you're visiting an area...then you gotta try and read what you can from the cryptic reviews (cryptic on purpose) and hope you make the right choice.

At the end of the day...$$$ equals sex. If you got cash...most strippers will let you do anything to them short of lighting them on fire. It's just a matter of how much cash you want to spend.
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