Was reading back through the article on "Sugaring" Subra wrote. Also spent some time looking at the Seeking Arrangement site.
Several of the really cute girls commented that they were looking for a good looking Sugar Daddy in order to be intimate.
So, on a 1-10 scale how would you rank your looks. 10 highest value. I would give myself a 7.5. For those of you trying Seeking Arrangement, have you experienced this from any of the girls you've tried?
Im a RICH STUD, so 10.
Well, in the club dancers are always coming up to me and saying "hey handsome, want some company?" so I must be at least a 9, right?
Based on looks alone, I'm an 8.
Most girls like a guy with confidence over how "pretty" he is. So if you come across as such, then you come across as sexy and good looking to most girls. So I act like I'm a 9.
^ if you have to rationalize it like that you must be a 2
I"m a 9 + . :-)
one. i’m an old fart.
Its hard to answer this like sounding like a total douche. But then again who cares. So I had one very cute girl ask me why I was on there since I was soo handsome. She was weirded out by the marriage thing so it diddnt happen. My first long time dancer/SB wanted marriage but primarily the age gap was just dumb, I had one dancer where we had mutual chemistry go critial mass on our relationship and wanted more. GF's of wife tell her I look great. I agree with warrier a personality such as a confident attitude, good humor, etc. is more important than looks and overcomes any deficiency but you still need to get in the front door. SB's are generally more discriminating than dancers for looks and many are looking for the experience and fufilling a fantasy.
I dunno...maybe an 8.5
Upright, thanks for answering the other half of the question. Agree totally with the other comments about confidence, humor etc. On SA, did you post a picture? I’m mostly curious...in the same boat on marriage situation.
I’m a 3, but my wallet makes me a 10. At least that’s what all the strippers and sa chicks say I am
My guess is, many of the girls looking for "good looking" SDs are looking for much younger guys than me, if they're serious about what they wrote. I have no idea either way, I message those girls anyway. I assume some of the girls who don't write back, saw my age and that was enough.
There are a few things in women's profiles that don't mean a whole lot. For example, I'm a vocal proponent of completely ignoring her Lifestyle Expectation -- too many High and Substantial girls have accepted my piddling Minimal-level offers, for me to take lifestyle expectation seriously anymore. I mean, perhaps when the girl checked High, she was fantasizing about it, but once she saw what was out there, I was looking pretty good LOL. I think it's the same with girls who mention "good looking" SDs; perhaps they meant it or fantasized about it when they wrote their profile, but after they get a dose of what's out there on SA, they seem to happily settle for me :)
There ARE things that scare me away from profiles -- girls who post big negative rants, girls who say things like "I know my worth", girls who specify a particular political bent (regardless of what that bent is) because they can't hold a conversation with someone who doesn't agree with them, etc. But things like Lifestyle Expectation, descriptions of how handsome their SD should be, descriptions of what kinds of outdoorsy activities and adventures their SD should be into -- ignore ignore ignore
Like #Justme62, I'm an old fart also
-->"On SA, did you post a picture? I’m mostly curious...in the same boat on marriage situation."
Pictures of me, just from the neck down, in my public pics. Face pics in my private pics -- and I have a hard policy not to unlock my private pics until we exchange a couple of messages first, so at least I'm vaguely assured it's a real person.
I've never used SA or any other social network. I can only compare myself to men in my age bracket. I'm 76 with a full head of hair, don't wear glasses but have a bit of a belly. I'm told by many people that I do not look my age. So I'm going to say an 8.
At 73 and in good shape, but still a 5 until I open my wallet........Then a 9 !!!!! Something about dead statesmen that change the rating system !!!
Women are actually pretty harsh in their judgment of mens appearance: theblog.okcupid.com
If you find the ok cupid stats interesting look up the stuff they have posted about race.
No face pics in public profile
@shadow and @etsut and whoever else here is in their 70s: Love your enthusiasm and attitude. I hope I'm still going that strong in 20 years at that age. I honestly have no idea how I'd rate. Don't want to know and don't care. I don't spend time obsessing over things I can't control. Ever since my marriage fell apart a few years ago and I found myself with extra time, I began working out aggressively (before that I only worked out occasionally) -- like almost every day for a couple hours, and the results have been tremendous. I've lost a lot of weight and feel healthier. Mentally, it's done wonders for my self-esteem at a time in life when I don't have a lot to be happy about. It would seem to me that even men who don't look like Tom Cruise can improve their desirability to women with good hygiene and grooming (Ron Jeremy continues to defy logic in this sense), the way they dress and the confidence they display (without being arrogant and cocky). Having money doesn't hurt, either.
I've thought about this question on my own from time to time.
I'm gonna give myself a reasonable rating and say I'm a low 8. I'm far from being in that fantastic shape that I'd like to be in but if I were to achieve that one day, I think I'd be able to hit high 8
There's nothing quite as goofy as the average guy who pays for sex and brags online about how irresistible they are. I call that "RickDugan syndrome."
My own experience with SA goes back about 2.5 yrs and 10 SBs. They've all been students in the range of 19-24 yrs old. SA is not a dating website; any good-looking 20-yr-old can sleep with a male-model by casting a flirtatious glance at a bar or supermarket. There's some minimal level of physical attraction necessary in the sugaring world, but by-and-large these girls are looking for money. College expenses are crushing for most of these girls, even the ones from affluent backgrounds.
I tried SA and had no luck. I posted my real photos and my real age. Did that have something to do with it?
This is a very good discussion topic. It’s very difficult to provide an honest view of ones looks. I’m in my early 50’s - and I’m in good shape - so I’d rate myself at a 6.
A lot of sugar-baby profiles on SA will have something along the lines of "seeking a mature, wealthy, good-looking SD."
I'll respond back and ask if she'll settle for 2 out of 3. Most will "lol" back, and say yes, as long as one of them is wealthy.
Some great answers and tips fellows. I haven’t waded into the pool but am grateful for the insight. The photo info is helpful too. If I start, I will need to learn more about how to use the profile settings. Right now, I have just enough there to let me browse the girl’s public profile. I can’t read or send messages yet.
“The photo info is helpful too”
Umm, yes, your avatar photo may not be the best to use
It will be interesting to see how SA changes or if it will survive under SESTA/FOSTA. You can expect men, who formally used Backpage or reviewed escorts, to converge on SA. Also escorts and Backpage girls will try to re-market themselves as SBs. If any trafficking does occur on SA, and some district attorney wants to make a big deal out it, it may just not be worth the litigation expense for SA to stay in business.
I am not good looking but I clean up well and carry myself well. The dancers I see claim they prefer this to straight up good looks. I know much of that is SS but a few insist it Is true. Dressed for one of our evenings out, they get to show off their successful sugar daddy. A few have also complained that handsome guys think that handsome is enough and don't show the proper appreciation to a young beautiful woman.
I'm too ooogly for the 1-10 scale
I cant can't even call myself ugly because I offend ugly people by trying to join their camp. I'm ooogly. Need my own word...
I’ve been told by non-strippers, i.e., wife’s friends, and even one of my daughter’s friends, that my face is “handsome”. I personally don’t see it when I look in the mirror. To me, I’m a 5, at best.
^^I wondered who would be the first to humble-brag on this topic. Good job!
^^^ It’s a dirty job, but somebody had to do it.
-->"It will be interesting to see how SA changes or if it will survive under SESTA/FOSTA. You can expect men, who formally used Backpage or reviewed escorts, to converge on SA. Also escorts and Backpage girls will try to re-market themselves as SBs. If any trafficking does occur on SA, and some district attorney wants to make a big deal out it, it may just not be worth the litigation expense for SA to stay in business."
I'm expecting escorts and escort-clients to converge on SA for sure. I'm not very up on SESTA/FOSTA, but was under the impression that SA might actually be hosted offshore... was hoping that the whole damn company was offshore and out of reach. Wishful thinking?
USA Sex Guide is hosted offshore, and in a jurisdiction where prostitution is legal. At least according to the site admin.
Yah, I've seen at least one other that said "we're offshore, we're staying up". But, besides tuscl, most of the sites I check most often are gone (hopefully revamping to offshore hosting and starting back up)
I excersise and stay in decent shape (currently 6 pounds heavier than I was in high school) and I’m almost half the age of a lot of guys on here.
Still I can’t see what most 20 year olds would find attractive in me when they can easily be with guys closer to their age. Maturity? Money? Still when I take off my clothes, no way in hell I can compare to my 20 year old former self, so face it, they just want in my wallet.
Now to a 35 or 40 year old Sugar Baby I may a rich stud just like Ricky D.
This question should be reworded - on a scale of 1-10 - 1 being lowest 10 being the highest - “how repulsive are you to a 20 year old Sugar Baby?”
This question should be reworded - on a scale of 1-10 - 1 being lowest 10 being the highest - “how repulsive are you to a 20 year old Sugar Baby?”
^^LOL
I don’t know if you guys are looking at it the same as a SB see us. I am in reasonably good shape, mid 60s and I meet women often, certain types of women find me attractive enough to enjoy my company both out and about, and in the sack. For them I am forever grateful, whatever their motivation is. I only care as far as it affects my ability’s to meet and enjoy women that I find attractive. The rest is really not interesting to me.
I'm a fugly 2.5 at best. I'm also in constant amazement at the fine young talent willing to do nakey time for what I consider an insignificant amount of money.
When a women says she wants a confident dude, she not talking about ordering food in a restaurant. She's talking about a dude with the balls to ask for the vjay.
building on lone wolf's comments
More than a few ladies have told me the reason they went with me and not some other dude is I asked. He was too much of a pussy to ask. I wasn't. Other guys will drop hints or suggestions and the dancers don't have time for that. They often don't know if the guy is talking about a civilian date, a paid date or some fantasy he has.
I've always been told I have a great face for radio
I'm a '1' - if u take my penis into account then a 0.5
I can't imagine being 70 years old like some of us here and having these dancers all over me like I'm some kind of stud. I know then that they are purely after the money. When you're younger (and I'm sure some of us here started SCing early), you at least maybe get the feeling (i.e fantasy) that the dancers like you for your looks and whatnot
^^I harbour no illusions of grandeur. Been to a few clubs. HK is the only one in which I’ve engaged in significant physical contact with women. I know they only want my money. I enjoy the attention they shower me with and don’t care what they think of me.
^
Which is probably a great way to be able to enjoy SCs for a long time without getting worn out
Great comments. I may be trying to differentiate the SC experience from The SA experience. Could be a false premise but I think that the girls doing true Sugaring may, emphasis may, care a bit more about looks, personality, charisma etc.
"..but I think that the girls doing true Sugaring may, emphasis may, care a bit more about looks, personality, charisma etc."
If you're talking about college students, I think you're way off track.
The most common complaint from SBs is that barely 10% of SD's are there to provide reliable financial support. Too many men seeking cheap or free sex; too many guys who can't really afford it. Yes they care about being safe, but this stuff about looks, personality, charisma is mostly laughable.
College costs are impossible. These days you can either be (1)born into a wealthy family or (2) you can be female and be born with attractive genes. Everyone else is stuck with huge student loans.
Random, glad I could make you almost laugh. You seem like a really intelligent guy, and generally you have some good points, but I’ll be damned if you aren’t condescending as hell.
Thanks man!
Anytime...
And I don’t know shit about SA. just thinking about it.
I'm being an asshole, @Bubba.
But seriously, if you live near a major metro area I think you would really like SA. You have the right kind of personality based on your posts.
No worries, I can take it ....and dish it out. I’m thinking it might be a good potential if I desire or need a change from the excellent OTC situation I’ve enjoyed the last couple of years.
I live in Atlanta with two large universities within 25 miles. The postings I’ve browsed are impressive. Based on your posts I’m guessing we have similar tastes though I’ve not explored the Asian girls. Very rare here.
A dancer told that if a stripper tongue kisses you without you asking then she thinks you are attractive.
So if that hasnt happened to you, your probably an aversge looking dude.
4 or 5