Your Education
BurlingtonHoFactory
New Jersey, near the Shore
This is more than a little off-topic, but I was wondering what kind of educational backgrounds you guys have. I think we've assembled here a fairly successful bunch of guys... who pay for sex. I've always wondered about the correlation between education and success. But I'm much more interested in the correlation between education and paying for pussy.
So how far did you get in school? And did you go to public or private schools as a kid?
If you went to college, what was your major? Liberal arts? Science? Engineering? Business? Social science? Musical theater?
Also, what kind of a college was it? Community college? Ivy league? A State college? A Top-20 school (of which there are now at least 40 or 50)?
For those who went on to get a professional graduate degree (law, business, medicine, etc.), did you end up working in that field after graduation?
As for me, I have a Bachelor's degree in business/finance, administered by an economics department, at a lowly city university. And I went to crappy public schools as a kid... so I'm mostly self-educated. But, of course, I like to think I got my real education from TUSCL.
So how far did you get in school? And did you go to public or private schools as a kid?
If you went to college, what was your major? Liberal arts? Science? Engineering? Business? Social science? Musical theater?
Also, what kind of a college was it? Community college? Ivy league? A State college? A Top-20 school (of which there are now at least 40 or 50)?
For those who went on to get a professional graduate degree (law, business, medicine, etc.), did you end up working in that field after graduation?
As for me, I have a Bachelor's degree in business/finance, administered by an economics department, at a lowly city university. And I went to crappy public schools as a kid... so I'm mostly self-educated. But, of course, I like to think I got my real education from TUSCL.
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But I have a T-shirt that says I’m no gynecologist but I’ll take a look.
I was also trained as a medic, nurse, salesperson, and pizza shop manager when I was younger.
I'm always impressed by the engineers. That shit must be difficult. Did you study engineering as an undergrad, too?
Does that mean you really graduated or that you never attended?
As long as you went to skool, you can still claim to be edumacated. What did you pretend to study? ;)
Is that undergraduate or postgrad? Were you trying to become a CPA?
Just curious.
Master's paid for by full scholarship.
What did you study? Was it an academic scholarship or an athletic thing?
Yeah, I've met a few engineers and most of them seem to conform to the nerdy aspergery stereotypes, but I'm working off of a small sample size, too.
Based on your answer, should I assume that you have an MBA? Seems like a lot of engineers go on to get MBAs. What did you study as an undergrad?
I work with a lot of engineers. Most, not all, think or see things very differently than most people. It is probably why they are engineers. More often than not, they want to offer pricy, extreme and over developed solutions to the simplest of problems. They also have a very hard time explaining things without getting over-technical or without realizing their audience wants a down to earth and simplified explanation. I've experienced a lack of common sense with a lot of engineers too. As an example, a structural engineer will suggest putting a new steel building column smack dab in the middle of a hallway rather than oversize a new beam that will be hidden above ceilings that could span a further distance. When you try to explain to them that people wouldn't be able to use the hallway then, they'll look at you like a deer in headlights. Funny stuff like that.
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My drawings are fucking tight though!
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Wow, you went all the way to the UK to casually study just for the hell of it after you retired? Do you have family there? Had you ever lived there before? I'm just curious.
Well, even though it was founded by a bunch of communists, LSE still sounds very impressive to me. Were you given some kind of a fellowship to study there? What subject did you study as an undergrad here in the States before you got your MBA?
What subject did you get your BS in?
I then went to a top 5 engineering school for my discipline and graduated with a B.S.
After a semester of grad school I got sick of school and went to work as an engineer instead of completing my masters.
To answer your original thesis, there is definitely a correlation between high intelligence / academic success and lack of ability to get civilian women into bed. It is believed that Isaac Newton was a virgin until death, and he was one of the most highly accomplished thinkers in history.
That's interesting, I had no idea. I know he changed the world and whatnot, but somehow getting a little poon once in a while still seems more important to me.
I use the business degrees in my life as a mid tier manager in the finance industry.
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Yeah, nowadays skilled tradesmen can certainly afford to pay for strippers.
But either way, the traditional liberal arts seem to be taking it on the chin.
Maybe skilled tradesmen can also get laid for free - ok, maybe not with strippers, but still, free is free. Don't all milfs fantasize about hunky handimen and hot landscapers?
I developed financial modeling software that one of the largest computer manufacturers purchased to run their financial services unit. For the past 8 years I’ve been working in banking so I can keep out of trouble - as I know I’d be a mess if I retired in my late 40’s.
BSEE and MBA
....and yes plenty of skilled trades made very good money if you want to put the overtime in. I work pretty close with skilled trades as part of my job.
Thats enough I am comfortable sharing.
Was that the thesis in the OP? Was there a thesis in the OP?
My original thought was that most of the people here were probably 'thinkers' rather than 'doers.' Not that there's anything wrong with that. I assumed I would get a lot of people claiming a traditional academic type of background because, I figured, these would be the kinds of guys who might have a hard time talking to women and would end up paying for cooze. I was totally 100% wrong. Now I see that almost everyone here is a 'doer.' Whether they're engineering nerds or not, they can all afford to pay for their cooze. So far, literally everyone here who has a degree, claims to have studied business, engineering, math, science, computers, or something related. It wasn't what I was expecting, but in retrospect it makes perfect sense: a nerd who can afford to pay will go a lot further than a nerd who can't.
Me too. I'm always shitting on education, and I still believe that most people don't have the aptitude to learn much more than how to read and count... but being a student wasn't so bad. At least that was my experience with it.
"I did use my degree in civi work, but not for the corporate world, which was my education focus."
What did you use it for?
You mean like a social worker?
That's what the committee thought, too, during my candidacy exams at Caltech. But they let me though anyway out of sympathy and finished my PhD on time. Caltech has the highest number of Nobel Prize winners, per capita, in the country and probably the world. Richard Feynman is their most beloved professor, known for being a strip club monger and painting portraits of nude girls.
Interesting. How many degrees do you have and what did you study?
Anyway, does anyone know what kind of education SJG had? LOL
My brother was TUSCL member FarmerArt. Art finished high school when he was 15 and immediately went to work in the oil industry. Over the years he acquired 3 trade tickets and made himself competent in 3 other skilled trades. He started his own company, built it to a great value, and died a very rich man. He was definitely a 'doer'. During his life he read so many books that he educated himself to what I think was a post-graduate degree level.
I went the academic education route. I have a BA and MA in history. I completed my PhD thesis but when time came to present it for discussion, argument, and defense I completely turtled. I have never had any job that made use of my academic education. My lifetime job? Letter carrier at the Post Office.
My education did teach me to think, to do research, and it gave me broad knowledge about many subjects. It also made me a curious man. All these traits made me a successful investor. I retired with comfortable income from my investments, an income much greater than my measly post office pension. I really had no need of the inheritance that I received from my brother Art.
Two brothers, two years apart in age, two different education stories. One brother a strip club hound, one brother not.
bachelors in comp sci from 2nd tier state school on 105% scholarship (academic; yes, I had money left over each semester), masters in math from 2nd tier state school in a different state, lots of other graduate courses in comp sci, math, business from various schools including a "mini-MBA" from a top state tech school
Have used it all, in one way or another, entire professional life.
Some states allow people above a certain age to take classes at state universities for free. I'd like to do that someday and take classes in areas like history, anthropology, philosophy, etc
MS in Computer science and Engineering from San Jose State University
Private college--Business---Banking and Finance
Private College-- Project Management Certification and Masters Degree
Started Law School but got very tired of it early on and also realized I had enough debt after 4 years..........
I'm an IT guy as well----when I finished my four years--banks paid squat and ended up moving into technology.
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@BHF: I think there’s another correlation with what you call “doers”. They tend to have a somewhat less than towering respect for rules set by other people. The other group that tends that way is geniuses.
The other types tend to obey rules more, whether out of fear, respect, a desire to conform, or feelings of societal or philosophical obligation.
There are plenty of exceptions all around, of course. I’ve made very broad generalizations based on my own individual observations.
Top-20 business college-BS in Business Management
During my first semester in school I was contacted by one of the alphabet agencies for a job but turned it down. They called again during my second semester and since I was already tired of selling my blood plasma in order to eat, I took them up on their offer. Within a couple of years I was able to save enough money to finish my degree so I quit and finished college without any debt.
From what I've read in the past (and based on your description) your brother seems like a cool guy. Unfortunately I never got to meet or communicate with him. But he's part of the pantheon of TUSCL lore now. And you're right, I think he epitomizes the spirit of the doers.
Yeah. I regret my entire education, too. If I had it to do over, I probably would have majored in history, as well. To me, there's nothing more useless and flaky than an undergrad business degree (which I basically have, although almost all of my teachers were econ professors). I believe it's something that can't be taught in a classroom, beyond a few key concepts. And it makes a mockery of a college education.
Finally! Someone admits to having studied standard academic subjects in school. And I think you're both doers, too, so at least it shows that it's possible. I was beginning to think that colleges didn't teach anything other than engineering, math, computers, and business - at least to the male students ;)
Totally agree. You can't make shit happen by always following the rules and doing as you're told. (Also, you wouldn't be able to pay for sex if you went that route either.)
Alphabet agencies? You mean like national security or like a New Deal era department? (I'm guessing the latter, because if you were Jason Bourne you probably wouldn't have just blown your cover on a titty bar message board, right?)
When I was hired, I was told to tell my friends I worked as a manager for Jack In The Box. For real. It explained my weird hours AND nobody cares about a fast-food manager, so the questions always stopped in short order as if they felt bad for my career choice.
I wasn't Jason Bourne.
Not a day goes by that I don't think about some of the work I did there, nor do I have any regrets.
Wow. That's pretty intense. So then, if you and your coworkers were able to make it through the screening process despite the drugs, drinking, and whoring, what kind of a past would actually be considered disqualifying?
I never drank, went to strip clubs, or tried any drug before I was in my early 30's, so I was totally clean when I worked for the agency. My only weakness and vice was and is women; please send your hot lady spies to seduce me!
Debt free (worked as bartender to pay bills and tuition ) Retiring at 60 with future secured. Did a lot of "doing" to get where I got paid to think "think". It is easier than i thought.
I think I know what you mean. I wish I could get paid to think, because I think I'm better at thinking than I am at doing. But it takes a lot of doing and a lot of thinking to make a career out of thinking for a living. But then, it probably also takes a lot of thinking and a lot of doing to be a successful doer. Because all good doers have to think, and all good thinkers have to do, even if all they do... is think. I think.
Thanks. Sometimes I reread what I wrote and it looks like a ton of words on a phone, but then it looks much smaller on a computer screen. It's usually just a three or four sentences. Still, people have shit to do and they can't always be bothered to read what I wrote. Especially doers ;)
First college attempt was a private college, did 2 years into chemical engineering degree, though half of the classes I took were comp-sci classes, out of interest. Dropped out.
2nd college attempt was public college, salvaged half of the engineering classes into a BS in Physics and also did a full major in BS in Computer Science. Got a MS in Computer Science from public college all through tuition reimbursement through work and some extra $$ on my own. No loans. All cash.
@BHF said: "Musical theater?"
No, but the closest to that was I was accept to Julliard in NY but obviously didn't go. If you can't tell most of my life is spent with me in a vain attempt to NOT end up broke. So much so that I might be tad manic about it, lol.
That's interesting - my dad went to Juilliard as a pianist, but he dropped out shortly afterwards.
@BHF, music performance is pretty competitive for very few seats.