I have never been a fan of high heels. I can't recall if I have ever seen a Dancer on stage without high heels, for over 30 years. Many, if not all Dancer high heels look more like 70's platform shoes, not a nice pair of pair of dress stilettos. I know this is probably for safety reasons. They need heels that can withstand many dances. But why not change the paradigm with something different?
Probably because high heels make their asses stick out. For all the concern among white girls about their asses looking too big, they still wear heels because it makes them look good... they just don't seem to know exactly why. It's like a subconscious societal thing. They used to wear bustles in the nineteenth century for the same reason.
I have given this some thought. I would agree with you SebHenley that I hate the platform shoes.
I think it comes down to most men's perception of height. If you line up a bunch of girls and ask men to pick the most attractive they tend to choose the tallest. However a lot of that is to do with the feeling of status and women as possessions or trophies. I think if you put a guy on a deserted island where status is irrelevant the preference for taller would go away and a guy would want a girl there he would pick someone 2-4 inches shorter than himself.
That 2-4 inch height difference (girl shorter than guy) is exactly what the vast majority of women want as well. And I think this is one of the reasons the strip club environment is not conducive to female bonding.
just to make their legs look longer and sexier. also as Burlington mentioned, to make ass stick out.
I am a high heel fetish man, but not for platform high heel. I always ask my girlfriend to wear high heels when having sex.
-->"just to make their legs look longer and sexier. also as Burlington mentioned, to make ass stick out. "
That is it in a nutshell. The vast majority of men and women, think women with long shapely legs are hotter than women with short legs, and the overall posture forced by high heels pretty much ticks all the boxes. Women just look waaaaay sexier in heels.
Now, in the VIP, my favorite moment is when they take off their heels and they only come up to my chin. From far away, I love the shapeliness of a woman in heels. Up close, I love when she's much tinier than me
The platforms are not to make her taller, it’s to make her legs looks longer on stage, since being up there makes them look oddly short, bc of the angle.
I’ve seen a few strippers wear chucks on stage to go with their school girl or baseball outfit (baseball cap and jersey and boy shorts).
Putting sexy stripper heels on an average stripper is just like someone putting expensive good looking wheels on an average or crappy car. Always makes it look better than it did before.
I saw a dancer wearing army boots many years ago. She actually apologized. I was wondering if I would have noticed if she hadn't said anything. I might have. Didn't bother me one bit though. I saw one dancer wearing high heels that lit up and changed colors. I could not help but noticing those shoes. I tend to wear shoes for many years if still work ok and are comfortable. If she was barefoot on stage or wearing regular shoes, wouldn't bother me.
For me this question is like why to guys have to wear ties for formal occasions? I do not like ties or suits. I get hot easy. Yet we still have this stupid custom based on hundreds of years ago. I probably have Viking blood in me and am more suited to cold Canadian air rather than 80 degree heat in the winter or 100 degree heat and high humidity in the summer. I currently have my air conditioning on and am thinking about turning it down because I'm a bit too warm. 72 feels hot inside the house. Had it in the 60's for weeks.
Well, it's definitely not to make themselves look taller. Studies indicate that women prefer men who are 2 to 6 inches taller than they are, but I don't think there's any equivalent studies showing that men want a woman who's taller than themselves.
I'm 6'4" so there's no such thing as a woman who's too tall for me, but it seems that lots of short dudes go to strip clubs. And they probably don't necessarily want to see a towering Amazon on stage. So I'm sure it's the ass thing.
Also, @orionsmith, I could be wrong, but I think men wear suits to make their shoulders and chest look broader, and therefore more mature and less like a teenager. I think that's where the trend came from.
I am a big fan of keeping women in high heels and makeup.
Now like in the mundane work place, it is a waste. They should not have to do it for that much time of a day, or at least that much time on their feet. But it is an incredible turn on, the girl dressed for sex. It takes it all out of the mundane realm. I watch them and see the colors in their faces and I can feel the passions waiting to be brought to the surface, I feel them throughout my entire lower body.
Total nudity is like a nudist camp, one of the most boring kinds of places in the world.
From what I’ve heard - every stripper is assigned a pair of clear plastic platforms in basic stripper training. They can not lose those heels - or they lose their stripping license.
I love dirty looking dancers in stripper shoes - as the platforms complete the look perfectly. If a stripper wore a classy set of expensive heels - I’d wonder if I was in the wrong club!
I love it when the dancer takes off her platforms and I see her actual height. I’m 6’4” - and the dancers always look tiny.
I'm sure it's not because they want to make their legs look longer on stage... otherwise, why would hookers wear high heels out on the street? And why would celebrities wear them on the red carpet? Or how about just the average civilian chick who's looking to suck some dick after a night out? They all usually wear high heels, too
I guess I don't really care for this, the song being one of my favorite for learning keyboards. Hers is a rather standard jazz adaptation, but I don't like it. I like the song as it is usually played and intended. So I'm not offended and I am not saying that she is wrong. I just don't really care for it.
I think the stripper stilts they wear are kinda silly. Ya know the ones that make her look like she's 7 inches taller than she actually is. But basic 4 inch heels make a woman's butt and legs look better. I actually like to have sex with them with those high heels still on. Doing it stand up doggy puts her at the perfect height.
It's like I told one newly hired cocktail waitress at the Pink Poodle, she did not like the idea of dancing, didn't want to do it.
"So you don't like that idea of being up there, showing your everything?"
"Well that's what it is, showing, not dancing."
So I explained, "Well those girls are not naked. They are impeccably dressed for showing pussy. They're in high heels and makeup."
Her attitude started to soften.
All the feminine accoutrements come to us from the ancient world's pagan temples. That's why it is true that when one is exposed to this, they do feel Deja Vu.
^^^^^ Oh yes it certainly was. She was a newly hired and on duty cocktail waitress at the San Jose Pink Poodle, nude, no alcohol, only need to be 18yo. She was not much more than 18yo.
At our clubs lots of girls hire on as cocktail waitresses, not really feeling so good about the idea of dancing.
AFAIK most clubs require the dancers to wear them - I think it's b/c it's supposed to accentuate their figure as others have mentioned.
I also think being taller sorta makes them stand-out more - kinda like many models are tall and are expected to be tall - something about looking tall is supposed to be better in some way.
On my first night dancing, my heel broke while I was walking to my second stage in my set. You know where you see a girl walking in her heels and her ankle just folds in and she crumples as if she stepped into a hole? That was me. Anyway, I was escorting from the floor because apparently in Dallas, there is an entire law that says if I am nude on stage then I have to at least have on shoes.
Why do they have to be stripper shoes though? Because the world likes to see us struggle.
On the height issue, I've haven't had a customer tell me that I was too tall. I am about 5'6 without my heels so while I am working I am around 6 foot. If I am standing up with a customer that is shorter than 5'9 then it is the perfect height for my boobs to be in their faces. Guys haven't told me to get my boobs out of their face yet.
Looking for the height, and looking for the straps which will make sure they stay on.
I have lots of experience doing erotic photo sessions with women. I make sure the shoes stay in the frame, with the poses.
Shoes off, that would be after the first couple of rounds, when it is time to get into the hot tub, or the shower to clean up from anal. Otherwise the shoes stay on.
Amelia reminded me of an interesting law in South Carolina that a dancer friend told me about. To be nude in a public area, a dancer must wear shoes of some kind, otherwise it can be construed as a violation of prostitution ordinances. I’m sure the same Victorian laws are still in effect elsewhere as well. Not totally germane to the topic at hand, but still an interesting nugget.
I once asked a dancer if it would be nice if she could wear tennis shoes instead of the high heels and therefore look more like the girl next door. She replied that she didn't want to look like the girl next door.
Gmoney24 said, "To be nude in a public area, a dancer must wear shoes of some kind, otherwise it can be construed as a violation of prostitution ordinances."
Ahhh.. that make sense. I was at a club in Austin where the girl had really nice feet. She allowed me to rub her feet but she had to keep her shoes on the entire time.
Some of the clubs I attend have a good number of short customers. I wonder if the dancers are more aware of their heels when they get off stage? Men usually want to appear taller than the girl?
In high heels and makeup she is dressed for showing herself to me, deliberately. And that is a huge turn on. And even more so when she is doing it in front of other people.
But just naked? No, that's like a nudist camp, a very boring and un-erotic place.
I have seen a few who don't wear heels. Most have been in dives, where the main reason is the dancer doesn't like heals. In the more "upscale" clubs while it's still mostly the dancer doesn't like heals, for a few it's because they are very tall.
It improves the look of her overall physique. Standing in stilettos makes your ass and thigh muscles tighten, makes your legs look better, and also helps somewhat to suck in the stomach and improves posture.
In high heels and makeup, the girl is not merely naked. She is dressed to show herself. That is a huge difference. And I do not see it as applying much between women. Its when women are showing themselves to men.
SJG
FBI using a different def'n of rape. Not sure what to make of this.
"For more than eight decades, the FBI classified “forcible rape” as “the carnal knowledge of a female forcibly and against her will.” In 2013, it reclassified the crime as “penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim.” Naturally, that broadened the scope of the crime. The FBI estimated that the old terminology excluded 40 percent of rapes."
Brings back memories, of when decades ago I was in Portland, unexpected time spent in a little bar which had a stage added, as I found throughout Portland. And this was back when strip clubs were just for looking.
Asian American girl, and I was loving her. And what was she wearing? Nothing but high heels and makeup.
Without the high heels and makeup it would not have been that much fun. Real nudity is boring. But with high heels and makeup she is dressed for showing herself to me. And I was loving it.
Just a little addendum to the above, people have asked before about how important it is that the skin level of a strip club go all the way to nude.
Undress is a turn on when it is not expected, like a short skirt, revealing top or topless. And I speak from being in a county with only two nude strip clubs, and thinking about that time in Portland with the Chinese American girl, quickly taking her robe off to be in just high heels and makeup.
High heels and makeup are very important, but in a strip club, being mostly visual, it is very important that they also go all the way to nude. Showing pussy is very important. High heels and makeup are the perfect attire for that.
So nude strip clubs, meaning nothing but high heels and makeup, are very important. Little bit of jewelry can be good too.
also good music to program into a sequencer. But I would still say this has to be by hand playing, not by typing in text. Otherwise it would sound mechanical.
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I think it comes down to most men's perception of height. If you line up a bunch of girls and ask men to pick the most attractive they tend to choose the tallest. However a lot of that is to do with the feeling of status and women as possessions or trophies. I think if you put a guy on a deserted island where status is irrelevant the preference for taller would go away and a guy would want a girl there he would pick someone 2-4 inches shorter than himself.
That 2-4 inch height difference (girl shorter than guy) is exactly what the vast majority of women want as well. And I think this is one of the reasons the strip club environment is not conducive to female bonding.
I am a high heel fetish man, but not for platform high heel. I always ask my girlfriend to wear high heels when having sex.
-->"just to make their legs look longer and sexier. also as Burlington mentioned, to make ass stick out. "
That is it in a nutshell. The vast majority of men and women, think women with long shapely legs are hotter than women with short legs, and the overall posture forced by high heels pretty much ticks all the boxes. Women just look waaaaay sexier in heels.
Now, in the VIP, my favorite moment is when they take off their heels and they only come up to my chin. From far away, I love the shapeliness of a woman in heels. Up close, I love when she's much tinier than me
This is a good question because practically every stripper I’ve ever seen wears high heels.
I think I would definitely prefer them wearing high heels than say like regular shoes.
Putting sexy stripper heels on an average stripper is just like someone putting expensive good looking wheels on an average or crappy car. Always makes it look better than it did before.
Also, muk luks would get pretty sweaty.
For me this question is like why to guys have to wear ties for formal occasions? I do not like ties or suits. I get hot easy. Yet we still have this stupid custom based on hundreds of years ago. I probably have Viking blood in me and am more suited to cold Canadian air rather than 80 degree heat in the winter or 100 degree heat and high humidity in the summer. I currently have my air conditioning on and am thinking about turning it down because I'm a bit too warm. 72 feels hot inside the house. Had it in the 60's for weeks.
I'm 6'4" so there's no such thing as a woman who's too tall for me, but it seems that lots of short dudes go to strip clubs. And they probably don't necessarily want to see a towering Amazon on stage. So I'm sure it's the ass thing.
Also, @orionsmith, I could be wrong, but I think men wear suits to make their shoulders and chest look broader, and therefore more mature and less like a teenager. I think that's where the trend came from.
Now like in the mundane work place, it is a waste. They should not have to do it for that much time of a day, or at least that much time on their feet. But it is an incredible turn on, the girl dressed for sex. It takes it all out of the mundane realm. I watch them and see the colors in their faces and I can feel the passions waiting to be brought to the surface, I feel them throughout my entire lower body.
Total nudity is like a nudist camp, one of the most boring kinds of places in the world.
SJG
I love dirty looking dancers in stripper shoes - as the platforms complete the look perfectly. If a stripper wore a classy set of expensive heels - I’d wonder if I was in the wrong club!
I love it when the dancer takes off her platforms and I see her actual height. I’m 6’4” - and the dancers always look tiny.
Some civilian girls might wear heels to look a little taller. They don’t want to appear tall, but they might want to stand out from the other girls.
I’m not one who has any idea why women wear what they do - so my insights aren’t very insightful.
SJG
Fergie Performs The U.S. National Anthem / 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5cOvyDp…
I guess I don't really care for this, the song being one of my favorite for learning keyboards. Hers is a rather standard jazz adaptation, but I don't like it. I like the song as it is usually played and intended. So I'm not offended and I am not saying that she is wrong. I just don't really care for it.
Runs from C to G an octave and a fifth above. More often runs from Bb to F.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M21tnQ8P…
Battle Hymn Of The Republic, restored as folk music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPbgTz9p…
John Brown's Body
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSSn3Ndd…
Miles Davis, Bitches Brew
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbCt-iXI…
"So you don't like that idea of being up there, showing your everything?"
"Well that's what it is, showing, not dancing."
So I explained, "Well those girls are not naked. They are impeccably dressed for showing pussy. They're in high heels and makeup."
Her attitude started to soften.
All the feminine accoutrements come to us from the ancient world's pagan temples. That's why it is true that when one is exposed to this, they do feel Deja Vu.
SJG
At our clubs lots of girls hire on as cocktail waitresses, not really feeling so good about the idea of dancing.
Often very fun to talk with.
SJG
I also think being taller sorta makes them stand-out more - kinda like many models are tall and are expected to be tall - something about looking tall is supposed to be better in some way.
SJG
Why do they have to be stripper shoes though? Because the world likes to see us struggle.
On the height issue, I've haven't had a customer tell me that I was too tall. I am about 5'6 without my heels so while I am working I am around 6 foot. If I am standing up with a customer that is shorter than 5'9 then it is the perfect height for my boobs to be in their faces. Guys haven't told me to get my boobs out of their face yet.
SJG
Looking for the height, and looking for the straps which will make sure they stay on.
I have lots of experience doing erotic photo sessions with women. I make sure the shoes stay in the frame, with the poses.
Shoes off, that would be after the first couple of rounds, when it is time to get into the hot tub, or the shower to clean up from anal. Otherwise the shoes stay on.
SJG
We used to say we were going to the ballet
Ahhh.. that make sense. I was at a club in Austin where the girl had really nice feet. She allowed me to rub her feet but she had to keep her shoes on the entire time.
I would think they could pose a risk depending on how strenuous their stage routine is and how much they do gymnastics with the pole ( landings)
But just naked? No, that's like a nudist camp, a very boring and un-erotic place.
SJG
Led Zeppelin, 1969 Danish TV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-WSbMW7…
https://glitterheels.com/collections/gli…
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SJG
FBI using a different def'n of rape. Not sure what to make of this.
"For more than eight decades, the FBI classified “forcible rape” as “the carnal knowledge of a female forcibly and against her will.” In 2013, it reclassified the crime as “penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim.” Naturally, that broadened the scope of the crime. The FBI estimated that the old terminology excluded 40 percent of rapes."
http://www.sanjoseinside.com/2018/02/21/…
Asian American girl, and I was loving her. And what was she wearing? Nothing but high heels and makeup.
Without the high heels and makeup it would not have been that much fun. Real nudity is boring. But with high heels and makeup she is dressed for showing herself to me. And I was loving it.
SJG
I like then in high heels and makeup because nudity is boring. In high heels and makeup she is dressed for showing herself to me.
SJG
Undress is a turn on when it is not expected, like a short skirt, revealing top or topless. And I speak from being in a county with only two nude strip clubs, and thinking about that time in Portland with the Chinese American girl, quickly taking her robe off to be in just high heels and makeup.
High heels and makeup are very important, but in a strip club, being mostly visual, it is very important that they also go all the way to nude. Showing pussy is very important. High heels and makeup are the perfect attire for that.
So nude strip clubs, meaning nothing but high heels and makeup, are very important. Little bit of jewelry can be good too.
SJG
Erik Satie: Gnossienne No. 1, 2, 3, not that difficult to play. You can tell that he has written it as three parts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUAF3abG…
made into two instruments:
http://www.music-scores.com/graphics/sa_…
clearly 3 piano parts
http://cdn.imslp.org/images/thumb/pdfs/6…
http://cdn.imslp.org/images/thumb/pdfs/d…
also good music to program into a sequencer. But I would still say this has to be by hand playing, not by typing in text. Otherwise it would sound mechanical.
more Satie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pyhBJzu…
I believe that the French Rosicrucian Order AMORC makes much use of Satie and Debussy.