would you ever co sign a lease for a stripper
gentleman6555
New York
Anyway a couple weeks ago she got a bug up her ass about wanting to move. She wanted me to front her the cash and maybe co sign the lease because she's Russian and staying here on a Visa and doesn't have an SSN, credit history or decent income history. I'm married and not interested in putting my name on paper with her. Anyway she ended up getting this other guy, the "friend" to sign the lease and front some of the initial fees. The only problem is he doesn't want her to fuck other people at the new apartment. Which is kind of annoying for me. On top of it now she's asking for 2K up front for 8 meetings. I'm thinking I should just bail on the whole situation.
Anyway, would you guys ever sign a lease for a stripper?
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1. I wouldn’t even co-sign a lease for a close friend let alone a stripper especially if I was married.
2. We always talk about not paying upfront.
Sounds like this Russian is pretty hot and has PLs lining up to throw money at her. Like usual with girls like this you may be a big fish but there’s always a bigger one willing to pay more or do more for her than you, which greatly will inflate her ego and self worth.
I agree with your assessment - time to bail.
The short answer is what twentyfive said, no. Ain't gonna happen. There are maybe 1 or 2 strippers in my lifetime I'd consider putting up in a hotel without me for a day or two, and that's fucking pushing it.
I know a guy (unmarried) who leased an apartment for a stripper because she had no credit. The deal was that she would pay the rent and utilities, etc. He was only helping her to obtain a lease. Of course, she never paid the rent or utilities. The guy had to pay everything. He had to hire an attorney and take her to court to evict her. After she moved out the apartment management billed him for the damage she had done to the apartment.
When you co-sign it puts you at risk, and your credit is also at risk. Don’t do it!
Here is my suggestion, and take it for what it’s worth. Don’t co-sign. Let the other dude co-sign. If there is an other dude dumber - then let him take the risk. Don’t prepay for her arrangement either. Once she gets the apartment - don’t text her for several weeks - maybe even a month. She’s a stripper/otc escort - and money will run short when the rent is due. Just wait - and you will get a text - and the price won’t be $2k. It will be the shortfall in rent. So you will go from prepaying and co-signing - to properly priced Russian pussy...
I’m just debating fully ending the situation or seeing her in some hotels since her apt is off limits now. Yes she is hot and the sex has been bonkers at times but like Salty Nutz said it has gotten a little tamer.
Don’t worry about getting a hotel. Just wait a bit - and you will be fucking her in the apartment another guy has co-signed for. That apartment will become a filthy mess in a few months. The place will stink from smoke and bad pussy.
Her price will drop - and she will take on more clients. So fuck her more while she’s still in good shape. Because she will get used up quickly.
The whole thing is such a no-brainer that people are having trouble understanding why you're posting it, which should tell you the outsider view. To shift attention off the apartment: 0% chance it is anything but atrocious stupidity to pay her $2k up front for 8 promised sessions to happen later. I mean, you-deserve-to-be-ripped-off level stupidity. So, I would counsel bailing :) I might still see her if:
1. She'd continue to take the $250 (or whatever) as per-meeting
2. The per-meeting excitement remains awesome
3. You have your head on straight enough that proposals like "co-sign my lease" and "pay $2k up front" are instant no-brainers -- such no-brainers that you don't even give them a 2nd thought, much less post about them to get advice from the interwebs
I'm thinking you may still be failing test #3 ... and that test is pretty critical. You need to find someone who is less manipulative who you have a clearer head about.
Fucking her will leave the door open - for extortion and blackmail - if she runs low on money. Also - you could knock her up - and she could sue for child support.
If you want a mistress, then there are much better mistresses out there than this Russian chick. If nothing, when this blows up, and it will, your wife deserves get get screwed over by a much better other-woman than this Russian chick. Have some sense.
I'm still trying to figure out it is possible to construct a Venn diagram with a circle on the left, with someone of your means and success to even fund this, now on the right, with someone completely lacking life experience to see this is bad idea, period, full-stop, and with you, gentleman6555 in the center in the intersection point.
I mean, how?
Strippers and PLs. God I love them together.
NO
NOT
EVER
These chicks are in it for themselves and we are just an ends to a means, i.e. we don't owe them anything other than fair compensation for their services - and Russian chicks in particular are often smart and cutthroat and one needs to treat it like a business relationship b/c that is what it is to her - doesn't mean one can't enjoy it, just enjoy for what it is and it's often futile and counterproductive to make it something that it's not.
She seems to have you completely manipulated via her setting all the terms and you come across as if you don't have a choice nor any leverage in this - in short you are the customer and the one paying, so you set the rules not her if she wants your $$$, o/w you're paying for a headache vs a good time - you're the one paying so she should contour to your needs, not you contour to hers.
i.e. her $2k upfront demand is her treating you like a rag, and often times they don't follow thru with the services b/c other shit comes up and they need more $$$ or she just doesn't feel like following thru one she has your $$$.
And def possible "her friend" is her boyfriend anr you're paying for an apt for them to live in together.
And quite possible she's thru with you and wants t be set up with an apt and cash b/f bailing on you.
The great thing about apartment leases is that they don't report to the credit agencies on a monthly basis if rent is late so it doesn't hurt your credit. Let's say you sign the lease and she doesn't pay and you can't or don't want to pay. They go through the process of kicking her out. They then pursue her and you for back payments, fees, and damages. When threatening letters don't work, they get a default judgment for as much as they can and then their collection lawyer provides proof of the judgment and amount to the credit agencies.
At that point you will have a multiple-thousand dollar collection on your credit report for the next 7 years and it may stay on even if you pay all of it. You'll be able to keep it hidden from the wife until she wants a new minivan to carry around the little gentlemen and Hyundai Finance declines your request due to a collection stemming from a Russian Whore.
At that point you'll be paying yet again for housing where you're not welcome to stay.
I don't see the problems with saying no to the Russian.
I learned that sort of thing with a civilian who was royalty pissed that I would not cosign a car loan. And remember that this idea originated with the car dealer.
The next day I gave her money, $1k, and as a loan to be paid back.
Of course I never saw one dime of repayment. But I expected that.
She got her loan and really did not need that extra money. It was just the car dealer fucking with her head. And I lost $1k, but at least it made her feel better.
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I limp from skydiving with one. :)
Wasn't such a good idea.
I imagine that's not too-uncommon (hurting a leg or foot while trying to land)
HELL THE FUCK NO!
But I broke mine while kicking my own ass for jumping! :)
Seriously. not at all uncommon. When I went back to the jump shack the next week (on crutches with toe to knee cast) I would venture to say that well over half the jumpers there told me their story. One guy freaked me out. Picture this. He is sitting in a chair and says that it can be good for you. Follows that with, "I couldn't do this before.", as he reaches down and pulls his leg up, bending the knee the way it isn't suppose to flex, and kisses the front of his leg below the knee!
What could go wrong with putting yourself on the hook for probably at least 100k or more with someone with bad credit?
Only a moron would see no potential problem.
However if you are already a millionaire and the loan is peanuts to you, go for it.
I’m actually surprised more of you haven’t done it and had positive experiences. Lol.