You try a club you've never been to before. You've heard good things about it here on TUSCL. But it's a big letdown for you. What's the most common reason you've been disappointed? Too expensive? Too busy? Girls don't circulate? Low mileage? For me, it's not enough hot strippers, or none at all. It doesn't matter how great the dances are if there's nobody whose looks makes me want to part with $20.
I also think decor is of some importance. I don't especially like a super fancy place (because they usually have super fancy prices to match) but I do like clean and comfortable. I don't care how hot the dancer is, if the LD seats aren't comfortable or, worse, if they're so filthy that I'm afraid to sit on them, that's a real turn-off. It's also pretty common.
Obviously a lack of hot, available for dances, dancers is a huge problem. Clubs should adapt a variation of the 'fields of dreams ' mantra- "get the girls and they will come!" I'd like to add clubs that cut songs so short you know they're just ripping off their customers are hugely disappointing and rarely get my return business.
To answer your question, FONDL (why IS that so rare?) I think a LOT of people in this particular industry are the sort who don't apply a lot of businesslike, or even "decent," thinking to their livelihoods. They're stripping, or bartending at a strip club, partly merely because they didn't do very well at mortgage brokering or at daycare. Then they succeed without much effort, the money "hooks" em, and they keep at it despite lack of outgoing businesslike self-application.
Kind of like the kids I have to supervise at work. I regularly get 9 out of 10 losers (no say in hiring 'em, but I have to make 'em do the work and try to make 'em look good anyway!) and 1 out of 10 who "gets the concept." The concept that the other 9 don't "get" is, you do your best to FINISH OFF the job. Making a token effort doesn't count. Showing up (Woody Allen notwithstanding) alone is insufficient. And having stuffed 19 out of 100 envelopes does not mean you have gotten "close enough" to stuffing the remaining 81.
Clubs which I've gone to regularly all have one thing in common: whenever I went there someone went out of their way to make me feel welcome. Some of the places were big, some little. Some were expensive, some were cheap. Some were fancy, some weren't. Some had lots of gorgeous girls, some didn't. Some were high mileage, some weren't. But they were all friendly places where I always felt welcome. Why is that so rare?
I have to agree with FONDL here. Attitude is the premiere reason that anyone would make me want to come back to a club. Even if the club isn't going all that great - if someoene has taken the time to come and talk me up and make me feel welcome then I would return.
For example... I just recently went to a club in which there had been no real good reviews. I heard some people say that it had been improved upon and that it was a good club now... so I tried it. Now, I wasn't impressed with the amount of women and the overall looks present - but, the attitude of just one of the dancers was enough to make me want to return. I didn't check out much of the mileage as I was just checking things out, but I am sure that it could be a good place to hang out and have a good time.
With any business that deals with the public - there has to be some positive attitude. Without it, why would the public pick your place or service over someone else's? This doesn't really apply to any areas where there is only one club in the area since they obviously have the market covered.
Difficulty getting a dance is par for the course at a new place, so I'm not disappointed by it. In fact, the challenge is a main reason I like trying new clubs.
#1 for me is getting a "ROB" experience out of the starting blocks followed closely by too many fuglies, or inability to get a dance for whatever reason( too crowded, poor circulation, VIP hogs, etc). As for mileage, if it appears that mileage will likely be sorely lacking, I probably won't bother going to club in the 1st place!
it's definitely a lack of good dancers. Sometimes, especially when you go to a club you think is good based on reviews here, you tend to expect too much, and when expectations are too high, you are bound to be disappointed. I would say too expensive, but if I spot a club that appears to be too much here, I just skip it.
I'll definitely agree with lack of pretty dancers. Then comes prices that are too high. Other reasons might be con artists or rip off artists posing as dancers. I'm trying to remember back when I visited one club which I like now, why I didn't return for over 2 years. Perhaps it was because I didn't see anything better there than at the club I liked better. Plus I had a hard time enjoying the view because every single dancer seemed to be constantly popping up asking "wanna dance?" as if they were taking turns every minute. I would change seats and that didn't seem to help at all. That might have been after I returned to the club though.
A room full of stupid strippers will send me back to my vehicle in a hurry. A guy sitting alone at the bar should be a target for every dancer in the club. It amazes me that, more and more, I can sit in a club with a wallet full of cash and no one tries to get me to spend it. If I see someone who catches my eye I will approach them but it seems that the newer breed of dancers have missed the boat on stripper marketing 101
Agreed, biggest disapointment is when you can't get a dance, If I'm in that situation and there is nothing special that interests me (for a dance) I'll save the cash for my next club, but if there is soimething that I have to get in the couch dance room, I'll approach her at the tip rail and tell her I have to have a dance with her, generally the girls will then come right over to my table after their set.
The most COMMON disappointment I experience has GOT to be that the place ends up being a "locals" bar where the Whales monopolize the girls.
The girls "know" one or two or six guys there, and simply DON'T give me the time of day. Even if I do approach them myself (which is already a let-down to have to do) they don't come back to me, except maybe when the DJ harasses them or when the 2-for-1 is announced so they come by, do a dollars-for-song thing, then disappear to Poppa Whale or to Big Grandpa Chopper and his handlebar mustache.
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Kind of like the kids I have to supervise at work. I regularly get 9 out of 10 losers (no say in hiring 'em, but I have to make 'em do the work and try to make 'em look good anyway!) and 1 out of 10 who "gets the concept." The concept that the other 9 don't "get" is, you do your best to FINISH OFF the job. Making a token effort doesn't count. Showing up (Woody Allen notwithstanding) alone is insufficient. And having stuffed 19 out of 100 envelopes does not mean you have gotten "close enough" to stuffing the remaining 81.
For example... I just recently went to a club in which there had been no real good reviews. I heard some people say that it had been improved upon and that it was a good club now... so I tried it. Now, I wasn't impressed with the amount of women and the overall looks present - but, the attitude of just one of the dancers was enough to make me want to return. I didn't check out much of the mileage as I was just checking things out, but I am sure that it could be a good place to hang out and have a good time.
With any business that deals with the public - there has to be some positive attitude. Without it, why would the public pick your place or service over someone else's? This doesn't really apply to any areas where there is only one club in the area since they obviously have the market covered.
The most COMMON disappointment I experience has GOT to be that the place ends up being a "locals" bar where the Whales monopolize the girls.
The girls "know" one or two or six guys there, and simply DON'T give me the time of day. Even if I do approach them myself (which is already a let-down to have to do) they don't come back to me, except maybe when the DJ harasses them or when the 2-for-1 is announced so they come by, do a dollars-for-song thing, then disappear to Poppa Whale or to Big Grandpa Chopper and his handlebar mustache.