How do you handle a ROB?
elhuachinango
Washington
Story time and some questions. So last night I was at a new club I was trying out for the second time, and I had a sharable experience. I was there because on my first trip a solid 9 promissed me an hour in the champagne room for $200, which is the standard half hour rate. Normally I don’t do VIP, but this girl on the first night gave me 5 very high mileage dances for $100 instead of the $30 per dance they normally charge, and she asked me to spank her, but “not like a pussy”, which I took as a challenge and I’m pretty sure she woke up black and blue the next morning. I wad hooked.
But on my second visit she was chatting up another PL, so I went to the stage and met a very friendly 8 who let me play with her massive, perfect ass at the rail. This girl asks me for a dance, I ask her for prices, and she says $30 per dance or $200 for a half hour VIP. I ask her how the champagne room is, and she gave me a tour and rubbed up on me doggystyle through the pants and asked if I wanted to stay.
I might have gotten the room with her, but I decided to try my luck and said I wouldn’t pay that much just for dancing, but I could do $250 if she did FS, to which she said not itc, but that I could meet her after work. I agreed, but when I asked for her address she said she was staying with a friend and didn’t know it but I could follow her after work. Red flag 1. The she said if I paid her now I could get the VIP time and I could meet her after work at no charge. Red flag 2. I said no, I’ll pay you at your place, we can just chill. She said okay, but we should get a dance, otherwise how will I get you hot and bothered? I said yes to that because I wanted to test the waters since I was suspicious.
When we got to the booth I said “$30 for one dance, right?”. She said yes, I handed her the money, and to her credit it was one of the best dances I’ve ever had. Full contact, high energy, sucking tits, FIV. When the song was over she didn’t stop, just kept grinding away for about a half hour.
At that point I felt good about her and was really looking forward to closing time. Then the problems started. She suddenly says, okay that’s been about nine dances which is about $250”. I said I only asked for one dance and paid up front, so anything else was on her, and I thought she was just getting me worked up for later. Then she said I owed her because I didn’t ask her to stop. I said no, you’re trying to play me, she said no, pay me now and we can still meet later and tgat she had to cover her booth fee for 9 dances, which I called bs on since I know the club charges her per trip, not prr dance. Finally she said I was ripping her off, and I said sorry but I asked for one dance, paid up front, and she never asked if I wanted to pay for more.
She then left looking pissed off and I knew she was for sure getting the bouncer, and I hauled ass out of the club. So on the one hand I was definitely getting played and was just cautious enough to regret the experience, but on the other I did get to sink into some TnA every which way for about half an hour—except that wasn’t the agreement for my $$.
Thoughts? Ever have a similar experience? Would you have done anything differently? And most importantly, how long do you think I have to wait to go back to that clubwithout getting thrown out? Because those girls are definitely worth revisiting.
But on my second visit she was chatting up another PL, so I went to the stage and met a very friendly 8 who let me play with her massive, perfect ass at the rail. This girl asks me for a dance, I ask her for prices, and she says $30 per dance or $200 for a half hour VIP. I ask her how the champagne room is, and she gave me a tour and rubbed up on me doggystyle through the pants and asked if I wanted to stay.
I might have gotten the room with her, but I decided to try my luck and said I wouldn’t pay that much just for dancing, but I could do $250 if she did FS, to which she said not itc, but that I could meet her after work. I agreed, but when I asked for her address she said she was staying with a friend and didn’t know it but I could follow her after work. Red flag 1. The she said if I paid her now I could get the VIP time and I could meet her after work at no charge. Red flag 2. I said no, I’ll pay you at your place, we can just chill. She said okay, but we should get a dance, otherwise how will I get you hot and bothered? I said yes to that because I wanted to test the waters since I was suspicious.
When we got to the booth I said “$30 for one dance, right?”. She said yes, I handed her the money, and to her credit it was one of the best dances I’ve ever had. Full contact, high energy, sucking tits, FIV. When the song was over she didn’t stop, just kept grinding away for about a half hour.
At that point I felt good about her and was really looking forward to closing time. Then the problems started. She suddenly says, okay that’s been about nine dances which is about $250”. I said I only asked for one dance and paid up front, so anything else was on her, and I thought she was just getting me worked up for later. Then she said I owed her because I didn’t ask her to stop. I said no, you’re trying to play me, she said no, pay me now and we can still meet later and tgat she had to cover her booth fee for 9 dances, which I called bs on since I know the club charges her per trip, not prr dance. Finally she said I was ripping her off, and I said sorry but I asked for one dance, paid up front, and she never asked if I wanted to pay for more.
She then left looking pissed off and I knew she was for sure getting the bouncer, and I hauled ass out of the club. So on the one hand I was definitely getting played and was just cautious enough to regret the experience, but on the other I did get to sink into some TnA every which way for about half an hour—except that wasn’t the agreement for my $$.
Thoughts? Ever have a similar experience? Would you have done anything differently? And most importantly, how long do you think I have to wait to go back to that clubwithout getting thrown out? Because those girls are definitely worth revisiting.
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It is not common for dancers to ask if you want another dance - they usually keep going "assuming" the custy wants more, or her not wanting to possibly ruin the $$$ by asking the guy if he wants to keep going and him changing his mind when she asks.
You should have known you were way over one song - and also know that strippers don't do shit for free - but - many newbs do often get confused thinking it's all part of getting one-song and then are taking aback when they've done about 10.
Perhaps you are "right" on a technicality at best - but if you are not a newb and knew you were way over one song, you should have not let her go on and on if you had no intention of paying; at the very least you should have clarified it w/ her - seems like you kinda milked a technicality.
And it's not a good idea to go over to a stripper's place that you don't know very-well - these girls rarely live alone so it's not practical - most OTCers rent a hotel room.
And it does seem she may have been trying to hustle you trying to get you to pay upfront for OTC - that's a risky move and usually a ROB move - most girls flake-out even when they haven't been paid, imagine once they got one's $$$ - asking a custy to pay in advance for OTC is like getting a dozen dances ITC from a dancer then telling her you'll pay her next week when you see her - neither situation is kosher.
If by any chance she gets a manager on you next time, all you have to do is deny deny deny - a ROB is not owed the truth - if she gets a manager all you have to say is "hey I paid her upfront for the dances I wanted and it was up to her to stop once the $$$ ran out - I wasn't sure if the dances were over" - but of course you can't say you just paid for one dance, I'd lie and say I paid for 3 upfront in case they check the tape and say you should have known that was not one song- but again I doubt anything will happen next time - at worst she may badmouth you w/ the other dancers but that can be overcome by being proactive and approaching other dancers and if they say she said you ripped her off just lie and say she was the one ripping you off - but you need to handle these situations differently/better in the future.
Write a review and name the ROB.
Dancer knew if she'd ask to continue - you would likely say no.
So she kept dancing banking on shaming you to pay. Also knew you'd be surprised.
But to your credit - you stood your guns and expressed major dismay since you really thought this dancer liked you and was dancing for her own pleasure !
Love it when a customer flips the con.
CP
A dancer is not a ROB because she is not willing to do FS OTC with a PL on his first visit. Really how naive are you? You couldn't tell she was always trying to steer your money back ITC? Why do you think the dancers are there? It couldn't be to sell dances now. Again, a dancer is not a ROB because she won't do FS ITC (and for the super high price of $250 total including the price of the room).
And now you are justifying outright theft (stealing her bag of ones, probably hundreds if not over a thousand dollars if it was truly full)? SMH.
Seriously, what did she "ROB" or try to "ROB" you of? Your hope of meeting her OTC for FS? She gave you 9 very high mileage dances of which you only paid for one and you're on this site complaining about her and potentially being banned (rightfully) from the club in the intermediate future.
Honestly, you should have stuck with the first 9 that gave you five dances discounted for $100 and offered a whole hour in the CR for $200 although that sounds too good to be true from a 9 and potentially ROBish; she'll probably pocket less than $100 for that hour.
On one hand we have that PL that spent $1600 for two hours of super tame VIP and was happy about it and on the other hand we have "this".
The baby PL in the OP has a lot of learning to do.
I'm not too worried about this new crop of PLs being ROBbed.
This does not bode well for the future state of strip clubs and the strippers willing to enter and stick with the industry.
Naive is paying a girl for less than was agreed. And I’m not talking shit about tye $1600 guy either. All I’m saying is a deal’s a deal no matter who it’s with. A ROB is a girl offering more than she delivers, and a bitch is a bitch but why define since you would know.
And I’m not justifying shit either, just is an eye for an eye but why tf would you believe in that? If you steal $1 from me, I’ll take your mf’ing car. Same with a girl, no matter how hot or how good her hustle. I even respect her game, but fuck me if I’m falling for it. I don’t hold the cheeks opem like some pl’s here.
Must not feed... Must not feed... Oops, too late...
Strippers don't dance for free unless they say it. I am surprised she didn't call bouncer to take you to ATM and to pay her or even you get thrown out. You lost her time and business
You wrote, "I think I severely misread the company in the room."
If you thought that we blindly take sides with fellow strip clubbers even when they express pride in putting one over on and showing complete disrespect to a stripper, then yes, you misread me anyway.
That was a douche move and I'm surprised they didn't get the cops out there.
As it turned out, you were the only one to actually ROB. Don't try to rationalize your actions.