Dancer Turnover
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even if I only get to a club once every 2-3 months, i usually can remember if i've seen a certain dancer before. in other words, i don't have to be at a club every week to be able to recall a face that i've seen before. (most of the time)
the one thing i've noticed, is that dancers seem to come and go quite often. sure, SOME of them stick to one club for a long period of time. my CF has been at her club for 3+ years. but it seems like MOST of them, for whatever reason, come and go. dancers seem to change rapidly.
i wonder what causes all this turnover. i realize that some girls might try stripping for the very first time, and find out that its not for them. perhaps they don't make as much as they imagined. or maybe they aren't good at convincing customers to buy dances. it seems like even if a woman is very attractive (by most guys standards) that doesn't automatically mean she'll be successful at stripping. the girl has to be able to tolerate the other aspects of the job---being a good saleswoman, the stress of the job, etc
so i guess my question is.....what causes this frequent dancer turnover? i'm really curious about this because it seems like a dancer staying at one particular club would be more beneficial to her---assuming she's making the money she wants to make. i mean, if she stays at one club---rather than hopping around--it seems like that would be an easier way to build a customer base (regulars) etc
the one thing i've noticed, is that dancers seem to come and go quite often. sure, SOME of them stick to one club for a long period of time. my CF has been at her club for 3+ years. but it seems like MOST of them, for whatever reason, come and go. dancers seem to change rapidly.
i wonder what causes all this turnover. i realize that some girls might try stripping for the very first time, and find out that its not for them. perhaps they don't make as much as they imagined. or maybe they aren't good at convincing customers to buy dances. it seems like even if a woman is very attractive (by most guys standards) that doesn't automatically mean she'll be successful at stripping. the girl has to be able to tolerate the other aspects of the job---being a good saleswoman, the stress of the job, etc
so i guess my question is.....what causes this frequent dancer turnover? i'm really curious about this because it seems like a dancer staying at one particular club would be more beneficial to her---assuming she's making the money she wants to make. i mean, if she stays at one club---rather than hopping around--it seems like that would be an easier way to build a customer base (regulars) etc
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There are the girls who try it and don't like it. Some may have expected to make hundreds on stage and not quite realized a big part of the money comes from selling lap dances and mileage.
Some cuties might make a lot of new girl money but not deliver much mileage and eventually give up.
Some girls get knocked up or get boyfriends who take them out of the game. Those girls often bounce in and out.
Some girls change clubs or move to a different city.
Some girls legitimately strip through college and get a day job with a 401k and benefits and stop stripping.
as too usa clubs... i agree with the OPs question. (at least most usa strippers tend to hang around longer than hk girls.)
It could be as severe as addiction and self-harm, or as innocuous as the dancer being a huge flake (not rare). Cars breaking down, issues with kids and family, shitty boyfriends, etc. Some dancers cause a lot of turmoil (and/or break club rules) within a club and leaving is not their choice.
Most women don't arrive at stripping via a series of good decisions and long-term planning. It's perhaps overly optimistic to think that those behaviors would suddenly spring into existence at the moment they strap on their first pair of stripper heels.
Not making enough money to justify the bullshit she has to put up with (drama in the dressing room, guys who try to finger her ass, etc)
Also, RILs who start getting scary, so she goes to work at a different club or hears that she can make twice as much across town because that's where the guys with money go to see the hot girls.
mark94... Agreed. But the smart ones number about 1 in 50 who don't exit for other reasons. And I'm pretty sure that some members will accuse me of excessive generosity with my estimate.
Also this new generation of girls aren't as used to or comfortable with direct or face to face contact. They don't know how to converse and they probably more scared of rejection. All of these things make it harder for them to make money and cause them to quit. The ones that do make it past the first few weeks might stick around a little longer, but that one really bad day (whether it's lack of money or some turd of a customer that violates them so badly) that eventually happens is usually enough to make them quit for good.
Only the ones that are really good at it tend to stick around for a decent amount of time.
Girls who don’t make it that long tend to make little money, have major transportation issues (or move), or get fired. Sometimes all three. I don’t know who goes to work at other clubs, but I suspect a lot of new girls just quit for good if they get fired.
I think a number of the better girls do it to pay for a particular thing: College, maybe, but more often a car, holiday presents, a TV, etc. Once they have whay they need, they don't do it anymore. Knew one girl who was great whom I happened to encounter on her last night before "retiring." Had a day job as a nurse and she found out her boyfriend was popping the question soon. She was earning/saving for a wedding and now that she knew she was getting one, it was planning time, not earning/saving time anymore.
I do also think there are some freaky guys out there that turn some girls off to this business quickly. Also, if you didn't have great self-esteem coming in, you have body issues and you can immediately tell you're not as good looking as the other dancers, I can see it getting depressing fast.
A lot of the ones who hang on are the sweethearts, though, if you treat them right. They have an appreciation for us hardcore mongers who appreciate them back. They're the yin to our yang, in more ways than one.
In my fave club, up until a year ago, among girls who stayed in the business, the reason they disappeared from dayshift at my favorite club: 1. they moved on to nightshift, 2. they moved on to the small handful of clubs where they could make more money, 3. they moved elsewhere in the sex business (escorts or FBSM). That, of course, doesn't take into account the many girls who were fired or quit -- some of whom, I'm sure, also stayed in the business, and moved on to another club.
For the past year, the clubs here have been very slow, slower than I've seen in all my years clubbing, and I know there's been girls who just plain left the business due (why put up with stripping if you can't make much money at it), and a huge number scattered anywhere they could make more money -- which sometimes meant going to a club that's technically lower in the hierarchy, just so they could get onto nightshift.
That and the fact that many of them did not realize how that big money was made in the VIP. Some are down for it, but some are "no f'ing way am I doing that"
"Most women don't arrive at stripping via a series of good decisions and long-term planning. It's perhaps overly optimistic to think that those behaviors would suddenly spring into existence at the moment they strap on their first pair of stripper heels."
^^BINGO! I think thats the deep psychological answer.
this comment jogged my memory.
i don't remember how it came up in our conversation, but one time a girl who danced for me told me that the reason she was dancing at that particular club....was because the other club right down the street that she USE to dance at.....required the girls to be out on the floor engaging with customers and didn't give them a lot of breaks. basically, the club she switched to was more lenient.
For this reason, it's hard to just show up at their club and actually find them working. I suspect there are a lot of dancers who are like these girls, especially if they find a club that allows them to work an irregular schedule.
Others went, not uncommonly in small groups, to other clubs that are supposed to have money.
Other girls go to school or don't have stable living conditions so they may be on the other side of the state or in an entirely different state for a large portion of the year.
Some take lots of vacations.
I remember taking a month of work during school in 2015. I took a month off at one point this past fall because I didn't feel like going in.