Dancer Turnover

23 comments

• JohnTitor

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  6 years ago

  drug overdoses?
• JamesSD

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  6 years ago

  I think there are a few types. There are the girls who try it and don't like it. Some may have expected to make hundreds on stage and not quite realized a big part of the money comes from selling lap dances and mileage. Some cuties might make a lot of new girl money but not deliver much mileage and eventually give up. Some girls get knocked up or get boyfriends who take them out of the game. Those girls often bounce in and out. Some girls change clubs or move to a different city. Some girls legitimately strip through college and get a day job with a 401k and benefits and stop stripping.
• Jascoi

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  6 years ago

  at my numero uno favorite club the turnover rate is HUGE. most hong kong girls seem to work only a month or two before they disappear. i understand it is because they go back home wherever in mexico and then come back for a while when they need more money. as too usa clubs... i agree with the OPs question. (at least most usa strippers tend to hang around longer than hk girls.)
• Call.Me.Ishmael

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  6 years ago

  All over the map... It could be as severe as addiction and self-harm, or as innocuous as the dancer being a huge flake (not rare). Cars breaking down, issues with kids and family, shitty boyfriends, etc. Some dancers cause a lot of turmoil (and/or break club rules) within a club and leaving is not their choice. Most women don't arrive at stripping via a series of good decisions and long-term planning. It's perhaps overly optimistic to think that those behaviors would suddenly spring into existence at the moment they strap on their first pair of stripper heels.
• Darkblue999

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  6 years ago

  I know a very attractive dancer who is top earner at her club. She used to dance regularly like 4 or 5 days a week. She got into relationship and started cutting her work [view link] she works only a day a week. I don't understand how can she lose money just becos of BF.
• ppwh

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  6 years ago

  > so i guess my question is.....what causes this frequent dancer turnover? Not making enough money to justify the bullshit she has to put up with (drama in the dressing room, guys who try to finger her ass, etc) Also, RILs who start getting scary, so she goes to work at a different club or hears that she can make twice as much across town because that's where the guys with money go to see the hot girls.
• mark94

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  6 years ago

  The smart ones have an exit plan.
• Call.Me.Ishmael

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  6 years ago

  ppwh... Stalkers. I'm sure that's a factor, as well. mark94... Agreed. But the smart ones number about 1 in 50 who don't exit for other reasons. And I'm pretty sure that some members will accuse me of excessive generosity with my estimate.
• theDirkDiggler

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  6 years ago

  I would guess that around 80% of baby strippers (the new lifeblood of strip clubs) don't make it more than a couple weeks. Most of them have no idea what the business is about and find it harder than they think. Also the industry is getting more difficult and slow so they aren't getting any help from the territorial veterans, even if in the long run it would be better for the club if they were able to stick around as bad/sparse talent is a problem at so many clubs. In other words a rising tide lifts all boats, but strippers and logic don't go together. Most of them don't think in the long term, but just that day or week and they just consider the new girl to be competition. Also this new generation of girls aren't as used to or comfortable with direct or face to face contact. They don't know how to converse and they probably more scared of rejection. All of these things make it harder for them to make money and cause them to quit. The ones that do make it past the first few weeks might stick around a little longer, but that one really bad day (whether it's lack of money or some turd of a customer that violates them so badly) that eventually happens is usually enough to make them quit for good. Only the ones that are really good at it tend to stick around for a decent amount of time.
• Salty.Nutz

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  6 years ago

  i think some of them start hoeing after they see its a lot easier to make money OTC. i think Bourbon in Phoenix has the highest dedicated strippers with a very low burn out rate. i think they offer strippers a retirement package there and pension
• Bj99

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  6 years ago

  Girls who make it for six months seem fairly long term, even if they take breaks. I Girls who don’t make it that long tend to make little money, have major transportation issues (or move), or get fired. Sometimes all three. I don’t know who goes to work at other clubs, but I suspect a lot of new girls just quit for good if they get fired.
• AnonymousJim

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  6 years ago

  I think a lot of good points have already been made. I think a number of the better girls do it to pay for a particular thing: College, maybe, but more often a car, holiday presents, a TV, etc. Once they have whay they need, they don't do it anymore. Knew one girl who was great whom I happened to encounter on her last night before "retiring." Had a day job as a nurse and she found out her boyfriend was popping the question soon. She was earning/saving for a wedding and now that she knew she was getting one, it was planning time, not earning/saving time anymore. I do also think there are some freaky guys out there that turn some girls off to this business quickly. Also, if you didn't have great self-esteem coming in, you have body issues and you can immediately tell you're not as good looking as the other dancers, I can see it getting depressing fast. A lot of the ones who hang on are the sweethearts, though, if you treat them right. They have an appreciation for us hardcore mongers who appreciate them back. They're the yin to our yang, in more ways than one.
• Subraman

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  6 years ago

  Really interesting question! In my fave club, up until a year ago, among girls who stayed in the business, the reason they disappeared from dayshift at my favorite club: 1. they moved on to nightshift, 2. they moved on to the small handful of clubs where they could make more money, 3. they moved elsewhere in the sex business (escorts or FBSM). That, of course, doesn't take into account the many girls who were fired or quit -- some of whom, I'm sure, also stayed in the business, and moved on to another club. For the past year, the clubs here have been very slow, slower than I've seen in all my years clubbing, and I know there's been girls who just plain left the business due (why put up with stripping if you can't make much money at it), and a huge number scattered anywhere they could make more money -- which sometimes meant going to a club that's technically lower in the hierarchy, just so they could get onto nightshift.
• goldmongerATL

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  6 years ago

  I recently had a baby stripper tell me it was weird to actually talk to a stranger. They are so used to texting as their primary form of communication. That may be a reason baby strippers don't circulate and don't last. That and the fact that many of them did not realize how that big money was made in the VIP. Some are down for it, but some are "no f'ing way am I doing that"
• DandyDan

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  6 years ago

  I think for most strippers, there are 2 reasons they leave a specific club: 1) They can't handle stripping, quit, and never go back to it; 2) They can't deal with the way a specific club works and move on to another one. For one of my former favorite clubs, there was an additional reason, which is that the girls who weren't using it as a stripper retirement home were basically waiting to be hired at the club up the interstate from there.
• skibum609

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  6 years ago

  A lot of dancers change clubs simply because they can be the "new" girl and therefore more desirable.
• Rickberge

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  6 years ago

  "Most women don't arrive at stripping via a series of good decisions and long-term planning. It's perhaps overly optimistic to think that those behaviors would suddenly spring into existence at the moment they strap on their first pair of stripper heels." ^^BINGO! I think thats the deep psychological answer.
• Papi_Chulo

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  6 years ago

  There are some clubs that always seem to mostly have the same roster of girls, but that seems to def be the exception and seems to usually apply to smaller clubs
• Papi_Chulo

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  6 years ago

  I would imagine dancing can be taxing to many girls - most women don't enjoy being groped by strange men day in and day out - plus everything else that goes with strip clubs (drinking, smoking, drugs, low-class people, etc) - strip clubs are usually not tue best of environments and many dancers perhaps just wanna move on to a more normal life where they don't feel like they are selling/prostituting themselves.
• GoVikings

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  6 years ago

  "2) They can't deal with the way a specific club works and move on to another one." this comment jogged my memory. i don't remember how it came up in our conversation, but one time a girl who danced for me told me that the reason she was dancing at that particular club....was because the other club right down the street that she USE to dance at.....required the girls to be out on the floor engaging with customers and didn't give them a lot of breaks. basically, the club she switched to was more lenient.
• wildbourbon

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  6 years ago

  The two strippers I'm friends with outside of the club live very much hand to mouth. They're only interested in meeting their immediate needs/wants (money for tickets to raves, weed, dog food for the pups, etc.). They both work part time in retail and dance only when they need an infusion of cash. For this reason, it's hard to just show up at their club and actually find them working. I suspect there are a lot of dancers who are like these girls, especially if they find a club that allows them to work an irregular schedule.
• larryfisherman

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  6 years ago

  As been stated it could be a lot of reasons. The most common reasons is 1. They left to work at another club, 2. They’re taking a break, 3. They’re done stripping.
• NinaBambina

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  6 years ago

  I think a significant number of girls who are "slutty" in regular life or (aren't even sluts but just have no real skills) will dance and realize it's not the glamour they envisioned, it's real work; so some of them fail. They don't know how to turn their sex appeal into a reliable income, so they don't make money, so they quit --- although sometimes they return. For some of them they don't make as much money as they anticipated, and/or got self-conscious, and gave up quickly. Others went, not uncommonly in small groups, to other clubs that are supposed to have money. Other girls go to school or don't have stable living conditions so they may be on the other side of the state or in an entirely different state for a large portion of the year. Some take lots of vacations. I remember taking a month of work during school in 2015. I took a month off at one point this past fall because I didn't feel like going in.