Rater Rules Gone Wrong
dennyspade
Illinois
I have visited clubs rated on this board that have been given Top 40 ratings and some that have landed in the Bottom 40. I will agree that the worst clubs have been true to form and deserve such marks and remarks. However; should I expect a club that averages a "9" to be three times better than one which averages a "3"?
I have seen some raters excited by their ATF and the new "hottie" or there's been a remodeling done at their favorite club and the ratings begin to rise. Should 1 or 2 new dancers make a huge difference when rating a club experience?
I have seen some raters excited by their ATF and the new "hottie" or there's been a remodeling done at their favorite club and the ratings begin to rise. Should 1 or 2 new dancers make a huge difference when rating a club experience?
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Then again, I soon enough was hankerin' for another service session at a place like Treasures. I don't really have much time for the "non extreme" clubs when I'm traveling.
In other words, I agree with Chili for the most part. The girls and their dances are all I really care about. Atmosphere, friendly staff and other details matter only inasmuch as they affect my interaction with strippers. Especially in detrimental way, which is not uncommon.
Which is why the main reason I look at ratings is to decide which reviews to read. When in a new city I'll read the reviews of all the higher rated clubs and then decide from the descriptions of the places which one or two I'm most likely to enjoy. Which is why I think reviews should describe not just the girls but what the place is like, including size, atmosphere and prices. Especially prices.
I think in practice I want to believe I'm trinary. Yes, no, and maybe so I gotta find out.
I think in reality I'm more likely quarternary or quinternary or sextuplet or whatever. Yes, no, and then maybe type A (I really like her tits or her X Y Z but there's a lot else to be disappointed about) and maybe type B (I really DON'T like her tits or her X Y Z but there'sd a lot else to be excited about) and maybe type C (I am totally up in the air about this chick) and maybe type D (I have no idea why I'm attracted to this chick, but I just have to admit to myself that I actually am, probably despite my better inclinations), etc.
Trying to reduce it to binary really eliminates a lot of the fun of the experience. It's the maybe girls that are the most fun, both the ones that end up as true yes girls (because, of course, a yes girl is GREAT) and also the ones that end up as true no girls (because of the thrill of the chase-down, and because of the experience of learning to reject her on the basis of something that feels "valid" or "right" and therefore reaffirms myself as a "manly man" type of dude).
Interesting where our minds will go.
BG
However, I like Chili's scale, too. Four grades is about the most that can be meaningful. Scales of ten points or more, via fractions, wind up seeming arbitrary to anybody but the grader.
If the answer is no, then whatever else good about this club no longer matters; I don't pay up to a $20 cover charge and then $5 for 8 ounces of a watered down Coke so I can listen to loud music that I otherwise would never play on my Ipod.
Therefore, I rate the dancers on a 1-4 scale:
1: Wouldn't lap her even if she was offering a BBBJTC for free.
2: Has some feature that would get me to lap her (i.e, big boobs, is 6' tall, wearing naughty schoolgirl outfit, etc.) Usually, this is a dancer who is good for up to 2-4 laps, as the mileage isn;t enough to keep my continued interest.
3: Great looks, good attitude, good-to-excellent mileage. A CF will fall in this category. She doesn't have to get you off (every time), but she does have to have lap skills plus looks to keep you hard and wanting more. These girls are why you keep coming back to the club.
4: Flawless. Extremely rare (I don't believe in grade inflation). For me, pornstar Julia Ann was one of the few "4's" I used to lap with, back before Blondage when she was a cream wrestler at Angels in Long Beach and a dancer at Fritz's in Bellflower. 5'10" tall, model gorgeous, DD breasts, and good contact laps for the early 90s. That's a 4.
The nice thing about this scale is that it removes everything from the rating equation except the reason you go to a club: to find a dancer with whom to lap. If she lapworthy, she's at least a two; if she's not, regardless of anything else, she's a 1. It's that simple.
CP
In cities where I know the clubs, I completely ignore the numbers; I just scan reviews to see if anything has changed since my last visit.
Comparing clubs across cities is very difficult using the ratings. How do I rate a great club in a city that doesn't allow liquor or nude LDs? How do I compare that to a so-so club with booze and bare asses in my lap? Your evaluation weighting of the importance of these things would probably differ from mine. Hell, mine differ from day to day. Somedays, I want to drink even if it means air dances. Other days, I'll wait on the booze til after the club.
Thanks for the advice. I have been surprised traveling to Detroit and thought that the Landing Strip and the PlayHouse would be much larger and have a wider selection of talent from which to choose, based on ratings.
I have found the Memphis Clubs to be as described. Bring money. You will get as much as you are willing to pay.
I would love to see reviews from clubs that have improved recently due to change in management, liquor ordinances, etc. It may be a HOT LIST of Good Finds/ Best Buy/ Value Choice, etc. I would not like to overlook a smaller venue in a new town in favor of the large Show Bars or MegaClubs.
Frankly, I'm afraid it would be a bad change. For one thing, many clubs don't even have a VIP, lap dances, waitresses or drinks to price. And who wants decor and a bunch of other peripheral categories to receive equal weight with lap dances in the overall score?
I think it's better to let each reviewer skew the club rating whatever way they want, and let it all average out in the long run. Individual ratings are always going to be puzzling. The fact is there really isn't any problem with the current system that needs to be fixed. If you just look at the average ratings, it's remarkable how accurate they often turn out to be. The only problem is that totally subjective opinions can never be quantified in a predictable way that makes everybody happy. Better to keep it simple than try to overthink it.
Other than that, I guess it makes fine sense. Keep 'em coming!
Make sense?
I also like to keep track of other clubs that someone has gone to when looking at a rating. For instance if there is someone who actively participates in the discussion board and they have rated a club a certain way, then I am more likely going to pay closer attention to that rating. That way I am not allowing someone who has less knowledge about clubs, or actively interested in the lifestyle, bias a clubs rating.
I don't usually post if I consider myself a regular or if I seem to be getting special attention but I wouldn't be surprised if I was in some cases.
I've had a great time just watching the girls get nude on stage in some clubs and never got a dance and have rated a club well while I noticed some people sit alone at the tables watching from a distance. I wouldn't enjoy my visit from that far away. If there was a separate review rating for dances, I might rate those a lot differently than the club review since I don't get dances in every club I visit. I think the ratings are more like guidelines and you have to read the reviews to see if it's your kind of club. I guess I'm thinking of a pirate movie saying the ratings are more like guidelines.
So many variables. Clubs can have a great vibe one night, and a somber one on another. The girls on the shift when when you visit can be not so attractive; or the two really attractive ones on that shift clocked in sick or are on vacation! Or all th ehotties show up on a partiular night to make up for sick days, make moeny for vacation amd/or presents...
I look at the concensus rating and for the ratings that review what I find important in a night out. Does the reviewer like to chat with the ladies, or on the other extreme, takes any offer to dance as a hustle rather than an invitation to flirt? Extras or no exras? Loud DJ or too loud DJ? Other clientele scared the hell out of you, or ou felt right at home?
There are places on the internet where rating a girl, and her services in particular, are possible (cf. Redbook in San Francisco, esp. regarding Mitchells' O'Farrell B. T.) but mostly, the girls move on, cycle 'round, change clubs, disappear, reappear so fast, that an internet resource won't be useful.