bias, TUSCL readers and strip club customers.
nj_pete
New Jersey
OK, at the risk of apprearing to be a "snob". I've poked around one of the other strib club review sites and its trash, short comments basically that seem to be centered on bashing other posts and the like.
I know a previous thread of a while back on occupations and ages showed that for the most part the TUSCL posters are college educated professionals in middle age.
For the most part, quality in the posts and observations and details in reviews reflects this. I don;t think the average strib club customer is goingto go thru the effort to write a review and read/post comments in this discussion board.
So where 'am I going with this? My question is who so you thing the average strip customer is? Is it Joe 6 Pack for the most part? I beleive that TUSCL readers are in the minority when it comes to strip club customers.
Just throwing this out for comment.
I know a previous thread of a while back on occupations and ages showed that for the most part the TUSCL posters are college educated professionals in middle age.
For the most part, quality in the posts and observations and details in reviews reflects this. I don;t think the average strib club customer is goingto go thru the effort to write a review and read/post comments in this discussion board.
So where 'am I going with this? My question is who so you thing the average strip customer is? Is it Joe 6 Pack for the most part? I beleive that TUSCL readers are in the minority when it comes to strip club customers.
Just throwing this out for comment.
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Beyond that group of occasional visitors, I think you have a couple of types of patrons. There is the "dyed-in-the-wool" regular (this is probably me) who sometimes gets a fair number of dances but often just has a few drinks, tips his favorites on stage and then goes home. Then there is the "less-regular regular" who comes in more than the average joe but spends a lot of cash when he does. He usually has a favorite dancer (or dancers) and they tend to monopolize his time (and he theirs) when he does show up. Most of the people who post here are probably in the last category and almost all would be in the last two categories. The "skeezer" probably isn't spending his spare time on a strip club review site.
I have always considered the other board to be the equivalent of graffiti on a bathroom wall. However, dancers tend to read it because it is a free site. Two dancers have asked me to post good reviews for them on the "other board."
Re: my impression on dancers. At one club a dancer who was giving me a lap dance kept saying, "You're so clean...you're so clean," which I guess should have given me insight into the club's typical clientele.
At Favorite Club, some dancers and customers have said that, while I am welcome there, I would probably have a better time at a glitzier Indy club by the airport. Fortunately, that is my second favorite Indy club. But I go wherever my mood leads me. As those of you familiar with East St. Louis clubs will understand, sometime I am in a PT's mood--sometimes I am in a Dollie's mood. I'm just glad that they are both available options.
What I am finding is that the more mainstream days I attend, the less likely I am to have a good time. It is pointless to attend a club on a Friday or Saturday night as all of the skeezers are there.
Attire is indicative of interest in the place. You see everything from the baseball caps and jeans to the non shaven, still wearing work clothing or sporting attire. And sadly they seem to get the initial attention because they are loud and boisterous. Sad thing is that sometimes you can watch a dancer who has gone into the lions den to show her wares and her facial expressions become all too telling of 'what the hell did I do this for' when the person starts acting like this is a petting zoo.
I personally wear decent clothing any time I am going out. I try to make sure that I have a fresh shave and that my clothing matches and that I don't look like a bum. I think I spent more on my shoes than the average person in the club spent on their wardrobe - but I digress.
I think that things are turning towards the mainstream and the dancers are allowing it. Not sure where it is taking us but I am up for the ride for at least one more year I guess.
Best wishes to all of you for the new year!
I think MOST strip club patrons are skeezers. This would be a total-per-capita assessment. Out of all the clubs in the country, regardless of volume, regardless of city, who are the men who most often patronize a club with naked women? The vast majority are what I call "skeezers."
What's a skeezer? They're there as a "lark" -- a one-off event for them, or a bachelor party, or because they got jilted or didn't score, or because a buddy is in town, or because they're on a business trip. They do not include planning to go to a strip club as a regular portion of their general plans for socializing on nearly any weekend.
Skeezers are, in addition, trying to minimize expense. They'll buy a lapper ONLY if push-comes-to-shove (har har) and they just can't resist the ONE girl in the club who is just utterly irresistible to them (their "perfect" girl -- and they might not see one of them every night). Otherwise, they will tip maybe $1 at a stage-side once, then feel that this is silly. They round the drink price up by the remainder change to make it an even dollar, but don't tip any more than that. (Beer for $4.75 means they pay $5, then $5, then $5, then MAYBE $6 at the end of the night.) They wear polo shirts and jeans. They are aged 18 to 28, many still in a university or community college. They wear baseball caps. Their shoes are white leather or faux-leather athletic "cross trainers" or basketball style. They are Caucasian, sometimes Asian depending on the city. They work professional office-bound low-level (but not necessarily low-paid) jobs -- law clerk, real estate appraiser, car salesman, graphic design production coordinator, computer programmer, MCSE A+ C++. They are single. They don't have girlfriends. They play softball or tennis, drive sedans or pickups recently bought on time, don't own a home (yet), wear conformist clothes, didn't shave, didn't plan on getting lappers (note the blue jeans), are mildly embarrassed to be there, talk a good "family values" game whenever politics comes up, think girls who strip are "cheap," and hope to settle down and marry someone as hot as a stripper some day. They dine at Ruby Tuesdays and wear tightie whiteys. They drink the beer that is on special, out of longnecks, because they don't give a damn (and because fancy beer from a tap is for when you can pay attention to it or at least impress a girl with it), spend too much on CDs and not enough on clothes, and basically don't know that there's a "system" designed to keep the lower middle class DOWN. They can't believe someone would disagree with the invasion of Iraq (hey man that's our MILITARY don't you FUCK with it) and they don't vote. They can't name the Vice President or the Secretary of State, they think a certificate in "Hotel Management" is a legitimate college education (whether or not they've got one), and Doonesbury bores them (too many words, not enough jokes). But then, Heathcliff and Kathy bore them more. They prefer clubs in "safe" areas of town.
Strippers see them and get frustrated, because basically the skeezer attitude toward money is, "You aren't worth a dime, honey, but I'm going to try to get my hands all over you anyway." They don't know how to offer fair price for play and don't understand that trying to lower the price can be taken, by the professional involved in the exchange, as an insult to her personality and worth as a human being. They call strippers "sluts" and "whores" and then love to have their cocks stroked by them.
I actually see fewer skeezers than I do "grown ups" at the clubs I go to, the times I go. But it has to be admitted, that these people form the vast majority of clubbing patrons. Just drop in on a "high volume" club in Las Vegas or a major metro area (LA? Chicago) and look around. They are our future. :(
How each group may see things differently is an interesting question, so the bias is very possible. If you consider the poster to be more likely to be better educated and more affluent than the "typical" customer you might want to consider that, but also consider that if the more affluent and educated customer is not rare they may not be the majority of customers, but may make up the bulk of the spending, and therefore the strippers may cater more heavily to them.
I've heard much further break downs but I don't remember them at the moment. Perhaps it's a bunch of young college age kids without much money to spend, then some older guys with some married and some not married. Then there are couples. I've even seen groups of girls which seems to be new to me since they do not seem to be strippers. Seems a bit strange to me if you're sitting in a men's strip club and you are surrounded by nice looking female customers. It can be nice but something I'm not used to yet especially if the female customers look a lot better than the strippers.