I know girls are a bit more (probably a lot more) fluid in their sexuality often being straight, lesbian, bisexual or bi-curious, sometimes even identifying with all or any of these things at different points of their lives. And let's face it; girls are just naturally so much more beautiful, aesthetically pleasing and desirable, although a lot of them do put in the work (and i'm not talking about cosmetic surgery, although that is often an option, unfortunately) to look good. I would say, that unless a girl was strictly dickly, she'd eventually be open to doing something with a girl (not necessarily full blown sex, whatever that is) after being surrounded by hot sexy naked girls all the time often with alcohol thrown in; it just seems so much more natural and easier for them. It definitely seems much more common than say IRL, or even in the regular club scene where it's still pretty common. Also remember the straight WNBA player that claimed that 98% of the league was gay/lesbian and how hard it supposedly was for her? I don't really think it's that high, but there might be something like that going on in the strip clubs as well; a highly estrogenized environment (backstage) that encourages such things or attracts a certain type, or something. I would peg it at around 90% (maybe only 10% of women would be genuinely creeped out by being touched by or touching a woman), but what do i know?
I once had a stripper tell me that half of the dancers in the club were lesbian or bi. " who wouldn't be with all of the half naked women running around in the club".
I’ve known quite a few dancers over the years. If they aren’t into girls before they start, they almost universally become bi comfortable at the very least.
Considering how many strippers have children, it's pretty clear they like cock so I don't thank many true lesbians work in clubs. If you're curious how a dancer responds to women, have her sit beside you at the stage and give her singles to tip with. I don't do this much but when I have it seems like both girls get away with "more" than a guy would at the rail.
Strippers seem to be comfortable with lesbian acts even if they're primarily heterosexual. In the 3-ways I've had, the strippers engaged in sex with each other without hesitation.
In the non-stripper realm, I knew a straight girl who had been a college athlete (basketball, softball, track). I asked her once about how many female athletes were lesbians, and she said about 80%.
never tried to do a survey, but it comes up a lot during conversations, dancers will tell me one of the reasons they got into dancing is b/c they enjoy looking at women, or you notice a dancer paying lots of attention to another dancer on stage, and when you ask her she confirms it, seems to be really common
I would say most “generalizations” or “assumptions” in this thread seem pretty accurate.
I did think of myself and all the relationships I’ve had with strippers I’ve know over the years and I can’t recall one single stripper I knew that was openly bi-sexual, but several that claimed that simply was not their thing, although they’d readily admit another stripper was hot.
I'm never lacking for attention (or extras) at clubs so that should tell you something.
While the number of strictly lesbian dancers is relatively small, the large majority are either bi or bi- curious. Even strictly-dickly dancers have given me amazing dances that could have fooled me, lol. At the end of the day it's all about the mighty dollar.
A discussion I had with one stripper was that since VIP pricing only really requires covering the bouncer fee (as far as the club is concerned), in theory she could encounter a guy so hot she might be willing to lap him for free and pay the bouncer herself. She said that she'd only do that to be with another girl!
I have tried to ascertain this in my anecdotal experience talking with CFs/ATFs and random strippers that I've had convos with. From this anecdotal experience, I am pretty sure that at least half of them are tolerable of being with a woman, BUT...of this group, there is a significant proportion that still prefer men and are just more open to exploring sex with another woman. I hesitate to call all of these women truly bisexual because I have had explicit conversations with them and a lot of them are with other women only for show at the club and IRL they prefer men/dick. Over half of my CFs/ATFs are like this.
As to the percentages of true lesbians that only like women/pussy IRL, I have no idea but I would bet it is over 25% and quite possibly up to 50%. That said, this is up in Portland which is a very lesbian city. You can't swing a dead cat in this town without hitting a lesbian or a Subaru driver!
And in general I avoid true lesbian strippers like the plague. I don't get it with them. I don't know many straight men that would sit on a gay man's hard cock for any amount of money, so I can't fathom why a true lesbian would want to do the same. I certainly don't want to be with a stripper that deep down is repulsed by being near my dick. I want a stripper that actually enjoys being with a man IRL. In my experience, these make the best strippers, and it has always been the case with my CFs/ATFs.
If i had to guess, i would say that the true lesbians (women only and always) make up less than 10% of strippers, pretty much like IRL. The other 80% is a huge swath of preferences and behaviors ranging from just light touching, mostly ass grabbing or spanking, to nipple sucking to kissing and then kitty play and oral sex with other strippers and to having a GF outside the club. I've been with at least two girls who supposedly were more on the lesbian side, (were vaginal virgins before they started stripping if they were being honest and some of this i heard from other strippers who got with them) and they eventually warmed up to vaginal insertion (not intercourse) when before they were definitely not into that. So things can change in this type of environment. They were both really hot too and on the more popular side at the clubs they worked at.
An interesting comparison (besides female athletes) would be porn stars. I'm sure many of the women that go into porn start out straight, but it is almost expected for every single woman to do a G/G scene and they usually pass it off as if they are bisexual, when the reality is they're probably still straight (many of them anyways). Either way, they have to be comfortable with this (my requirement to be considered into girls) to continue in the industry. I only heard of one porn star who was strictly dickly (in her solo interview she stated such; she had not a single G/G scene), but wasn't comfortable doing B/G either (unless it was with a BF or something) and she couldn't make it in the industry, despite being quite attractive. There just isn't much of a solo only market. So i guess for many it is just gay4pay or even straight4pay sometimes.
^ I take it back. There's a huge solo market and it's called camming, but that offers interaction and a poor man's version of pay4play. But the porn star referenced above (Chelci Fox or something like that), started out way before camming too off and retired not long after.
My ATF and I have done quite a few 3 ways and I can tell which ones she's into and those who she tolerates. For awhile she worked for a company doing "private shows" and most of the time that included girl on girl shows. There was one dancer who she loved working with - they'd eat each other, use a double headed dildo, etc.
However my nom de plume here comes from my love of private porn shows starring her and with the right guy I have no doubt she prefers cocks.
She has done one four some where both guys fucked her and her natural exhibitionism rose to the front. She has made several videos of guys fucking her and she is multi-orgasmic far more than with women. She recently had no steady guy in her life and a real butch lesbian was hitting on her for a few weeks. I know she really liked the gal - personality, sense of humor, etc. but she resisted her sexual advances and told me she's afraid she'd get used to it ( the lesbian life).
I think she's typical of many strippers - highly sexualized - but primarily heterosexual .
I’m thinking that there is a very low percentage of true lesbian dancers (probably 10%).
The number that is honestly bi - I’d estimate at 30%.
The percentage that acts bi - in the club - to make more $$$ - is probably close to 70%.
I think the club-bi types are the vast majority. There’s less of a taboo associated with girls getting it on - than there is with guys. I think that makes a huge difference here. Porn offers a good example - as straight porn has guys and girls - and girls getting it on with girls and guys. You don’t see bi guys getting it on in straight porn.
Dancers are pretty good at convincing us (old sloppy mongers) that they find us attractive - so is it that much of a jump to them acting as though they find a beautiful young girl attractive too?
Cashman is 100% right, the dancers act bi to make more $$$ because they think the customers love that. For me personally girls that are into girls is a turnoff for me.
I think there is just something different about feminine sexuality (some might say Yin energy) that is more neutral or less conflicting when combined with the same type. Again, using the porn example, i think both straight men and women don't seem to be as bothered watching two girls together as opposed to two guys together (strangely, a lot of lesbians like to watch that). I initially didn't care for that, and was actually turned off by it, but eventually i either got desensitized to it or actually started preferring certain aspects of it to straight porn (no interest in seeing men's bodies). Certainly, it's nothing compared to the strong visceral aversion i will feel when seeing anything with two guys. I don't care how good of a movie people say Brokeback Mountain is; i ain't watching that and there are many guys like me. But if there was a similar quality of movie with two girls, we'd be all over that.
@theDirkDiggler I get what you are saying and in general I agree that straight women are more open to sexual preference fluidity than straight men are. But not that there are straight women that are just as uncomfortable seeing two lesbians together as straight men are seeing two gay men together. My wife is like this. But then again, she once got a tandem private dance with me and two strippers and I would never want to do that with her and two male stripper's. OH HELL NO!!!
LOL also to further your point, I don't think think there are really bisexual men. To me they are really just gay men that are over the top horny so they will sleep with women too. Or they are just trying to lessen the stigma of being truly gay so they claim bisexuality.
Even with male strip clubs (the full monty and not just thonged clubs) and male prostitutes, there is just something about men that seems to be attractive to only gay men. Random naked men (including dick pics) just seem scary/threatening/offensive or something for most women.
Three of my last four favs and my ATF were bi friendly and had a GF in the last year. All said they like pussy and dick. Prefer dick to pussy, but find it hard to find a “real man”. Who the fuck knows what that means. One even tried to hide it from me becaus she got into a serious gf, but her coworkers mistakenly outed her. Don’t know why she was being so secretive. After speaking to these women in detail, it agrees with what was said above. When surrounded by beautiful, naked women as your daily job. You have a foundational understanding with them, comraderie, and attraction. Throw in weed, booze, and drugs. Throw in whatever emotional fucked up thing they are going through or have gone through. It makes sense. I’d say 75% or higher!
"... there is just something about men that seems to be attractive to only gay men. Random naked men (including dick pics) just seem scary/threatening/offensive or something for most women ..."
Elaine from Seinfeld w.r.t. the female vs male body; LOL:
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In the non-stripper realm, I knew a straight girl who had been a college athlete (basketball, softball, track). I asked her once about how many female athletes were lesbians, and she said about 80%.
I did think of myself and all the relationships I’ve had with strippers I’ve know over the years and I can’t recall one single stripper I knew that was openly bi-sexual, but several that claimed that simply was not their thing, although they’d readily admit another stripper was hot.
While the number of strictly lesbian dancers is relatively small, the large majority are either bi or bi- curious. Even strictly-dickly dancers have given me amazing dances that could have fooled me, lol. At the end of the day it's all about the mighty dollar.
As to the percentages of true lesbians that only like women/pussy IRL, I have no idea but I would bet it is over 25% and quite possibly up to 50%. That said, this is up in Portland which is a very lesbian city. You can't swing a dead cat in this town without hitting a lesbian or a Subaru driver!
And in general I avoid true lesbian strippers like the plague. I don't get it with them. I don't know many straight men that would sit on a gay man's hard cock for any amount of money, so I can't fathom why a true lesbian would want to do the same. I certainly don't want to be with a stripper that deep down is repulsed by being near my dick. I want a stripper that actually enjoys being with a man IRL. In my experience, these make the best strippers, and it has always been the case with my CFs/ATFs.
An interesting comparison (besides female athletes) would be porn stars. I'm sure many of the women that go into porn start out straight, but it is almost expected for every single woman to do a G/G scene and they usually pass it off as if they are bisexual, when the reality is they're probably still straight (many of them anyways). Either way, they have to be comfortable with this (my requirement to be considered into girls) to continue in the industry. I only heard of one porn star who was strictly dickly (in her solo interview she stated such; she had not a single G/G scene), but wasn't comfortable doing B/G either (unless it was with a BF or something) and she couldn't make it in the industry, despite being quite attractive. There just isn't much of a solo only market. So i guess for many it is just gay4pay or even straight4pay sometimes.
However my nom de plume here comes from my love of private porn shows starring her and with the right guy I have no doubt she prefers cocks.
She has done one four some where both guys fucked her and her natural exhibitionism rose to the front. She has made several videos of guys fucking her and she is multi-orgasmic far more than with women. She recently had no steady guy in her life and a real butch lesbian was hitting on her for a few weeks. I know she really liked the gal - personality, sense of humor, etc. but she resisted her sexual advances and told me she's afraid she'd get used to it ( the lesbian life).
I think she's typical of many strippers - highly sexualized - but primarily heterosexual .
The number that is honestly bi - I’d estimate at 30%.
The percentage that acts bi - in the club - to make more $$$ - is probably close to 70%.
I think the club-bi types are the vast majority. There’s less of a taboo associated with girls getting it on - than there is with guys. I think that makes a huge difference here. Porn offers a good example - as straight porn has guys and girls - and girls getting it on with girls and guys. You don’t see bi guys getting it on in straight porn.
Dancers are pretty good at convincing us (old sloppy mongers) that they find us attractive - so is it that much of a jump to them acting as though they find a beautiful young girl attractive too?
LOL also to further your point, I don't think think there are really bisexual men. To me they are really just gay men that are over the top horny so they will sleep with women too. Or they are just trying to lessen the stigma of being truly gay so they claim bisexuality.
Elaine from Seinfeld w.r.t. the female vs male body; LOL:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9v8hcAe…