Did the deed with dancer OTC

Yah. Love it when they share their personal disasters with you; kind of like, "Hey, I used to have a car just like that, sir. I busted it up going ten miles an hour under the speed limit, the brakes failed. So, will you be buying the 2007 model today?"

Well, I enjoyed the post and agree with many who correctly state that the suggestion or offering of INT/OTC favors are initiated by the dancer. In rare instances I've suggested it but that usually resulted in a no (and in some of those instances the dancers have reinitiate the suggestion at a later visit. It's all based on their financial need (or greed) at the time anyway.

The post made me think of the worst OTC (of 2) I had. The dancer suggested meeting her at a local HoJo where she was staying and she would call her husband to leave the room with their kids. Well, I got there, called, and he wasnt gone yet, 10 min later he is buckling little kids in the van and drives off. I go to the room and could barely get a hard and didnt nut thinking of the husband and kids etc. She also explained that they were on the run from Canada for some thing or other and trying to relocate in Fla. The entire situation sucked and was very sad.

FONDL: I proactively seek clubs where I think there will be "extras" (of the prostitutional variety). And I do experience what Chandler reports, that generally the girls seem to initiate overtures in that direction. In "wild assed" clubs I've felt free to open the conversation with a girl, about extras, but I've only ever done it in situations where I am fairly well convinced, that by her mere performance of stripping in that club, she will know that such things are already going on. For example, if you solicit a girl at Treasure's in Houston (before the recent raid!) for "extras" in the back chair-forts or upstairs, you aren't going out on a limb by assuming that she will either DO them, or KNOW that other gals are doing them.

But if you do the same at a purportedly "classy" club perhaps in a different jurisdiction where things are not so loose, and do it in a way that seems to suggest you "expect" it, then you're stepping beyond the line of reasonable social behavior. For another example, I bet every stripper in Las Vegas has been propositioned for extras by drunk college-aged kids, regardless of the nature of the club she's in.

Anyway, having an interaction with a girl that, in my mind, is going to lead to extras-service, is something that really is experienced with a different lobe of the brain. There's the "fantasizing" lobe, that allows for "plausible deniability." Then there's the other lobe. With the circulation problem down below the belt, I suppose ...

Most strippers I know put up with it because they realize that they all encourage it by acting the part of nymphomaniac and suggesting, ever so vaguely, that there may be more than a good dance available to any guy who opens his wallet. Without the come on, no income for strippers.

Yes, FONDL, if one is going to take an active role, there does come a "point of no return." However, in my case, the dancer has always taken the initiative in that direction. But, even under those circumstances, once you accept, you have crossed the line.

Chitown, don't you lose that "plausable deniability" when you proposition the girl? Don't you lose it when you ask for extras and/or give her an extra tip for such performance? I doubt if the legal/illegal consideration has much to do with it.

I think a lot of strip club customers just think that many dancers are whores, and think those who aren't are in the wrong business. I too feel sorry for the "nice" girls who have to put up with it. It's exactly why my ATF quit dancing. And I avoid clubs where I know that extras are readily available.

Sierra Sapphire Crystal Ecstasy Cheyenne Paris Porche Lexus Misty Exotica ...

Keeping stage names secret isn't as much an issue when you don't name the club.

Jpak: It's ok to tell us about your adventues. I do it myself. But you have got to learn to leave out the names. I do very well in that department at my favorite club with my favorite dancers but that is because they trust me to not "kiss and tell". I had a GFE OTC experience last month for $100 and that was after she gave her brother money to leave us alone. Bones and some others know who she is but they also know to keep her name out of it. I am hoping for a repeat session during these next 3 days.

Iggiveup: Maybe I should keep the names a secret However, it just seems like none of the girls or any other personell at the club visit's this site. The past 3 1'2years I have been going to this club I have only ran into 1dancer that actually reads websites on the internet about stripclubs and that was the pinksite not tuscl. So that's why I wasn't worried about mentioning names, but there is always room for error so I will leave their names out next time.

Dennyspade: I didn't say that I shared a smoke with them, heck I don't even like cigarettes. Why not share the specifics, the other guys on this board who have OTC sessions do it. U guess next time I will keep it to myself.

FONDL: I don't normally go into stripclubs looking for sex, but the girls mentioned are caring on in a manner that a customer would think they would do something. Heck Jade approached me about the session.

Well, if only a lawyer could come up with that explanation, at least I come by it honestly....

"I really hadn't planned on doing a session"

FONDL, you raise an interesting and valid point. I don't go to a strip club expecting to pick up a dancer, although I am generally open to that possibility, and it has happened several times. I suppose that a rationalization is as follows: Strip joints are legal, by and large. Escort services are illegal, by and large. If you patronize a strip club looking for sex, your chances of success plummet, but you have some degree of plausible deniability that you were doing/seeking anything illegal. If you patronize an escort service looking for sex, your chances of success soar, but you lose the element of plausible deniability.

Whether the availiability of plausible deniability in the strip club option makes up for the lack of chance of success depends on how much one values each element.

I do feel sorry for dancers who only want to dance having to put up with guys looking for sex.

Way to go, Jpac. Are you going to take your cousin along to the other club? It sounds like you should. BTW, I don't think a dancer being more hands-on means she'll do OTC, but it doesn't hurt.

Seems to me that this is the logical extension of guys who's objective in clubbing is to see how much they can get. Personally I don't understand why if that's your goal you don't just hire an escort. I've always thought that strip clubs were for guys like me who weren't interested in going that far. Guess I'm wrong.

JPac:

Against the Better Judgment of the Senior Members of this Board, you pursued some OTC pleasure (although, it appears the your cousin and Jade actually consummated and closed the sale).

My question is: Are you proud/ashamed/disgusted/pleased?

Why tell us so many specifics? Do you want us to vicariously re-live this experience? Marijuana-smoking, Motel 6, Mavens- without-morals and values are not exactly my SC fantasy. However, if that was what you wanted .... Congratulations!