In search of OTC

I dislike paying a dancer just to sit and talk, but I do see the method behind the madness.

This has been said before, everyone has a different way of approaching this.

For me, I used to use escorts, sugar daddy sites, etc. and currently for me I find OTC coming from a strip club to be the most rewarding with the least amount of effort. By reading reviews here it really makes it a lot easier to find clubs where such a proposition is usually accepted and even encouraged by the strippers working there.

For some reason I am at a point in my life where I just want to have sex and want them to go away. Strippers seem to be the best option for this for me right now. I don't feel as sleazy with a stripper as I do with an escort and strippers usually give more of a GFE session IMO.

If she can't dance and talk at.the same time then she probably can't juggle OTC and work schedule

I love being in the club, and I love OTC. I'd hate to give either up.

For myself, like Ish, I don't like paying a dancer to sit and talk. We sit and talk for some amount of time, and then I buy dances to pay for that time. In a typical trip, I buy two VIPs ($200, of which she keeps $120-$140 depending on whether the club is taking extra from her based on her check-in time).

I like to see a stripper 2-3 times before I ask for OTC, partially because I feel this increases the number of immediate agreements, and partially because I like feeling comfortable with her. If she waffles, unless I'm certain it's a hardcore, impossible-to-change-her-mind "no", I'll see her a couple more times to try to change her mind (and often, I can get her there); I'll even reduce the expected service level (e.g. "BJ is fine") to increase her comfort level to try to get her to a "yes". My experience is that once we're in the room and she's comfortable, the service level limits fly out the door.

i've never done OTC, but i've also only ever asked about it once. while i don't have any OTC experience, common sense tells me that a dancer would probably be more likely to meet a customer OTC if he's visited her multiple times in the club.

this is why i waited a while before i brought up OTC to my CF. but i now realize that she's never gonna meet me OTC and she's just been stringing me along. dancers don't want to tell customers the word "no" when they request OTC, because they want you to keep spending on them ITC and they don't wanna kill the fantasy.

my CF has been giving me answers like "maybe" and "i don't know about my schedule yet". and now that i've asked her about it twice, i know she's never gonna meet me OTC :-(

god, i hate you guys who can pull off OTC successfully lol only kidding :-)

My batting average for otc is far from 100 percent but with the approach I use it seems respectable. Worst case is i waste a couple visits and a couple 100....but at least it is usually enjoyable even if it does not go to otc. I don't chase any woman forever. If it doesn't happen after a couple visits I move on. But as I think most mongers will tell you, it is not rare.

@GoVikings - Regarding your CF, I would either stop asking her and settle into the reality that the only fun you'll have with her ITC. Or, stop giving her your business and go hunting for a new CF.

It doesn't always work, but sometimes they turn the corner on OTC once you crimp the cash hose.

So far with my approach I have never gone beyond 2 to 3 visits to try to turn ITC to OTC. I assume it could happen but I feel like I don't want to make that bet.

^^^Ya, agree with Ish. If it's OTC you're after (no problem if you are willing to settle for just seeing her ITC, I'm talking about if OTC is a requirement):

- Anything except "yes" means "no". And even "yes" is sometimes "no" -- she might say yes to keep you on the hook, then something always comes up to prevent the OTC.

- Best to set a rule for yourself on how long you'll wait, and rigidly stick to it. For me, I'll give her a couple more visits, then move on.

- To the disbelief of some people here, I *have* experienced girls who waffled on the topic, eventually agreeing. A little extra comfort level, and as I described above, some retreat on my part of the service level expected, can give her that extra push, if she's on the fence. That why I'm willing to do the "couple more visits" waiting period, rather than ending it right there, it has paid off

@ call me--- i've only asked her twice, and i don't plan asking again. getting her OTC isn't that big of a deal to me......because i can still get what i truly want from her ITC.......but what i want would be better if i could do it OTC :-)

Go to the club pick the girl you want and spend all your money on her. No VIPS or dances. Just make it rain on her and she will give you her number or ask for yours. That's what I do and it works all the time. Your stay should be less than 30 minutes. That's how OTC works for me. Don't ask. Because ALL dancers do OTC when they see that "rain"

Like GoVikings, I only ever tried once for OTC. I visited this particular club to see this girl 6 times before I asked her. I knew she was going to say "no". But, sometimes you gotta use the "you don't know until you ask" approach. In my career, I deal with people all the time and I have become very good at being able to read people like a book. My instincts told me she would not go for it. I was right. She didn't use the word "no", but she said something like "My boyfriend doesn't like me hanging out with customers." But then she asked me what I had in mind. I told her "Stuff we can't do here". She did give me a curious looking smile, but that was the end of the discussion.

I don't see any reason to go back and spend any more money on her. As it is, I was ready to move on. Prior to my last visit to see her, I went to clubs where you can get ITC extras, and I also found these clubs to have several girls that are just as hot as her, and some of them even hotter.

Right now, I am just going to stick to ITC at these other clubs until I find one that is worth asking for OTC.

I certainly don't go to SCs *exclusively* to find OTC, but it has happened a surprising number of times the past couple of years. Tomorrow I'm meeting my new CF for lunch and some OTC fun. It will be my 16th OTC date (not counting two that were dinner-only) with my 4th OTC girl. I'm certainly confident enough these days to ask for it, but in fact all four of these girls asked me during or right after a VIP. In general, we already have several VIPs and some long afternoons together ITC before we meet OTC. I can't imagine meeting a stripper and taking her immediately to a hotel room as soon as her shift is over!

I guess it's all about comfort level. If I have one real good trip to club and spend a good amount of time with a lady, I can feel comfortable enough for next meeting to be OTC. In other cases, I may need a second ITC meeting before suggesting OTC.

The only reason? No. I enjoy the whole experience. But would I go much less if OTC was not part of the equation? No doubt.

I use the clubs exclusively for obtaining OTC girls. There's at least 1-2 girls I'll see per club. My circuit is about 6 different clubs I frequent. Depends what mood I'm in and where I am in my day and travels as to who I may contact. I hadn't been doing this as often the last couple of years as I met one special girl that got my full attention. Had to pull the plug on her though so I'm back to my old habits.

First ITC, then OTC, then she'll be my girlfriend

Most of them at Ritz Houston will do OTC. Take a couple dances make her offer.