What area of your SC game do you feel needs improvement ?
Papi_Chulo
Miami, FL (or the nearest big-booty club)
For me if it's over-SCing.
Since I don't plan my SC visits and usually go in the spur of the moment, I tend to go more often than I should both in terms of over-spending and not enjoying it as much .
These days strip clubbing is my "social activity" per se, I've never been much of a drinker thus hanging out at a bar or bar-hopping has never been my thing although I would do it some when I was younger b/c that is what my friends sometimes liked to do.
These days I find myself hitting the SCs at times out of boredom (don't feel like being at home so might as well go grab some titties and get grinded-on), or just go b/c I've had a rough-day(s), etc, but my visits more and more are just about "might as well go" vs being eager to go thus I spend more than I should and don't enjoy it as much mainly b/c I don't let the desire build-up sorta speak.
So - is there an area you feel you would like to improve your SC game, or are you in a good groove right now?
Since I don't plan my SC visits and usually go in the spur of the moment, I tend to go more often than I should both in terms of over-spending and not enjoying it as much .
These days strip clubbing is my "social activity" per se, I've never been much of a drinker thus hanging out at a bar or bar-hopping has never been my thing although I would do it some when I was younger b/c that is what my friends sometimes liked to do.
These days I find myself hitting the SCs at times out of boredom (don't feel like being at home so might as well go grab some titties and get grinded-on), or just go b/c I've had a rough-day(s), etc, but my visits more and more are just about "might as well go" vs being eager to go thus I spend more than I should and don't enjoy it as much mainly b/c I don't let the desire build-up sorta speak.
So - is there an area you feel you would like to improve your SC game, or are you in a good groove right now?
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As my level of OTC/SB activity has increased, I find that I do prefer it, even though it comes with some extra hassle.
I think I might be in about the same boat as you, actually. Going often and ending up spending the budget on quantity rather than quality just by default. I draw inspiration from Subraman and JohnSmith69's posts in particular on the quality aspect.
I could use some pointers on my "Making it Rain" techniques.
Also, my quest to become a Pee Troll has so far been unsuccessful (I hope to get an article published on this one). I need to step up my interviewing/BSing skills.
my local clubs suck, so i rarely go to them. and because i don't travel regularly, i usually only get to clubs when i'm out of town-- which is occasionally... not regularly
i'm slowly working on getting my CF OTC.....its gonna happen soon......i can feel it :-)
One of my favs is already on shaky ground, and there has to be a Sword of Damocles hanging over the other.
I have thought long and hard about this subject and I believe you might get better results if you improved your vocabulary to refer to pee trolls as either men's room attendants, or piss moppers.
And knowing when to fold 'em, i.e. if the dancer that I'm looking for isn't there or available, or there isn't anything that I really am interested in, being able to walk out the club with my money, rather than lowering my interests and blowing my money on the B-team.
Also, more PL restraint. If I didn't want dances from you before you walked up to me, I shouldn't have my principles lowered because you started stroking the goose's neck, and he starts being the decision maker.
I need to have some restraint, so I have better times seeing favs and only go on "no fav" visits when I'm sure favs aren't available to fit my schedule or I'm in "find new talent" mode. Also need to be able to leave and be okay with getting dances another day if I'm not impressed with the talent level, save money for good visits only.
The good news is, I am on "vacation" this week and will have plenty of time to look at opportunities at employers that may pay a better wage/salary.
LOL - many a PL' s achilles heel
Well - patience *is* a virtue - I've been in clubs where I've either seen the parking-lot most;y empty and thought it'd be not worth it to go in - or been in the club and nothing moves my PL-needle then "Ms Made My Day" suddenly appears out of nowhere - I guess at some point one has to fold but maybe not at first sign of trouble.
This came to fruition a while back when I was hitting a small Miami black club that I like hitting on Sat or Su afternoons - the club actually has good, and maybe better talent, on Sat/Su afternoons since there seem to be part-time weekend dancers that come-in to make a little extra $$$ as a weekend side-hustle to their regular 9-to-5 gig and the part-timers are often good-looking and add to the regular dancer-crew - anyway this is a late closing club like all the Miami clubs and like most Miami clubs has 3-dancer shifts (day, mid, night) - on one weekend afternoon visit to this club I came in around 3 pm and was out of $$$ by the time the mid-shift girls started arriving around 5pm+ many of whom were the fine-looking part-time weekenders and I had already blown all my $$$ on the ok girls and had none left over for the really-good girls that came in later in the afternoon - thus I have learned to be a bit more PL-judicious as to make sure I don't miss out on the best girls b/c I blew my wad on just ok girls.
One thing for me is, that when I am attending a club that is known to have extras as well as problem-girls, I often forget which is which. I tend to ASSUME that if a club is in the neighborhood of service-able clubs, that I should therefore be free to take any one or another girl back to the back room and get that level of service for which the neighborhood has established itself as famous. Not so! I should read the reviews AND REMEMBER THE DESCRIPTIONS OF THE ROBs much much MUCH more carefully. Doh. You can of course guess what the negative consequences will be, of slacking off on that skill. :(
Yeah - Miami in particular can have some mercenary tip-parades where the bitches are like killer-bees especially the Cuban chicks.
IME just saying "no" and leaving it at that is what works best - I just say "no" and fix my eyes on the stage and away from her - strippers are like quicksand, the more excuses/reasons one comes up w/ the further often one sinks in stripper-quicksand LOL
What I haven't done yet is get experience with ITC and OTC extras with those dancers from whom I want to get extras... except in TJ HK. But that doesn't count. Whenever I bring up ITC extras the answer is always "no" or "I don't want to get in trouble" or "we'll get in trouble."
I also have to get good at not getting ripped off by the girls that I'm attracted to. Once I find a girl that I like, and is my type... I spend too much for what I get. Better to just call a call girl or save my money.
Going less often rests your senses so they can be heightened once you decide to make a long waited stop inside a club.
"... more PL restraint. If I didn't want dances from you before you walked up to me, I shouldn't have my principles lowered because you started stroking the goose's neck, and he starts being the decision maker ..."
Hmmm, that seems like a perfectly reasonable reason to change one's mind to me. That's one part of my game I'm not looking to improve on.
Good way to put-it - it would benefit my SC enjoyment, and def my wallet, if I implemented this approach vs my spur-of-the-moment shotgun approach l- as a result of my shotgun approach in the last 2 years or so I have often felt SC burn-out but still continue w/ my habitual visiting.
Going to a strip club is a essentially a subtle neg to begin with, and it can mess with your self-worth if you settle into the frame too regularly. E.g., when my car broke down at a mall, some guys ran up to help push it, but at the strip club, I might have to pay someone $5 to park it.
Even sadder is that many strippers drive nice new cars but some of us PLs that give them our $$$ drive POS cars that break-down, LOL
And fuck you jackie........er flagooner
Oh, please, do tell!
I have been on an AMP tear lately! I get the same rush that I do when I go to a club - not knowing if things will turn out the way I want them to, and usually not knowing who the masseuse will be. It all started about a month ago when I went for a massage at a legit place and quite unexpectedly wound up with a happy ending. I was hooked. And my clubbing has suffered tremendously as a result. But I'm sure the infatuation with the AMP's will soon pass and I'll be back to help support all of those single strippin' moms.
It will never pass! Just go in phases. Once you have had the combined experience of a good massage and an orgasm, you will always want it again at some point.
If you're ever in Atlanta and need a recommendation just let me know.
I'll definitely ping you if I am ever in Atlanta. I'm sure there is crazy fun to be had there!
For me it's 45 minute to COI and an hour to one of my faves, Trop Lei. But we just gotta grin n bear it if we want to reap the rewards of these awesome clubs.
Now, these are all sweet ladies and we've had some really good times so it is hard not to spend time with them and tip something but it does get a little pricey spending on a dancer I may not be targeting.
I've clubbed in so many clubs in the valley and for so long that it is rare that I don't run into an old favorite whenever I enter a club.
Oh, and, shit, still way to many mercy dances but I'm much better at saying no now.
As far as erotic awkward - with the exception of my last encounter (she did some boob sucking and seemed really into it) it is all mechanical with very little passion, tho as I get to know some of the women (their English is usually terrible) it can get playful with some butt slapping and dirty talk. I have had more than a few cuties ask me to "show them" how to touch a woman, which I happily do, of course. They have never had a woman come in expecting services, and they have no idea what to do. It's not as physically obvious when a female is aroused, and some need a help in getting started. I have picked up on some very helpful tricks in helping to let the masseuse know that I am interested and I'm getting better at it each time. Every new AMP I enter I have to start the process all over again. But often it's more than worth it.
Unlike in stripclubs I think that I get less bang for my buck, actually. I have yet to get (or give) any DATY, and only recently did I have an experience that went beyond the "rub n little tug". Women mongers are still very, very rare in AMP's, and the Asian culture that permeates most AMP's is still very culturally conservative. Most if not all of the women I meet are FOB and bring with them their country's social norms which are usually pretty repressive. But since I jump around between AMP's as much as I do between stripclubs, I am trying to spread the lovet as best I can.
I feel your pain. I love table showers and good massages, which is the only reason I go to an AMP, cause I'm not really into Oriental women that can't speak English. Plus, I don't think I've ever got the same girl twice, even when I made the effort to visit one place on a consistent basis.
Atlanta always has some FBSM places or independents in operation. These tend to have non-Oriental, English speaking girls available. Several of the girls at the place I use are 8s or up and one of my two favs is a legit 10. The problem here is that the massage is often pro forma and just the excuse for the customer to be naked and for the girl to be touching you. So, you have to try out lots of girls to find ones that are actually good at the massage (the person who books the appts, of course, says they are all good). My two favs are excellent.
The place I use is good about scheduling. I can say "when is X working next" and I can make sure I see a favorite. If I'm horny "right now" then someone is usually available.
Damn, all this writing about them makes me want to go!!!