OT: Job Advice - bird in hand or two in the bush

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GACA
Un-retired: Met my ATF. Married her. Divorcing her.
So recently a previous boss opened a position in his department with the idea of me applying and filling the position. One of those "strong candidate already identified" type of openings. Turns out it would basically be a lateral move, only I'd have a bit more influence in his department than I do in mine.

Well my current boss didn't like the idea of me lacing to work for the previous boss, made some phone calls. Now another department SVP is asking me to call him, says he can pay more money and get me more exposure, I'd just have to wait a few weeks for him to get the job posted through HR.

Timing being the issue. I have an interview this week with my previous boss for his position. I'm going to get an offer right away.

I want to be smart about how I play this thing out.... need advice on how to play out this corporate pickle.

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GACA
7 years ago
Additional info... the SVP outranks my previous boss by two levels...
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twentyfive
7 years ago
Hardest part, is probably figure out which of these guys is the winner in the long run, because that's the guy that you should be getting close to.
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san_jose_guy
7 years ago
Almost never, do you get offered a better deal than when you are on your way in. Have to factor this in.

And then of course, the real issue has to be, what do you want, not what opportunities are being presented to you.

SJG
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Jascoi
7 years ago
damn. opportunity knocks. from various doors. try to pick wisely. personally i have no idea. butt maybe go with the one with the best track record or the one that your best gain so far has been with.
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RandomMember
7 years ago
(1) get three scraps of paper and label them 1,2,3
(2) but in box and shake
(3) pick one at random.
(Kidding, but you did come to a stripper forum for career advice)

Congrats on having three hiring managers after you, which must be a nice feeling. There are so many things you left out of your description: Which has the most interesting work? Which provides the best experience and job security for your future goals? The "personality" of each department and how you think you will fit in. I guess the only advice I have is not to worry too much about a smallish short-term raise; everything else is usually more important. Good luck.
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GACA
7 years ago
Just worried about betting on a hypothetical job versus an already produced job
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GACA
7 years ago
1)Solid advice Random...

2)@ 25, the thing is both are winners in their own right, one is just younger (early 40's vs 50's) so hasn't had as much time to climb the rungs.

Haven't worked with this SVP before, so I don't know how I will fit really but he's offering more money and higher title.

Ya just a hard position to be in because the SVP is a reaction to my previous boss opening his position
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twentyfive
7 years ago
@GACA. Here the thing to consider if all things being equal the one closest to your own age is probably more desirable to hitch your wagon to, because as the folks start retiring, assuming you work at a place where people spend their careers, you will have an ally who can help you because the danger point is when your advocates start to leave they bring in younger people to fill positions the newer people will naturally align with younger people that might be more open to what ever new ideas are coming up and in theory could force you to be isolated and possibly purge the older workers just to prove themselves.
I personally am not the best person to give this advice as I have spent my life as a business owner and entrapenuer rather than as a worker, I have led every organization that I have been involved in but I am sympathetic to your fears I have a number of people that I employ some have been with me for decades.
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JamesSD
7 years ago
In general I feel like if you take the money, long term you don't burn bridges. You can honestly tell the others your choice was based on cash.

But this is why many corporations have strict department transfer policies
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Bj99
7 years ago
Just bc it's a latteral move doesn't mean it has to pay the same, or have the same perks. This guy opened up a job for you, but you already have a job, so there should be something in it for you, other than just more exposure. Most positions have a pay range, so you can still make more. If you are at the top of your pay range, don't take another position without advancing bc you need to stay in that position for a period before you can expect a promotion. Consider his position in the company vs the other guy. They both want you on their team, so join the winning team.
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GACA
7 years ago
@bj if that is your ass in your avatar, God damn.

Men should pays to see a perfect ass like that
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Jascoi
7 years ago
that's a like!!!!
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skibum609
7 years ago
I stay where I have a job, but I am self-employed and don't know much about job searches any longer.
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Bj99
7 years ago
Most of them do ;)
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MackTruck
7 years ago
Pick the one with the biggest tits
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ppwh
7 years ago
The question I have reading this is how did your current boss find about the other position opening up and that you are the prime candidate?

The thing I would be looking at is that corporate management types tend to be pretty political. If they feel like you're being disloyal and dicking them around playing them against each other, you could end up pissing off both of them.

I would be inclined to take the one that pays more, all other factors being equal. Someone who can make it happen getting you a better-placed and higher-paying gig will probably be able to make other things happen, too. I would suggest picking one, though, and pursuing that as your main goal and avoiding making it seem like they're getting into a bidding war.
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jester214
7 years ago
Unless I was desperate to get out of where I was I'd pass on the lateral move and hold out for the move up. Even if that falls through it sounds like there will be other opportunities.
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san_jose_guy
7 years ago
GACA, you have to chart your own course, and not be overly influenced by "opportunities".

You have not posted at all about what it is that you want.

SJG
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