Proposed schedule of appropriate SC usage by young single men (e.g. fishstix, my

Every situation is different.

The consensus thinking that if you are young you should be able to get laid all the time w/o having to pay for it I think is casting way too wide a net.


Yes - especially when young, IMO best to stick w/ civvies and try to have good relationships including good sexual relationships - but if for w/e reason this is not feasible or satisfying enough; then IMO best to go to SCs if one enjoys them; i.e. better than to be hard-up and lonely all/most of the time.

But - a young guy needs to be aware of at least a couple of things:

+ don't try to find a GF in a strip-club (can happen but very high-failure rate and often too much bad-drama)

+ it can be easy to flush a hell of a lot of $$$ down the SC drain - may still be worth it as long as one enjoyed themselves but a young person still has their whole financial life ahead of them and should try to establish themselves while they are young and have the energy

+ a young guy needs to be careful his viewpoint of women does not become too warped as women only being sexual objects b/c this will interfere w/ them having normal relations w/ women

Jesus H Christ.

In the long run, strip clubbing (and not getting married) can be better financially for many.

You just have to make sure you never fall in love with a dancer.

Hmmm.. If I was young and single is think about making me some Oreo cookies until I got full.

"I'd" ^^^^ not is.

Yea... i'm more of a chocolate chip cookie kinda guy... so......

These god damn rap songs, all they talk about is strip clubs, maybe that's how I got into the strip club lifestyle.

Eh, do what thou wilt, and all that.

When I was young, dumb, and full of cum, I tended to:
- SC, with the main purpose of extras, relatively more often when I had a GF, FWB, or just some side pussy. The main objective was strange.
- SC relatively MUCH less, if at all, if I wasn't getting sex at all. At those times, I spent all my time in bars and clubs trying to score pussy.

Kept me happy.

Why do people say "title says it all" and then go on to add 5 sentences explaining?

Lol!

I forget what it was like to be a young single man who could fuck a lot of single girls. I got married at 21 and by the time I got divorced I was an old man. I don't have any advice of any importance for anyone.

My 2 cents is go as much as you want or can afford. You know your reasons for going, regardless of whether you can get civilians at regular clubs or elsewhere.

I would just echo the warning that attempting to find a GF at the strip club will be costly, financially, emotionally, and likely result in ruin. Strip clubs, in my opinion, are best taken as a source of variety, not as the main course.

But essentially, do what you want. Who cares how often other guys say you should go or how often they used to go or currently go themselves.

^ well said

When I was young, there were no strip clubs and I got by. I don't think I would have needed them.

I am young, and single. A part of me wishes I would have never stumbled on to this "hobby". It happened almost by accident about a year ago. Since then I've spent a lot of money both in and out of the club.

Papi hits on a good point. I'll be the first to admit, I haven't had much success in the dating world over the past few years. I think I've used the club to sort of fill the void. It's a sad lonely life. I routinely tell my married friends that I think the strip club was invented for them (married guys), not for me. I have a tendency to subconsciously look for the wrong things in the club (affection, emotional connection). I'm A LOT better now than I was 6-8 months ago, which came from more experience, a couple bad experiences that sort of jaded me, and just consciously reminding myself what the club is all about, and what it's not about. Now I do a better job (but not a perfect one) at having fun in the club (and OTC), and then forgetting it when I walk out the door.

I don't get some of you guys, at least timothyjames55 realizes something isn't right.

Like my hero jackslash, I too got married at a young age (right out of college), and am still married. I'm closer to 40 now than 30. Somewhere in my mid 20s I stumbled into a strip club traveling for work, previously I had only been in 2 clubs my entire life. It wasn't until I hit around 27 that I started going on a somewhat regular basis to strip clubs when I was traveling. After about 6 months I started fucking strippers and knew how to handle myself and make ITC and OTC a more regular thing.

You young guys just baffle me sometimes, I go out with friends, a few which have younger wives (we are in our late 30s and these girls are in their late 20s or early 30s) and every time I could have banged many of the unmarried tag-a-long girls, but I have a rule, never in my hometown. When I'm out of town I pick up women all the time in hotel bars, restaurants etc. - Tinder has made it more easier than ever.

I still like strippers though, since I'm married I have to be discreet and when you fuck a civie girl, she's probably going to want to call you the next day, where a stripper won't. That's one of the reasons married guys like me like strip clubs, where you single guys have nothing to fear if a civvie is calling you the next day, we do.

shailynn,

- girls/women on tinder don't communicate that much, so it usually doesn't lead to anything, you've admitted this yourself in a previous post.

- girls/women give their phone numbers to guys they have no intention of talking to.

- girls/women are very flaky and unreliable

As I posted above, I thoroughly agree with the general notion that if you're young, *if* you're not getting pussy for free, it's probably the best ideas to spend most of your time pursuing free pussy. Beyond that, to come to the defense of the tuscl pups:

1. Strange is good. No matter what age you are, if you have a GF, FWB, etc., it's still the case that having sex with someone other than your GF/FWB is super exciting. And by doing so in a strip club, you're getting some hot, exciting side pussy, that is NOT going to call you the next day, etc.

2. Hot chicks are good. Okay, as old guys it's fun to remember, and over-romanticize the old days. But I will posit that: EXACTLY 0% of you were pulling chicks as hot as top-tier strippers, even back in the day. In my 20s, I did pull some girls who were hot enough to be strippers, but if I think about the top 10 strippers I fucked -- no way did I ever pull a girl that hot. My ATATF is the most sexually alluring and desirable woman I've ever laid my hands on, and she would have been completely out of my reach back then -- and out of reach of every single one of you, too. Most guys will never in their lives get close to fucking a 9.5+ -- that includes young single guys, but the strip club is a way to make that happen.

So, I totally understand why single guys go to strip clubs. I just personally would recommend not doing it very often, unless you also have at least one civilian girl -- it's too easy to take your eyes off the prize, in the fantasy world of strip clubs

I got married in my late 20s and didn't set foot in a strip club until age 38. I was dragged in be a perverted friend at work. I don't have nearly the reverence for strip clubs that @Subra has, and if strip clubs disappeared from the face of the earth it wouldn't make a particle of difference to me.

If you're a young guy and spending, say, 1% of your take home pay on strip clubs, I think it's perfectly harmless. If you're a wall-street guy, a freshly-minted MD, or a trust-fund baby, then strip clubs are fine. Otherwise, think twice. If it becomes an obsession (e.g, a younger version of @Dugan or @Smith) then I would say it could really set you back financially since you're not taking advantage of the magic of compounding. I also have a great suspicion that young guys obsessed with strip clubs are awkward and incompetent around the opposite sex. Hanging around strip clubs just makes the problem worse.

I started clubbing in my 30's; I'm now 57. Frankly when I was in my 20's I couldn't have afforded it anyway.

To the extent that old guys here are telling young guys, "no reason for you to be in a stripclub", I think that's wrong. There are some fun things in the strip club that you won't get outside it.

But, I also agree with RM that strip clubs can lead to unhealthy addictions and emotionally and financially destructive behaviors, at an age where you're not as financially or emotionally all the way prepared for it. Agree that if you're spending more than a small portion of your finances on it, or using it to fill an emotional hole, there's a real problem ... but that's true at any age.

5. Young single men should enjoy strip clubs only until they realize they can get better women in real life without spending inordinate amounts of cash.

When I was in my teens, strippers seemed pretty cool with the idea of dating, but I never ended up dating one. Other girls who would spend a lot of time with with me and not go off to be fondled by other men (at least not on a weekly schedule) killed the urge to go to strip clubs.

Despite what people say, finding a GF in a strip club, unless you deliberately avoid it, it's all but guaranteed.

And as far as that being more difficult than other relationships, not so clear.

The main thing of strip clubs is the aesthetics, the dolling up, makeup and high heels, and then just the openness and availability. You imbibe that and then recreate it in your outside life. And maybe you are going out with strippers too.

SJG

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Subraman: I'm well aware I have an addictive personality and that clubbing is one of them. Luckily my addictions are under control, but bit's a fine line to even think that. I don't do coke because after having done it, I know it would become an addiction. I do still drink and smoke pot....and fuck girls, but I also pay my bills.

Clubbing is an addiction; no doubt about it. I've had gaps in my attendance when I've had a steady g/f and I consider that a good thing. I like to think it means I value real relationships over the P4P ones. In fact, I have a g/f 2000 miles from me that's considering moving to Chicago. If she does, I'll quit clubbing because she'll be my 2nd wife.