I figured it was about the pipeline but I guess it is broader than that.
-->""We climbed up the crane this morning, and occupied it and locked and chained ourselves in," the [Greenpeace] environmental group's board chairman Karen Topakian, 62, told The Two-Way."
"Topakian, who lives in San Francisco, said the environmental group's protest aimed to send a message against Trump's plans and actions that he has already carried out. His positions on climate change, immigration and religious minorities motivated this protest, she said, among many other issues. She is lesbian and said she was also concerned about LGBT rights under the Trump administration." --> END quote
There was a lot of hyperbole in hand wringing when Obama was elected 8 years ago which I rightfully laughed off. They said we'd be socialists and communists. Lots of posts here on that in fact. But Trump loves Putin and is already quietly silencing dissent. The EPA was banned on making press releases as of today, and Natioal Parks had to remove all gobal warming data from their web sites.
I'm not in a panic yet because the backlash is becoming widespread...but try getting a book on homosexuality in Moscow today. Scientific data will be equally hard to get in the US in 4 years.
Obama was going to "take away our guns" and his 8 years was a gun maker's wet dream. Obama sold as many guns as all the presidents before him. Is Trump really going to crack down on freedom of information? If he closes TUSCAL, we're doomed.
I admit Greenpeace can be rather goofy at times, but like Trump supporters ignore his goofiness, I make allowances. I like where their heart is if not there heads.
ANGELA DAVIS: Over the next months and years, we will be called upon to intensify our demands for social justice, to become more militant in our defense of vulnerable populations. Those who still defend the supremacy of white, male, hetero patriarchy had better watch out. The next 1,459 days of the Trump administration will be 1,459 days of resistance—resistance on the ground, resistance in the classrooms, resistance on the job, resistance in our art and in our music. This is just the beginning. And in the words of the inimitable Ella Baker, we who believe in freedom cannot rest until it comes.
Strongly agree with @Rockstar about assault on freedom of information and freedom of press. Trump was talking about suing the NY Times back in Oct, and changing libel laws. If there's a crackdown on the media, I really will start to panic.
^^^ A crackdown on the Media does scare me, but on this big wide internet I know I can always get views other then Fox or Brietbart from around this big globe of ours. Right now besides American sources I have the Toronto Star, the BBC and Guardian UK bookmarked just in the event of that possibility. It is also essential that we support the freedom of the press in our country at this time, and lobby congress to not let them be muzzled. We've seen that all we are going to get out of Sean Spicer and Kellyanne Conway are 'alternative facts'.
Hugh, I'm afraid it will get worse before it gets better. I have faith we'll be just fine but I'm keeping a close eye on it. I could be a fat ugly woman carrying a sign as part of a march if I get really scared. and I'm already a little scared.
I can't remember "the right" making all the threats of violence and destruction of property when Obama was elected versus all the ruckus the left is making these days. Guess that's your compassion for you. Just get your people out and win the election next time, instead of staying at home and then crying that you don't like the result after the fact.
I agree that when Obama won, there was very little ruckus, even here on TUSCL The fact so many people are afraid of what Trump will do to destroy the status quo is quite telling. It's not just the wacky liberal left too...it's everyone who isn't far right.
Yes, liberals got lazy; the hatred for Clinton was palpable. Even Obama was more popular than she was, which is how someone as inexperienced and mean spirited as Trump won. We like to say 'God bless America'...well divine intervention would be greatly appreciated.
"Twitter may have been a revolutionary information development allowing him to by-pass the media gate-keepers"
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...or a way to communicate with people who only have the attention span to read 140 characters at a time.
The gene pool of the liberal
Lefties has got to be below the rest of the national population. You see it everyday on the news and from their TUSCL members.
The one thing the so called "educated and compassionate" liberals lack, is common sense. Daily proof found on the news and TUSCL members with their idealistic posting. Like yeah, the world is fair and everyone is entitled. Such ritards!
@Meat just because they aren't Trumptards doesn't mean they are liberal just means that they have an attention span that can digest more than 140 characters in one go. Lying is lying no matter which side you are on.
Greenpeace is like PETA. The problem with radicals is that the message gets lost. Also some of their demands are pretty unreasonable, at least compared with what more normal people would argue for. Not for a strict balance. But rather a practical "congruence." Congruency might be better than balance ... since not everything is going to get equal weight. Also the Marxist philosophies are just not going to happen.
The traditionalists have 2000 years of success and history on their side. We've moved past our heritage of brutal kings and dictators to a blend of a Roman republic with some french Age of Enlightenment ideas, but not a Greek democracy, like some lefts would prefer. But all in all it's not bad and the blend of new and old works for us. The progressives may have been on the right side of history with Civil Rights and they are still reliving the past success there but the Marxist ideas the progressives keep trying to propagate aren't going to work and history seems to show Marxist ideas won't work now or ever.
Given that we do adopt new ideas from time to time (Republic, Age of Enlightenment, Civil Rights) perhaps there needs to be congruent blend of 90:10. Maybe 90-traditional to 10-progressive? Or maybe 98:2? The exact ratio doesn't matter. But the history of success seems to beg the question that tradition has stood the test of time and shouldn't be discarded. However, as a scientist I hypothesize that it doesn't seem likely that everything we ever need is perfectly written in dead scrolls 2000 years ago or even 200 years ago and that nothing needs to change ever. Mankind is not that infallible. And yes, the same conclusion extends to any crackpot progressive ideas today, too. It's an evolving process.
@ Dominic Marxism isn't progressive conflating them is completely incorrect, actually many conservatives as well as liberals are progressive. The morons railing against progressiveness are just morons they'd be arguing against pasteurization of milk or vaccines for disease if they thought anyone would listen.
>(Meat72 The gene pool of the liberal
>Lefties has got to be below the rest of the national population. You >see it everyday on the news and from their TUSCL members.
This 'leftie' (sic) is intelligent enough to note the genetics dog whistle used by the Nazis in Germany of the 1930s when it is introduced into a thread, and to note the same culture of misinformation which Herr Goebels used is being spewed by Sean Spicer and KelleyAnne Conway.
I'm also fortunately free enough of birth defects or genetic abnormalities to have two hands, one on each arm, with four fingers and an opposable thumb. This enables me to voice my contempt toward you, Meat, with the same upraised middle finger which is the only salute that Donald Trump will ever see from this Navy Veteran.
I suggest you reassess your ideas on genetic superiority, or at least learn to spell 'retard' before you label others with that tag. (Yes I make typos too- but spell checking is a thing)
> (txtittyfag. ) a purfect eggsample of da meatless gene pool of >CUNTservatards!!!!
Would have been funny before the 21st but I'm of a mind now that Millions of PUSSIES and their allies put fear into the conservatives with a world wide movement. We need to use pejoratives that respect this, not to be PC but out of respect for the historical complex/ zeitgeist of this fledgling movement.
Until we come up with the right insult for the right or a better meme I can relish the thought that Trump and his 'grab 'em gang' were Pussy whipped last Saturday ;)
Thanks, twentyfive. I'm never quite sure what's "left" or "liberal" or "progressive" anymore. I don't discount the right. After all you guys have all the money and property so you guys must be doing something right! I keep trying to crack the nut. Until then, I keep working hard at it. Some day. :)
My thinking is all of the anti-progressive loud mouths should go back to living in the 16th or 17th centuries, lets see how good it was without roads or schools or cars or telephones without simple painkillers for a toothache and the rest of what all of us take for granted. Me I'll stay here in the present, in my air conditioned home, get in my car and see a doctor or a dentist, go to a store and get my groceries and other things that make my life comfortable. Maybe that'll shut these idiots up but somehow, I doubt it.
BTW you got it right just keep putting one foot in front of the other, eventually you'll get where you're going, that to me is progress.
Example of a "ritard" which is a shortened version or ritardono, meaning slow and dim witted.
Proof of the lacking of mental capacity from a dipshit leaving lefty liberal, trying to prove his worth in life by believing his righteous ways are better than others. I shall even go so far as to say he may even be an extreme FAGGIT!!
Alternative Fact: Of Course all Liberals only have half a brain!
Now, if liberals are so stupid why do Scientists want to have their own march on Washington?? Could it be that people who deal in facts and observation are sick of having research hamstrung by an administration that wants to sweep 'inconvenient truths' beneath the rug?
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/natio…
Stupid fuck^^^! The majority of scientists don't agree with the "political scientists". Of course your half brain can't comprehend if man made pollution was a contributing factor to climate change, it would have a cooling effect. This was evident in the late '60's and '70's when the acid rain was prevalent in the northeast, and claims of high pollution was creating another ice age, which was what was being taught in all schools during that era. But of course liberals are incapable of independent thought, and simply regurgitate whatever they hear or see from liberal media. U guys have no life and are always trying to legitimize yourselves by jumping on the left wing agenda of feel good politics which have no basis of common sense. Forest through the trees, dummies!
^^ yeah the tinfoil hat must have cut off the circulation to his brain. Worst part is, I think the sense of humor and any cerebral function resembling a pleasant personality is the first thing to go. We're left with the devolved right wing Neanderthal who is totally unaware his world view expired in the Pleciotonic age
^^^ It obvious you know about trash! Guess it's something that you can say you've been there and done that, especially after reading your uninspiring posts.
Calm down, Meat, Americans won the election. Liberals and their globalists masters lost. Fuck 'em. As was noted before: the DNC is no longer a national party. Have you seen their disarray in recent news broadcasts? Trump has sent the stock market soaring. Jobs and national security are roaring back in the USA. Let them cry, scream, and threaten. We'll be proven right as time goes on.
^^^ That's one hell of a link Dominic. You should be highly regarded for your perspective on politics. Keep it up and I'm in agreement with you. It is pointless and furthermore only shows how those who argue about it tend to only want validation that is lacking in their lives.
It's why those who argue one side of the coin are the most ignorant of humans, especially those who claim to be progressive and educated. Most progressive and educated individuals are not liberal or conservative, they are doers. If you can do, if you can't rant about politics.
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-->""We climbed up the crane this morning, and occupied it and locked and chained ourselves in," the [Greenpeace] environmental group's board chairman Karen Topakian, 62, told The Two-Way."
"Topakian, who lives in San Francisco, said the environmental group's protest aimed to send a message against Trump's plans and actions that he has already carried out. His positions on climate change, immigration and religious minorities motivated this protest, she said, among many other issues. She is lesbian and said she was also concerned about LGBT rights under the Trump administration." --> END quote
Source: http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2…
I'm not in a panic yet because the backlash is becoming widespread...but try getting a book on homosexuality in Moscow today. Scientific data will be equally hard to get in the US in 4 years.
Obama was going to "take away our guns" and his 8 years was a gun maker's wet dream. Obama sold as many guns as all the presidents before him. Is Trump really going to crack down on freedom of information? If he closes TUSCAL, we're doomed.
ANGELA DAVIS: Over the next months and years, we will be called upon to intensify our demands for social justice, to become more militant in our defense of vulnerable populations. Those who still defend the supremacy of white, male, hetero patriarchy had better watch out. The next 1,459 days of the Trump administration will be 1,459 days of resistance—resistance on the ground, resistance in the classrooms, resistance on the job, resistance in our art and in our music. This is just the beginning. And in the words of the inimitable Ella Baker, we who believe in freedom cannot rest until it comes.
SJG
The sky is falling! Lol!
Lol!
Yes, liberals got lazy; the hatred for Clinton was palpable. Even Obama was more popular than she was, which is how someone as inexperienced and mean spirited as Trump won. We like to say 'God bless America'...well divine intervention would be greatly appreciated.
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...or a way to communicate with people who only have the attention span to read 140 characters at a time.
Lefties has got to be below the rest of the national population. You see it everyday on the news and from their TUSCL members.
The traditionalists have 2000 years of success and history on their side. We've moved past our heritage of brutal kings and dictators to a blend of a Roman republic with some french Age of Enlightenment ideas, but not a Greek democracy, like some lefts would prefer. But all in all it's not bad and the blend of new and old works for us. The progressives may have been on the right side of history with Civil Rights and they are still reliving the past success there but the Marxist ideas the progressives keep trying to propagate aren't going to work and history seems to show Marxist ideas won't work now or ever.
Given that we do adopt new ideas from time to time (Republic, Age of Enlightenment, Civil Rights) perhaps there needs to be congruent blend of 90:10. Maybe 90-traditional to 10-progressive? Or maybe 98:2? The exact ratio doesn't matter. But the history of success seems to beg the question that tradition has stood the test of time and shouldn't be discarded. However, as a scientist I hypothesize that it doesn't seem likely that everything we ever need is perfectly written in dead scrolls 2000 years ago or even 200 years ago and that nothing needs to change ever. Mankind is not that infallible. And yes, the same conclusion extends to any crackpot progressive ideas today, too. It's an evolving process.
You can't get any stupider than the alias of Txtittyfag. !!
>Lefties has got to be below the rest of the national population. You >see it everyday on the news and from their TUSCL members.
This 'leftie' (sic) is intelligent enough to note the genetics dog whistle used by the Nazis in Germany of the 1930s when it is introduced into a thread, and to note the same culture of misinformation which Herr Goebels used is being spewed by Sean Spicer and KelleyAnne Conway.
I'm also fortunately free enough of birth defects or genetic abnormalities to have two hands, one on each arm, with four fingers and an opposable thumb. This enables me to voice my contempt toward you, Meat, with the same upraised middle finger which is the only salute that Donald Trump will ever see from this Navy Veteran.
I suggest you reassess your ideas on genetic superiority, or at least learn to spell 'retard' before you label others with that tag. (Yes I make typos too- but spell checking is a thing)
Would have been funny before the 21st but I'm of a mind now that Millions of PUSSIES and their allies put fear into the conservatives with a world wide movement. We need to use pejoratives that respect this, not to be PC but out of respect for the historical complex/ zeitgeist of this fledgling movement.
Until we come up with the right insult for the right or a better meme I can relish the thought that Trump and his 'grab 'em gang' were Pussy whipped last Saturday ;)
BTW you got it right just keep putting one foot in front of the other, eventually you'll get where you're going, that to me is progress.
Proof of the lacking of mental capacity from a dipshit leaving lefty liberal, trying to prove his worth in life by believing his righteous ways are better than others. I shall even go so far as to say he may even be an extreme FAGGIT!!
Now, if liberals are so stupid why do Scientists want to have their own march on Washington?? Could it be that people who deal in facts and observation are sick of having research hamstrung by an administration that wants to sweep 'inconvenient truths' beneath the rug?
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/natio…
Arguing with liberals: Stop being rational and start making it personal
. by Aaron Clarey (The Rebel Blogger) 2015
http://www.therebel.media/arguing_with_l…
It's why those who argue one side of the coin are the most ignorant of humans, especially those who claim to be progressive and educated. Most progressive and educated individuals are not liberal or conservative, they are doers. If you can do, if you can't rant about politics.