So, I just blew a grand last night on a champagne room. No extras were had. I simultaneously feel stupid and angry at myself. Lessons learned: if she doesn't make it totally obvious and clear that there are extras in champagne room, then it's not worth it. Another lesson learned: strip club champagne room is overpriced and just not worth it in general.
Ugh. Looks like I'm going on a moratorium from all forms of erotic entertainment for a few months.
Live and learn. Is this at a club where extras are normally available, and you just happened to pick an overpriced room and non-extras hustler?
It happens. It's just part of being a PL. You kind of feel bad the next few days after dropping so much cash but then you forget about it and move on.
Out of curiosity, for a grand what do you get, if there are no extras involved?
@Shadowcat, yep, you got it. I'm definitely staying away for a long while after that shit. Should have known what with their recent bust and LE parked at the entrance every night.
@goosman, private room with girl for an hour. TV, comfy couches, champagne, bowl of fruit and cheese, and more erotic dancing/contact.
Should have used RickyBoy's The System.
Don't beat yourself up, we've all been taken at one time or another & had our major fails, just like in business some deals may blow up in our face & one loses $$$, it's part of the game - you learned your lesson like many of us have & why I rather have everything agreed upon b/f committing/paying & I also don't pay the dancer fee till the deed is done & if she flakes I won't pay & deal w/ the fall-out (unless you had to pay the $1k upfront directly to the club in which case I would have passed, too risky) .
It has happened to me. I seldom drink and when I did I had a similar non-brilliant experience in NOLA. Plus I'm actually still a noob.
You have my sympathy.
What Papi said: it's part of the adventure, but not a part to be repeated.
it all comes with the territory, just live & learn i guess...hey better to blow a grand for nothing then pay half that and get aids or some other std right?
Sorry to hear. Even if you really want to go to the VIP room, just pay for 30 mins first. You can always extend it if things are going well.
Front Room Fraternizing. You can still feed her money. But try to get a makeout session going. Then and only then, the back room, or just take her home with you.
SJG
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I feel bad if I think $80 was wasted. Unless I hit the lottery I'm never spending a grand itc. And even then I don't think I would.
Dude, I feel bad for you, that's a lot of cash. But all you can do now is live and learn. Thanks for sharing. I know it's tough to admit things like that. I hope it doesn't prevent you from going for too long.
i feel your pain futuretrackstar. been there. done that. (i can be such a slow learner.) many dozens of times in vegas.
Feel bad for you bro. Picked my DS up last night, went to a movie, dinner & then out to a club drinking. She spent the night and I had a great time. Gave her $500...
Feel bad for you bro. Picked my DS up last night, went to a movie, dinner & then out to a club drinking. She spent the night and I had a great time. Gave her $500...
A system. You gotta have a system.
Otherwise, you just get your wallet sucked dry.
Got to know what you want, before you walk in the door.
SJG
We've all been there. We'll never forget sitting at Ihop at 6am one Sunday morning eating pancakes after spending the last 8 or 9 hours partying at the SC looking at each other wondering how we spent $660 and didn't even get fucked (in a good way). That was the first and LAST time we've ever been that free with the SC cash. Live and learn.
I'm sure strippers (especially SW girls) live by the same code as Ferengi
Strippers are Pro Hustlers........... Always remember that...... All the sex OTC and date hookups are just for the big scam finale.
Remember that a stripper should never be more than an escort or a pornstar. $100-$200 max a visit/day/session. I've spent $400 by accident one night, no extras. You live and learn. Always get the smallest time unit possible, and work your way up from there. Ive had a stripper tell me "no touching, I'm not a cheap whore, you should've gotten VIP if you wanted to touch" when I got a single dance, I told her "IDK if you are a rip off in VIP", and she stormed away. If she doesn't like you for 1 time unit, she never will.
Here is the simple rule to figure out if a girl will do extra's in the private room. Just ask her before you go back to one. And never prepay that much money.
Futuretrackstar I want to be kind here..........but what are you thinking.......????? Did the sign outside say "Bunny Ranch" ......?????? You didn't go to a brothel ........you went to a strip club. At a strip club they strip....that's all they do period. Unless you get to know the girl and make prior arrangements that's all you will get. It would have been much better feeding her the money slowly and baiting her in while playing and getting as much mileage as you can in the front room. I have never done a champagne room. They are just overpriced VIP rooms for private dances that get no more mileage than any other dance.
Vip rooms are a waste, just another way for the club to get money out of patrons. I have a personal rule not to spend more than $200 on any room of any sort at a sc and that's after a test drive and only if I'm only interested in one particular dancer. The only real benefit is If you know she will deliver(I'm not an extras guy but you should get that clarified before handing over any cash) and you know you want a certain amount of time with her.
I just realized that I basically traded the opportunity to have an iPad Pro for a single hour with a naked stripper. An iPad Pro would help me a lot in my career.
I think this is the kick in the ass I needed to stay away for a good long while. I'm thinking a couple years.
"... Vip rooms are a waste, just another way for the club to get money out of patrons ..."
Yeap - often on the order of $100 just for a small room for 30-minutes not including the dancer-fee - and often a bouncer and waitress shakedown on top of that.
jestrite and chessmaster is soooo right. i made that mistake sooooooo many times.
it is too easy too get caught up with the moment.
"...feeding her the money slowly and baiting her in while playing and getting as much mileage as you can in the front room."
Coming from Jestrite50, The Undisputed Master!
SJG
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The VIP at the club I go to sucks. $40.00 to the house, $100 to the girl for 15 minutes and extras are extra. So after DATY and her returning the favor with bbbjcim, I tipped an additional 40. Smoked some killa weed on the drive home with the sunroof open and the Ramones blaring.
yea skibum... sounds like your VIP really does suck...
I went back to the club this past weekend. How long did I last?
3 weeks?? Lol
Congrats. Experience is the best teacher.
i didn't think you could stay away long. lol.
these girls are my ultimate desire and.... :)
.... and idk what comes next. My ultimate vice I suppose.
The game is the game, one just needs to know how to play-it
I'm gonna guess it was at the Platinum Plus in Allentown. I have a lifetime membership to the PP chain but have NEVER gone to one of their Champagne Rooms. In fact I don't even go to any of their clubs anymore.