What do you guys pay for an OTC date with an 8, which includes dinner and hotel sex, specifically a GFE including kissing, covered fucking, and if desired a BBBJCIM? What area of the country/size of city are you paying this amount in?
200 to 400 is the range I'm seeing out west. 200 is really lucky if I find it. Usually that's after I get to know the girl first and she likes me. 300 seems to be standard for the 8's and up, but some will try to get 350 to 500. I've found that if you balk at the higher prices, almost all of them will come down to 300 to 350. If you search though, I think you can find some 8's for 250 to 300. Just keep looking.
I guess I'm getting a good deal. I'm in S. FL, I'd say 150 would be both the average & the mean. It's not exactly as you describe, only occasionally will we do a meal or a couple drinks at a bar, but it's usually a casual dining or burger place (Fridays, Fuddruckers, etc.) and more often than not we go back to my place rather than a hotel. Both of those are my preference and I'm not sure if they influence the price, although I have noticed a fair amount of girls seem much more open to the idea of coming home with me rather than coming to my hotel room. I imagine dinner could go either way, some girls may view it as a burden and want more while others view it as a perk and take less.
I almost always pay more, maybe as much as double, for the first time. I always pay less when she initiates, how much less depends on the girl. The average quoted above is for when I initiate. I think we've got the same taste in strippers, but I think the girls I'd call 8's are not what most in my area would call 8's. My preference in body type is generally the slim/athletic types, small/firm tits, ass, waist. The Miami crowd tends to favor the Kim Kardashian type over Mila Kunis type. I'll take Mila over Kim every time.
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I almost always pay more, maybe as much as double, for the first time. I always pay less when she initiates, how much less depends on the girl. The average quoted above is for when I initiate. I think we've got the same taste in strippers, but I think the girls I'd call 8's are not what most in my area would call 8's. My preference in body type is generally the slim/athletic types, small/firm tits, ass, waist. The Miami crowd tends to favor the Kim Kardashian type over Mila Kunis type. I'll take Mila over Kim every time.