Per SW; "Men who are addicted to strip clubs and sex industry"
Papi_Chulo
Miami, FL (or the nearest big-booty club)
"... I've met many men like this, who are addicted to the sex industry so much so that their whole life is a complete waste.
What's strange is that they don't even realize it. They don't realize they're wasting their life away and all their money, and they don't realize they're even addicted (in complete denial). Kind of sad.
Have you met anyone like this? Don't you feel sorry for them? Do you think they can turn they're life around (probably not)? Have you seen someone so addicted to this industry and actually quit? ..."
https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showth…
What's strange is that they don't even realize it. They don't realize they're wasting their life away and all their money, and they don't realize they're even addicted (in complete denial). Kind of sad.
Have you met anyone like this? Don't you feel sorry for them? Do you think they can turn they're life around (probably not)? Have you seen someone so addicted to this industry and actually quit? ..."
https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showth…
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So anyway, how do I know if I'm a so-called addict in their eyes, I would ask? If I visit multiple times weekly? What if its weekly? Maybe I go to Church weekly, am I an addict? What if I visit the club monthly? Maybe I go to the movies monthly, am I an addict? Are you only an addict if it is deemed a vice?
I've always said, strip clubs are places you can learn much, but beyond that they aren't really a solution to anything.
SJG
Hitler, The Rise
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Some guys so spend more than they can afford. Ironically it's SW dream custies that fit the addiction mold more. Guys who pay to cum and demand good mileage are less addicted than guys trying to buy affection.
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Tim:
Addicts can't stop their behaviors. Customers with compulsive behaviors also have an irresistible urge to go to the club and spend but they are one step (or several steps) below true addicts. Both of those (addicts and ones with compulsive disorders) may still go even though the action negatively affects their lives. IF that describes you, then that is a problem.
Personally, I wouldn't worry too much about what the SW dancers think. Nor would I worry about that the dancers at your clubs (you visit) think. The correct answer is what do *you* think? Do you feel you need a wife or girlfriend? Or are you happy with just paying strippers for now? Do you feel that you are missing out? I might in your case, I'll expand on this somewhat below with an example the SW dancers are not considering.
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The dancers on SW also talk about the SC visits negatively affecting marriages and family lives in those cases. That is something to be sad about that that is somewhere where I find myself agreeing with the dancers the most. These are the cases where customers are spending excessive time, energy, focus, and money at strip clubs -- to the point where those resources are drained from your loved ones and siphoned to the dancers.
One common "exception" where the resources spent is not negative, is an example like a man (or woman) who has grown children who are out on their own, and he has an ex-spouse, the guy is now older, and it at a point in his (or her) life where is he "done" with long term relationships. That guy already had a family and is done with it. He's not missing out on *anything*. And *no one* left is depending on him for support any more. He's just honest with himself and may be perfectly happy spending time, money, energy, and focus on strippers, sex, escorts, etc. An example of this was Yoda who used to post here on TUSCL and on SW (he was a mod over there) before he passed away year or two ago.
The above is not the only example, but it provides one example the ladies on SW are not considering. Otherwise, I do find myself agreeing with many of the dancers in that thread.
A fair number of the dancers in real life *are* actually appreciative of their customers. Don't worry what a few say with regards to customers on the internet.
I made more money in the stock market the last couple weeks than I think I spent in strip clubs all year. I spend more time online than I do in strip clubs. I do use it for work too though.
In fact, over the past few weeks I've been going over my own activities and trying to see what I actually want to get out of this whole thing. I think I'm coming to the conclusion that I'm not an addict, but either frequent more than I would really like to, or spend more than I'd like per visit.
My scenario is that I'm single, no dependents. There was a recent month where I visited every weekend, but I'm settling in now that the novelty and adrenaline are wearing off, on once per month.
I guess I was just intrigued by the discussion because I want to convince myself I'm not addicted :). Mostly for myself, but although society teaches that you shouldn't care what others think, we all do. I do. I can't stand the thought that I might be thought of as that chump that comes in and spends too much money because he's looking for intimacy in the wrong place, or that he can't find it outside the club. It might be likely too, since I'm not interested in taking someone OTC for sex. I feel like the married guys have it easier in that regard; for some reason it just seems so much more pathetic to me to frequent strip clubs as a single guy in your 30's. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy it. I just hate feeling pathetic, and sometimes do in the club.
On one hand I can feel assured since I don't think I fit into the mold they're describing, on the other hand I've felt I know that Candycups girl from experience. You know the type that feeds you all of that sexual energy making u think you got a chance with her because she is telling u how horny she gets dancing for you? Then after the dances she skidaddles out and away from you. I once asked a girl giving me this vibe her # and of course she said she would except she has a boyfriend. Yeah right!
For most women sex is not as important or as big a need - all one has to do is look at the animal kingdom where the males are often trying to have sex whenever they can w/ the females(s) that will allow him; and the male will have sex w/ any female that will let him; whereas the female only wants sex when she wants to have offspring and will be choosy as to the male she will have sex with - it's biological - women can't expect men to feel the way they do - men and women are just not the same in their brain wiring nor their hormones so they can't be expected to act/feel the same way - the argument can be made that if sex is such an enjoyable thing then why make it so hard to get-it and not enjoy it as much as one can if it's such an enjoyable thing - it's just we're wired different brain-wise and hormone-wise.
If men are addicted to strip clubs doesn't that make strippers the God Damn Pusher.
That's pretty low expectations, isn't it? That's 30k per. She could make more than that at most any factory job and she wouldn't even have to get naked.
My old ATF routinely made 3X that per shift
it's just... right now... I don't want to. :)
That dancer used to have a much higher goal in her signature (like 1200+). I get sense that she's a full time student now (possibly with a vanilla side job), so she's working less hours, hence the lower goal. That and I think she's in Canada, too.
The guys I feel bad for are the ones that topple head over heels and actually think the connection was real. Who lose their jobs and come in anyways to drop a portion of their savings while they sit there for hours, under the impression that I'll just stop working in the middle of my work day and hang out with them, because they felt special, and because they gave me $80-$120 that day that they probably didn't actually have available to spend.
If it's just some dingus who's coming into the club already looking for a date, or if it's a kiddo who doesn't "get it" yet, then pffft to them. But when they're guys who've come in semi regularly for years, and suddenly they forget and fall too deep into the fantasy, to the point their real life takes a back seat to them getting their fix of something fake, it's a little sad to see.
Thanks Juice!
That said there's compulsive people out there who have problems with anything. It could be food, exercise, sleep disorders (or enemas).
But when the quality goes down I stop going.
SJG
I think only a dancer can really answer you as I'm don't have access to all the information to give an appropriate reply (as a customer) as to how they think. From my current favorite (CF) in the club, she mentions she likes that I remember it's only entertainment and that I don't visit too often. There was a binge period where I went to the club 3 times within 10 days of each other back in February, and universally all the dancers said, "What are you doing here?" and "why are you back so soon?" I was surprised, but they were all in agreement: "no, a normal guy like you doesn't need to come here so much. Don't be like these guys in here every week. You're not like that. Please don’t' turn into that." Like I said, it surprised me but I feel they were right. I was chasing a short term adrenaline high, too. And those spending levels weren't sustainable either. I'm over it now.
I'm thinking "healthy" (non-addicted) customers should remember strip clubs are just entertainment, don't become needy, don't waste too much of your life (time and $$) ITC, remember the connection is not real and it's not a substitute for real life relationships. It's just entertainment and don't forget to tip.
How often? I think going every month is OK. Personally I like stretching it out to every 2 months if I can. Heck, even going to see favorite 4 times a year isn't bad. The longer you stay away, the more you have to talk about since a lot will have changed in your life. My last 2 visits were 4 months apart. I think that was just fine.
This response was sort of self-reflective for me, too. I admit to wondering what they think, too. For some reason it would bother me a little bit inside to learn the dancers thought I was a chump. Just remember it is only entertainment.
Probably just a bunch of strippers in denial about using us just for our wallets, when they secretly can't admit they're addicted to our money. Bottom feeders...
Link you have posted in this thread. Just additional comments is all on the SW thread. Bless their hearts!