OT: Jim Brown, G.O.A.T.? Yes or No.
Dominic77
Cleveland, Ohio
Stats:
NFL draft: 1957 / Round: 1 / Pick: 6
Career history
Cleveland Browns (1957–1965)
Career highlights and awards
8× Pro Bowl (1957–1961, 1963–1965)
8× First-team All-Pro (1957–1961, 1963–1965)
4× NFL MVP (1957, 1958, 1963, 1965)
8× NFL rushing yards leader (1957–1961, 1963–1965)
5× NFL rushing touchdowns leader (1957–1959, 1963, 1965)
NFL champion (1964)
NFL Rookie of the Year (1957)
NFL 1960s All-Decade Team
NFL 75th Anniversary All-Time Team
Cleveland Browns No. 32 retired
Consensus All-American (1956)
Career NFL statistics
Rushing yards: 12,312
Rushing average: 5.2
Rushing touchdowns: 106
Receptions: 262
Receiving yards: 2,499
Receiving touchdowns: 20
Reference:
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/…
https://web.archive.org/web/200809161115…
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Greatest football player? Maybe. It's between him, Jerry Rice, and Lawrence Taylor IMHO.
Greatest athlete? He's up there with Ali, Jordan, Ruth and Bo Jackson.
But it's really difficult to compare players of different eras. Cam Newton is bigger than most of the offensive lineman of the 60's.
Brown played against defensive players who smoked cigarettes at halftime. He played against players who didn't spend the off season working out. They were so poorly paid most had to work real jobs in the off season. They showed up at camp fat and out of shape.
Brown may be the greatest of all time. It makes fun conversation but you just can't make a fair comparison.
Personally I think when it's all said and done my vote would be Tom Brady despite actively rooting against him. Now this is just football and the way I see it is if I had the first pick to draft any player in history who would I pick.
Yes!
He was also way before my time and I've never seen whole games of him playing. FWIW, in my lifetime (also a Gen X'er), to me the most talented and entertaining to watch was Barry Sanders, the most athletic specimen was Bo Jackson, and the most prolific and successful career was Emmitt Smith. And that's only considering RB's. The all around GOAT, to me, is Montana with Brady right on his heels. Certainly a case can be made for Brady right now. I expect him to take my top spot when his career is done. But for now, childhood nostalgia of heroes reigns supreme.
GOAT RB = Walter Payton.
That accounts for a big part of why he he was in such good condition!
Try Syracuse, not Cornell, LOL
Although, I assume that Syracuse played Cornell once or twice a year. Then I would be correct in saying the he played at Syracuse. That's my story and I'm sticking to it! ;-D
With athletes getting bigger, stronger, and faster all the time I find it hard to believe that he was better than the best of today. He was probably most dominant against his contemporaries, but I can't imagine he was that far ahead of his time.