Timeliness
ididthisonce
North Carolina
Personal observation:
The timeliness of escorts is far better than OTC strippers. 75% of strippers are more than two hours late.
The timeliness of escorts is far better than OTC strippers. 75% of strippers are more than two hours late.
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But one thing is very clear: the migration is nearly 100% from stripper to escort/bodyrub/domme provider, relatively VERY rare to go the other way. IMO, that's because a girl who has the ability to run her own business almost never tolerates what strippers go through.
@TheeOSU - Only three or so late (under an hour but they stayed an extra half hour or more to make up for it. One actually stayed all night) but I have no experience with those from places like Backpage which the flake factor may be higher.
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An escort has 3 appointments after you and had 3 appointments before you, she has a schedule to keep.
A stripper has 1 appointment that day and she'll get to it when she feels like it... or not.
I don't do escorts, as a general rule, but nearly 100% of the time bodyrub girls have been late or had to cancel, I got a timely pro-active text or email as to what was going on, often accompanied with an offer to move to later that day, and/or a slight discount or extra time for my trouble. The behavior difference is night and day.
With escort types - OTC is their business - and if they don't show - they risk losing the customer forever. Strippers might think they can entice an OTC client the next time she sees him at the club.
I think you're absolutely right that there are competing priorities, but I think you're being far too understanding by thinking that it's a competing business priority (i.e., going to the club)... in fact, my usual fallback plan on a failed OTC is to head to the club, since I"m already in the city -- and at least for me, I've never seen my OTC girl there, not once. I think more typical competing priorities are: recovering from alcohol- or drug-fueled previous evening, sleeping in just because, choosing to hang out with her friends instead, choosing to hang out with her boyfriend instead, choosing to hang out with her family instead, just plain forgot and ignoring your texts instead of telling you she needs to cancel, handling some sort of crisis around anxiety or depression, or starting up a new alcohol- and drug-fueled binge with friends. On that last one, years ago there was a stripper I was facebook friends with, and there were at least two occasions where she went radio silent the day before our OTC appointment, but I could follow her on facebook as she posted day & night pictures of her and her bff (bad influence) partying/drinking/smoking non-stop... meanwhile, her friends and family would be posting, "call me, been trying to get in touch", etc. Eventually, after a 2 or 3 day binge, she'd come home again, call to apologize, etc. Good times!
I've been on a solid streak lately -- over the past year and a half or so, every one of my CFs communicates decently, lets me know when they'll be late, lets me know if they can't make it, etc. I keep waiting for the other shoe to drop :) But there definitely ARE mature responsible strippers, you just have to look
Fast-forward: she's more reliable and punctual now.
Dancing doesn't appear to be easy work and what others like Subraman have touched on makes sense, especially the comparisons to escorts, bodyrub girls, and dominatrices. Dancers do put up with a lot of customer shit (or different shit than other sex workers). Some of the personality traits that often make good strippers (HPD, BPD, NPD**) often help entice them to not take accountability for their actions. aka. things the feel good feel really, really good. and things that feel bad feel really, really bad. So they avoid uncomfortable things like personal accountability and taking it on the chin (to borrow a boxing term).
** Histrionic personality disorder, Borderline personality disorder, Narcissistic personality disorder
When you add questionable (enabling) relationships, drug dependencies, and other factors - the chances of a stripper showing up to OTC is much smaller - the chances of the same stripper showing up and being able to perform are even smaller.
Incall Escorts have to be punctual to "turn and burn".
Most of my OTC with dancers are not after they leave the club (nights or days) but during the afternoon before they go to work.
Unfortunately I've run into some real flakes but I've also found a few gems. Just the way I do things, I'm not looking for anybody's approval but I'd rather spend my money on other things.
You know, surprisingly enough I only partially agree. I think you're absolutely right in many cases -- she doesn't respect you, her OTC commitments to you mean nothing to her, etc. On the other hand, one thing I've noticed among the strippers I've gotten to know pretty well ... the flakes are equal-opportunity flakes. I had an ATF who was the queen of late/no-shows/radio-silence. Over the course of time I knew her, she lost her very best friend in the world, because she (my ATF) fucked her (the bff) over one too many times... and, consistent with the way ATF behaved with me, she was a no-call no-show for an event that was important to the BFF, and that was the last straw after years of such treatment for the BFF. ATF was crushed over it, and didn't mean it as a lack of respect. Over the course of time, I came to find out that ATF just treated everyone that way, it's how she handled life and relationships.
I am at the point where I don't care WHY a stripper goes radio silent or no-shows, I just move on. I don't have the patience for this kind of treatment, it's not THAT hard to replace an ATF, and believe it or not, I do have enough dignity and self-respect that I couldn't look at myself in the mirror if I tolerated it, no matter how good the sex was. That said, back when I had the above-mentioned ATF, I was where JS69 is now, rationalizing away unacceptable treatment because of the sex or other reasons, and maybe that's where my head was at, at the time: I needed mind-blowing sex more than I needed to respect myself, coming out of my separation from my ex-wife, and after a few years the needle swung back the other way.
Dancers are pros at extracting money ITC but I agree that OTC the vast majority are flakes. I haven't had any OTC recently for just this reason; it's more hassle than it's worth when there are other options available.
Strippers are notoriously late for an OTC date. Patience is Definately a virtue when dealing with these girls.
One time a couple years ago I was floored that a girl actually showed up on time for a meet up we had planned.
You deal with it any way you like that's up to you I just refuse to spend my money, and I do spend a decent amount, on people that think I owe them something. My feeling is more if you want a bit of help from me you had best please me that's my requirement.
I think the requirements vary by girl and by region, but in most regions, there are ways around giving your real info. Everything from a reference system to p411 can protect your anonymity to some extent or other.
That said, I don't do escorts because I just don't love the experience. I find ITC far superior if I want something quick and spur-of-the-moment, and OTC is far FAR more awesome on every level -- so much more awesome that I think it's well worth tolerating some stripper flakiness for
This, of course, is one of the huge differences. That first time an escort opens the door, the main question is: how much worse than her picture does she look? If you're lucky, she looks as good as her picture or nearly so; if you're unlucky, there's huge differences. And that doesn't take into account her personality either.
I think there's no getting around the fact that you have to have a bit more "a hole is a hole" attitude to enjoy escorts... yes, guys who like escorts would rather have a beautiful charming escort than an unattractive obnoxious one, but they have very little control over what opens the door when they have that very first appointment with an escort, and unless she's a total disaster, they'll usually keep the appointment regardless. In the strip club, you not only know about compatibility and attractiveness before you go in the back, but chances are you've spent some time out in the main room, and she's already driven you pretty horny.
-->"I just don't trust meeting random women in hotels and motels. I done heard of too many bad shit occurring."
This is a little less of a worry, generally, unless you are a backpage bottom-trawler. If you're sticking with mid-range escorts and up, nearly every major market has review sites, and you can go your entire career indulging in well-reviewed escorts and probably have FEWER negative incidents than with strippers, since generally strippers aren't the subject of lots and lots of reviews. I have done a lot of bodyrubs, and other than aesthetic issues, in general there's no comparison between negative incidents with bodyrub girls vs strippers