SS

I've just come to accept it. Actually I know a young stripper who doesn't do SS, it's annoying because when you are wired to preemptively handle SS and there isn't any well then your mind gets a tad bit disappointed.

But it's a part of it. I'm getting my best "game" from strippers.

Some of the SS can be amusing and it can totally make your day. As for some of the SS out there, I think some of the customers want to believe that the teenager or the twenty-something in front of them totally wants to date them despite the 20+ year age difference. Also you can hardly blame the dancers in a binary scenario you are proposing: yes/no, the dancers really use SS to encourage spending. They want to turn nos into yeses to keep custies spending. It's part of the hustle.

I do find the top earner do come across as more "genuine" as opposed to some of the "shit shovelers" out there. I'm not interested in deciding puzzles and codes either. But part of what we're paying for is performance art. And their true genuine selfs might be a tad depressing at times.

Adding: with some of the SS there is a bit IMO of cognitive dissonance from it. I like to avoid that since my brain tells me: "this isn't real."

False flattery, lies about her background and/or who she is, inflated stories about her earnings which are designed to motivate a guy to spend., hints of fun to be had without any explicit promises, etc., are more or less the benign shit that I take for granted. Also, I don't even bother getting into relationships discussions because 90% of the time they will lie about that too since some dudes seem to need the dancer to be single in order to enjoy her services (almost all of them have SOs of some sort).

The only thing that ever irks me is when a girl flat out lie about what she's willing to do, whether ITC or OTC. However, in my experience, the % of girls who will give a direct lie about what they will do is fairly low. It seems that many girls can only take their SS so far before they are no longer comfortable doing it.

I think some guys love it because their home lives are boring. It's not just exclusive to strippers in relationships. I've known of married women to start drama in extra marital relationships just for a rush.

Yes most of us say we hate SS, but if strippers acted like normal everyday women most of us wouldn't get as excited over them.

I found my enjoyment in the club is enhanced by choosing to believe almost anything they say in the club. Outside the club, I believe nothing without supporting evidence. trying to figure out what is real or what coded message they are sending would make me insane.

"Outside the club, I believe nothing without supporting evidence. trying to figure out what is real or what coded message they are sending would make me insane."

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Agree. The SS and incessant hustling becomes intolerable if you are seeing a dancer OTC for anything long-term.

"I found my enjoyment in the club is enhanced by choosing to believe almost anything they say in the club. Outside the club, I believe nothing without supporting evidence. trying to figure out what is real or what coded message they are sending would make me insane."

I like that way of thinking. Inside the club: "oh you're in med school," "oh you make $5,000 a night," "oh this is your first night dancing."

Outside the club" "oh shut up, you're full of shit!"

I don't really give a shit one way or another. If it's SS, she wants me to spend money. If it's not SS, she wants me to spend money.

If it's worth spending money on her, I'll spend money on her. If she's not, I won't.

Actions speak louder than words. Especially in a strip club where it's so hard to hear anyway.

I've come to accept SS as just part of the game. Like tattoos or piercings, I don't like them but if I passed on every dancer that had them, I wouldn't be getting many dances. If they get too extreme, then I gotta pass.

"Outside the club" "oh shut up, you're full of shit!"" I am still laughing at that comment.

Sometimes I view the stripper as playing a character in a sort of interactive play. If she's lying to make my experience better, awesome. If she's giving shit in a way that makes my experience worse it's annoying.

I think SS is a natural occurrence when you decide to step into a strip club. It's almost impossible to avoid - and it can be very difficult to determine if anything said/done isn't SS. I like to believe it's all SS unless something is proven to be a fact - and those occurrences are about as rare as rain in the desert.

shailynn-->"I think some guys love it because their home lives are boring. "

I'm not a fan of SS; I realize it comes with the territory, but the older I get, the less I'll tolerate. I tend to coach the girls a bit about my expectations, and try to pick girls who aren't lying constantly. I have almost zero tolerance these days for anything I feel is designed to get more money out of me, other than better service.

That said, I love hearing about their messy loves. No, I didn't do that justice -- I FUCKING LOVE IT! I don't feel like my home life is "boring", I enjoy it quite a bit... but man, I can't get enough of hearing about the ridiculous drama between their friends, bad decisions leading to whatever weird consequence (they never seem to take responsibility for their bad decisions, and rarely even root-cause the problem back to those decisions), etc. I know many of you have no patience for hearing about this, but I really dig it.

^^^ I agree! Their life stories are highly entertaining to me too. The stupidity and the horrible decisions - lack of responsibility - it's like a real life Jerry Springer show. It would be impossible to dream up things as fucked up as their reality!

All good posts guys, keep 'em coming.I need to to re-think about what is out and out lying vs what is SS.I realize now that I lumped them together and that is clearly a mistake.And I like the clear divide of ITC/OTC.

@Cashman1234,Subraman: That's hilarious. :) And all this time I thought I was the only who enjoyed the schadenfreude. God love 'em,they are a hot mess.

As a lawyer I assume all of you are liars as well and don't care about that either. Once I am done in the club, the dancers no longer exist in my mind, so their stories don't either.

JohnBuford the best way to deal with it is to separate it into 2 categories

Category A) is SS that doesn't cost you anything that I just let go by without any problem

Category B) is if they are trying to hustle you for bucks at that point I don't put up with it and find

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That doesn't mean I don't tip or tip well, but I tip at my pleasure, not by being coerced out of my money with nothing to show for it.

Once one has been a regular SCer for a while one has heard most of the SS lines – as for me I just look at them and smile and it goes in one ear and out the other – I’m not there for what they tell me and I’m there for what they’ll do for/to me.

I don’t mind what they say as long as they do what I want/need – i.e. as long as I get proper ROI pretty-much nothing else matters – I only draw the line when they are trying to play me for a sucker and trying to just ROB me vs just embellishing their “persona”.

Most SS is so familiar that it's like an old friend. It can be irritating at times, but it's how my friend is and I've come to expect it. It's strangely comforting when everything is as it should be.

I have a simple rule: If it enhances the experience I play along, if not I ignore it. Everything is seen as entertainment.

Enjoyed this thread. I love SS.

IME, college girls do this better than Blue Collar girls.

But I like girls from Blue Collar background (athletic hard bodies) - so give them a bit of coaching on SS.