OTC101 Never go to her apartment.

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• Ch3ll

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  8 years ago

  Some of these stories I just wonder if the victim was just too easy going or naive. Aside from getting to k ow the dancer, what have some of you done or said to avoid having to go inside until you felt you could really trust the girl?
• JamesSD

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  8 years ago

  Don't play away games with a dancer you're not very well acquainted with. I imagine a lot of dancers don't necessarily live in the greatest of neighborhoods, and also are in places your typical middle-aged white PL would stick out.
• dudefromsd

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  8 years ago

  I've only met up with one dancer at her place. I'd done ITC with her a bunch of times but never OTC. When I arrived at her place it was obvious she was sleeping on the couch. She said she had just moved in and was taking over the place as soon as her friend moved out which would be in a few days. I asked where her friend was and she says HE is in the one bedroom fucking HIS boyfriend. So I'm there thinking do I fuck this girl in the living room with a couple dudes in the next room going at it? One of both could come out anytime and I'll be there fucking this girl on the dudes couch. I went ahead and fucked her for a while, but I couldn't finish. I kept expecting that door to open and at best a couple dudes would get an eye full of my naked ass going up and down.
• vincemichaels

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  8 years ago

  Once I had misgivings as I accompanied a prostitute to her place. We walked in and the smell of cigarette smoke was in the room. I asked who was there, and was told her roomate had just left. My ears were tingling and I left, I expected to be mugged while having sex. Nothing happened and I drove away. This guy made his mistake and unfortunately paid for it. Let him who is wiithout sin cast the first stone.
• ime

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  8 years ago

  Chang Saulsberry that is an interesting name.
• londonguy

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  8 years ago

  ^^ It's the American version of the English name 'Salisbury' which is also a city in Wiltshire, England. Americans decided to spell it a different way, just like you have always done over there :-)
• shadowcat

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  8 years ago

  Londonguy - Not true. There is a Salisbury North Carolina and also a steak made from ground beef. :)
• K

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  8 years ago

  Unless I know her really well, I never go any where but a hotel I picked out. I meet her in the lobby and verify she is alone. One such date is not enough for me to go anywhere else with her. I'm not even worried about her as much as I am about room mates, ex boyfriends, dealers and stalkers. -DudeFromsd, you are a braver man than I am. I'd have left immediately.
• georgmicrodong

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  8 years ago

  I have gone to dancers' homes to meet them, but as others have said, only after meeting them several times in neutral territory, such as a motel where I've rented a room. Even a motel/hotel when I get the room myself isn't *absolutely* safe. A couple tried to rob me at one such one time. Fortunately, that worked out better for me than for them, but it's still a danger.
• ime

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  8 years ago

  London guy i was more commenting on the combination of Chang and saulsberry
• rockstar666

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  8 years ago

  It's dangerous to go anywhere with a sex worker you just met...here you are, a P/L who probably has a lot of cash on them. Not smart. The first time I went to a dancer's apartment with my ATF and the biggest shock I had was how trashed it was. And I mean TRASHED. The damage to the walls, doors, floors...it was almost like a war zone. But I was never in fear of my safety outside of maybe punching a hole and falling through her floor.
• Cashman1234

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  8 years ago

  Sadly, I think that mistake has been made by many horny clubbers over the years. It's dangerous with an unknown dancer. I've also been there - and I was lucky to get in and out without getting jumped - so I feel badly for this guy. He was lucky though - as it appears they were only gamblers -
• londonguy

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  8 years ago

  @ Shadow and IME. I was just kidding with you. Though that's interesting SC. I have noticed a lot of places down the eastern seaboard named after places in England.
• JohnSmith69

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  8 years ago

  I hang out at strippers apartments all the time. However, the strippers that I hang out with don't want me to know where they live until we have gotten to know each other pretty well over a period of a few months. I would be very suspicious of a dancer that I didn't know well who invited me back to her place. I'd get a hotel, and if she still insisted on her place then it would be over. I also don't want them to know where I live unless they are a DS. I usually carry a handgun wherever I go, but it's still better to avoid places where I might need that gun even though it is available.
• georgmicrodong

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  8 years ago

  @JS69: I've been advised by a local lawyer that carrying a gun while engaging in prostitution is a bad idea. A cop who decides to be a dick might might find an excuse to turn it into a felony charge, just because of the presence of the gun. I carry as well, but since I control the place we're meeting, I tend to make the decision on whether to bring it into the room or leave it in the car until late.
• JohnSmith69

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  8 years ago

  GMD, I'd rather be able to defend myself and then deal with the consequences. In other words, I'd rather be on trial for shooting a stripper boyfriend than be the one shot by that boyfriend.
• rockstar666

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  8 years ago

  JS69: I was a little surprised too at your statement that you always pack heat. As an attorney you know that if you just pull the gun on someone in a public place, you're looking at least at $10k in legal fees and as george m. says, you can easily get a felony charge. I have friends with guns who don't carry them when they go bar hopping etc. because they know it will do more harm than good if something happens, even if someone else is the one who starts an altercation. Are you REALLY a lawyer?
• jackslash

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  8 years ago

  I have a concealed carry permit and I carry a pistol most of the time. But in Michigan you can't carry your gun while intoxicated nor can you carry in a bar. So I don't go strip clubbing with my weapon. In all the years I've been carrying a concealed pistol, I have never had to draw my gun. But I would rather have my pistol and not need it than need it and not have it.
• georgmicrodong

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  8 years ago

  @JS69, I'm in agreement with the whole "I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6" thing, which is why I still at least have it in the car. Just wondered what your perspective on the *legal* ramifications.
• Tiredtraveler

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  8 years ago

  I have only been to a girls place twice. Same girl. She live there with her sister. The second time(the first time we were in the living room as her sister was not home) she showed me back to her bedroom as her living room furniture had been repo'd (rent to own) . She told me she would be right back as she had to take her sister to work. When I went into her bedroom I noticed her "pipe" sitting on the dresser and when she asked me for 'gas' money to take her sister take her sister to work and she would take good care of me upon her return. I said no to the prepayment and they left to go make the buy I figured. I followed out the door as soon as they were out of site. She called later wanting me to come back to party with her and her sister sounding stoned (so much for taking her sister to work). I never saw her again. I figured she may have brought her supplier back with her for me to pay him, paid him with what was between her legs or something like it! I have never gone to a dancers house since.
• JohnSmith69

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  8 years ago

  RS, I didn't say that I always carry a gun. I said that I usually carry a gun. Obviously there are a few places where I don't carry. I teach the portion of concealed carry classes that deal with all legal issues -- where you can and cannot carry, when you can shoot someone, when you can draw a gun without firing, differences in state laws, etc. So I understand the legal issues thoroughly and I'm quite capable of making reasonable judgment calls regarding firearms. And I'm not afraid of legal charges, legal fees, etc to the degree or in the way that everyone else is. I understand the legal system thoroughly, so I don't worry about claims or charges that are baseless just because it might involve legal proceedings or legal fees. I simply avoid legal entanglements with a gun where I would be in the wrong. Among the several places that I don't carry a gun are strip clubs (pretty much the only kind of bar that I go to), and any place where I am smoking weed. I also wouldn't carry a gun if I was drinking but I almost never drink alcohol beyond an occasional single drink. I see nothing wrong with carrying when I visit the home of someone that I don't know well like a stripper.
• Cashman1234

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  8 years ago

  I see that you know what you are doing (JS69). I understand your interactions with girls OTC a bit more too. I'm sure you know what you are doing - and how to handle yourself when you are OTC.
• Ugluck75

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  8 years ago

  Wow, thanks for sharing the story. I visit my ATF OTC gal some but will be wary if I get any other OTC and will stick to a hotel unless we have gotten already done OTC over several visits.