Will women voters go for Trump?

So you're saying Sanders primary voters will move to Trump rather than Hillary in the general election. I really don't see that happening...especially among women..

I made a New Year's resolution not to engage in political arguments during this election year. I realized that I have never changed anyone's mind by arguing, and no one has ever changed mine. Arguments serve only to tell other people what your opinion is and how strongly you hold it. Futile. Futile. Fultile.

Donald Trump keeps tempting me to break my resolution.

Meat, I'm NOT leaving the US if Trump is elected! I only asked for opinions on where a liberal could go and find a government that reflects his values the closest.

Lots of dancers are very conservative which does surprise me as they get as much government money as unemployed people do. I think they like strong men who will insult them, belittle them and attack intellectuals for the same reason many have a 'Daddy complex'. Trump's cult of personality works well on them.

You're crazy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkSRJSUY…

i’m 4 bernie

hillary and trump are one in the same. insatiably greedy, lying, thieving, elitist limousine liberals who covet power over all else. not only do they both hate women but they hate people of color even more. especially hillary and those uppity negros that stabbed her in the back in 2008 when they put that oreo muslim in the white house instead of her. yeah she is frothing at the mouth for the day she gets to mete out some real payback i tell you what. and the donald, fucking democrat puts an (R) behind his name and now he is somebody. well a leopard can’t change his spots.

both trump and hillary are dangerous megalomaniacs who will bomb the fuck out of anyone who looks at them cross eyed. and if they’ll do that to someone in Kansas (not that either of them would ever go to someplace so backward once they were in office) just imagine what they’ll do to a bunch of colored wogs overseas. bush’s and obama’s never ending wars will seem like child’s play.

that brings me to bernie. an outsider we can believe in who voted against the war in Iraq. now it is true he did vote for every other military action during his 16 years in the House and 10 years in the Senate but that’s only 26 years on the public dole so technically he is still an outsider. and he is the best candidate to save us regular folk, especially the women and children, from the old perverted white males that have been ruling us for so long. now i know what you are going to say – but he is an old perverted white male who believes women want to be gang raped crackpot. yes, yes i admit it sounds counter intuitive but who better to save us from our old white perverted male overlords than our own old white perverted male overlord.

the bottom line is that Bernie cares and will lift us up and give us hope. i say don't give up on yourselves! just because society has shunned you and cast you out because of your looks, because of your smells, because of your laziness and because of your permanent dislikability....bernie honestly doesn’t give a FUCK. he LOVES you all exactly because you are the patsies you are. so give him and yourselves a chance. stop doubting and BELIEVE


WE REALLY CAN MAKE THIS HAPPEN IF WE ALL JUST STOP MASTURBATING TO PORN, GET DOWN ON OUR KNEES AND PRAY TOGETHER FOR ONE WHOLE DAY



***don’t do it for me. do it for the women and children

Trump consistently polls poorly vs Hillary.

His favorability among women and moderates is awful. Hillary's is mediocre.

JamesSD is right; Clinton doesn't do as well with women as one might suspect. Luckily for her, Trump shouldn't have a lot of female support so it shouldn't hurt her. She has the black vote wrapped up though; she's been closely involved with black issues for 30+ years and they appreciate her.

"SJG, Rockstar, Nina, and several other anti-Trumpsters are in danger of leaving the USA come the end of the year!"

Why am *I* in danger? I'm not a Mexican or a Muslim... Does Trump now want to kick out all the half-breeds, too? If so I guess I AM "in danger," as you say.

Voluntarily^^^ not by force, because you hate Trump so much.

I for one don't hate Trump. I would say I'm more afraid of him than hate him. I only hate people who have it in for me on a personal basis.

Majority of people are talking out of their ass when the discussion turns to politics, but it's true that women don't lean strongly for Hillary, only because they're smart enough to go against the establishment. It really doesn't matter who gets elected, because it's for public office. The laziest people are in government therefore they rarely get anything done. Buerocracies are way too heavy equating to steering a large cargo ship at sea.

Oh, I didn't know you were a mind reader.

Anyway, anyone with real political knowledge knows that if the general election ends up being Clinton vs Trump (which it is looking like), Clinton will slaughter him in the electoral college. She will probably win by over 100 points. It will not be a close race.

And very few Bernie supporters would have a sudden change of heart and abandonment of values to decide to vote Trump in the general election. Lmao.

Once the sidekicks are out of the race if it is just Trump v Clinton I bet she does just fine with women voters

I still support Alfred E. Neuman for President !! :)

He can't be any worse than Chump or Witch.

No. Based on her win last night in Ohio, and based on other projections by the experts, Hilary will likely beat Trump in the general election.

The numbers seem to show Hilary only really does poorly against women under 29 yo. That isn't enough to sway the election to Trump. It certainly wasn't for Sanders in the primaries (who had support for many younger, under 30 yo voters). I agree with twentyfive.

SJG is preparing for all contingencies. But leaving the country would be one of the last options exercised. And SJG is ready to stand up to Trump and the government when minorities and the poor are targeted.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they…...

The women who might go for Trump are probably the married women, not single women. It was like that when G. W. Bush was running against Al Gore.

Remember with Clinton v G. H. W. Bush it was "gender gap".

But with Gore v G. W. Bush it was "marriage gap".

SJG

"I fear I am writing a requiem for myself"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPlhKP0n…

Ontario Canada, Universal Basic Income!!!!

www.sciencealert.com/a-canadian-province…

I think a basic income guarantee is mandatory. Capitalism is what creates unemployment. And Cecil Williams and the people who run Guild Memorial United Methodist Church in San Francisco have got it right. Poverty is caused by social marginalization.

So a corollary is simply this, everyone wants to do well. They want to win the admiration of family and friends. So if they are not doing well, then there must be some social marginalization or disability at work here. But as the main problem is marginalization, then we should not talk about disability, as usually this just means more marginalization.

And of course it is absurd that people should be accepting psychiatric labels. These are just an extreme form of oppression.

So for there to be justice there has to be this basic income guarantee, or what amounts to cradle to grave welfare.

The typical person on welfare takes far less out of our economy than those employed do. And if the welfare recipient is not driving around much in a car, then they are treading far more lightly on the earth than those who senselessly burn up gas and dump CO2 into the atmosphere to do jobs which produce absolutely nothing which people need to live.

Now welfare takes money out of gov't coffers, but in the US welfare has never been more than 3% of federal expenditure. This is much less than corporate welfare and other expenses directed to the betterment of the middle class in order to maintain political allegiance, or to keeping the poor down. So welfare is a cheaper way to keep our society going than the present state of affairs.

And then as far as federal accounts, it is the federal gov't which controls the printing press, the furnace, and interest rates which multiply the availability of money by the inverse of the interest rate. Suffice to say, federal accounts and the money supply are all under gov't control, hence it is artificial. It is just a matter of who and what are being served by it.

So as those who are not doing well are simply the victims of social injustice, we must redress this social injustice.

1. Stop using psychiatric labels, learning disability labels, or morality labels.

2. Offer people value producing work, not nonsense just to get a paycheck.

3. Provide this cradle to grave welfare system as efficiently as possible, and understand that everyone wants to be a useful and meaningful part of our society.

4. Follow my recommendation and hold parents accountable for exploiting their children, using them to give themselves a adult identity. This amounts to psychological child abuse. So besides criminal prosecution where practical, also prevent disinheritance and offer something like a divorce from one's parents when their is parent v child animosity. Make the parents pay, and pay dearly. Make it so that child exploitation no longer pays.

5. And for those who insist on calling the poor lazy or immoral, know that this is how Capitalism works. It is the family where this starts, with the designation of a child as the blacksheep. Those who denigrate the poor are just doing what their parents did to them. So the poor and marginalized need to start standing up for themselves rather than submitting. They and all of us must start engaging in public advocacy and non-violent civil disobedience.

6. And then since the New Economy and Libertarianism are really just the old Social Darwinism and Eugenics Movement, saying that the poor are not fit to compete, we all need to be prepared to do more than just be non-violent. We don't want to be like Anne Frank's father, hiding in an attic waiting for the Gestapo. We need to be ready to engage in guerrilla warfare, the use of lethal force, and without taking prisoners. Unless we are willing to do this, then we are helping the eugenicists who say that we are not fit to live. Gandhi and Jesus lived in violent revolutionary times. They were only able to accomplish their works because others were maintaining the constant threat of lethal violence on a large scale.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guerrilla_warfare

Thank you there Mr. IME for replicating my post and bumping this thread. But I have to ask, are you intoxicated right now. Often it seems that you are, like on a major bender.

SJG

"I fear that an writing a requiem for myself"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPlhKP0n…

Ontario Canada, Universal Basic Income!!!!

www.sciencealert.com/a-canadian-province…

I think a basic income guarantee is mandatory. Capitalism is what creates unemployment. And Cecil Williams and the people who run Guild Memorial United Methodist Church in San Francisco have got it right. Poverty is caused by social marginalization.

So a corollary is simply this, everyone wants to do well. They want to win the admiration of family and friends. So if they are not doing well, then there must be some social marginalization or disability at work here. But as the main problem is marginalization, then we should not talk about disability, as usually this just means more marginalization.

And of course it is absurd that people should be accepting psychiatric labels. These are just an extreme form of oppression.

So for there to be justice there has to be this basic income guarantee, or what amounts to cradle to grave welfare.

The typical person on welfare takes far less out of our economy than those employed do. And if the welfare recipient is not driving around much in a car, then they are treading far more lightly on the earth than those who senselessly burn up gas and dump CO2 into the atmosphere to do jobs which produce absolutely nothing which people need to live.

Now welfare takes money out of gov't coffers, but in the US welfare has never been more than 3% of federal expenditure. This is much less than corporate welfare and other expenses directed to the betterment of the middle class in order to maintain political allegiance, or to keeping the poor down. So welfare is a cheaper way to keep our society going than the present state of affairs.

And then as far as federal accounts, it is the federal gov't which controls the printing press, the furnace, and interest rates which multiply the availability of money by the inverse of the interest rate. Suffice to say, federal accounts and the money supply are all under gov't control, hence it is artificial. It is just a matter of who and what are being served by it.

So as those who are not doing well are simply the victims of social injustice, we must redress this social injustice.

1. Stop using psychiatric labels, learning disability labels, or morality labels.

2. Offer people value producing work, not nonsense just to get a paycheck.

3. Provide this cradle to grave welfare system as efficiently as possible, and understand that everyone wants to be a useful and meaningful part of our society.

4. Follow my recommendation and hold parents accountable for exploiting their children, using them to give themselves a adult identity. This amounts to psychological child abuse. So besides criminal prosecution where practical, also prevent disinheritance and offer something like a divorce from one's parents when their is parent v child animosity. Make the parents pay, and pay dearly. Make it so that child exploitation no longer pays.

5. And for those who insist on calling the poor lazy or immoral, know that this is how Capitalism works. It is the family where this starts, with the designation of a child as the blacksheep. Those who denigrate the poor are just doing what their parents did to them. So the poor and marginalized need to start standing up for themselves rather than submitting. They and all of us must start engaging in public advocacy and non-violent civil disobedience.

6. And then since the New Economy and Libertarianism are really just the old Social Darwinism and Eugenics Movement, saying that the poor are not fit to compete, we all need to be prepared to do more than just be non-violent. We don't want to be like Anne Frank's father, hiding in an attic waiting for the Gestapo. We need to be ready to engage in guerrilla warfare, the use of lethal force, and without taking prisoners. Unless we are willing to do this, then we are helping the eugenicists who say that we are not fit to live. Gandhi and Jesus lived in violent revolutionary times. They were only able to accomplish their works because others were maintaining the constant threat of lethal violence on a large scale.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guerrilla_warfare

Mr. IME, replicating my post twice on the same thread? Wow, you must really like it!

SJG

Beethoven's 9th
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3217H8J…

Women won't vote for Trump because he has proven himself to be a misogynist jerk. Not that I like Hillary either but women will vote for her because for all her faults (and there are many)she isn't a misogynist. Clinton in the end will get women and minorities because of Trump's views. He's a very evil and mean person and people see right through him.

I have a T-shirt with a picture of Curly of the Three Stooges (for all you young'uns who don't know who they were, Google them). It says, "2008, Curly, the Stooge Party Candidate"

Sad thing is, if he was actually running this year, I'd vote for him as the best Candidate... and he's been dead for a long time.

It doesn't matter which person gets elected, but in soap opera fashion there is so much material to bag on Hilary. In her brief law practice she once defended a rapist stating the victim liked the attention from older men. Since this story recently crept up I looked into it more, and was actually surprised to find out she was a practicing attorney briefly. Turns out Hilary was a misogynist according to the victim. The man was acquitted.

She can have that job as President. Anyone in their right mind wouldn't do it. But I guarantee she will make voting for her almost as ridiculous as voting for Obama, then we can blame everything on Hilary. "Thanks Hilary!"

The OP's statement apparently is getting closer to realization everyday. We shall see come November, but the general election Clinton will concede, and her only chance will be the electoral vote. Women do not favor Hillary by much at all, the exit polls are conceding.

I'm trying my best these days to not be such a political animal.

But like em or hate em, Trump is the ultimate bullshit artist, the kind of prick who will take any and all positions to advance his own agenda. The latest thing is blaming Hillary for Bill's infidelity:

http://www.people.com/article/donald-tru…

As avid TUSCL'ers (and speaking as a dude who regularly cheats on his wife) we all know that men with power and/or money have absolutely no self-control over their genitals and their animal instincts. Men are dogs. Hillary was a victim, not an enabler. If I were a women, the attack on Hillary for for Bill's infidelity would be the ultimately slap in the face.

No Meat72,Trump will not get the vote from women -- not even close. LOL!

to all the naysayers, when this whole thing started, no one said trump was viable. fast forward to today.

REUTERS ROLLING: HILLARY 41.3%, TRUMP 40.0%...

Wow! Doing a little research on TUSCL and came across this thread. It looks like there were a lot of naive people on this board saying Women weren't going to vote for Trump, and that Clinton would win the electoral college by a land slide!

Never believe those who live sheltered lives inside an urban population. I've always said some of the most ignorant people are those righteous leaning liberals who think they are so in tune with human rights. Once you get out of that bubble of thinking you realize that the biggest human right is getting up and working hard every day, which most of middle America and hard working women can relate to, especially when you're running a household. The women who voted for Trump probably know how hard it is to manage successfully, and if you have a family you'll always be criticized. Looks like the Clinton supporters failed to realize the "Me first" attitude doesn't work for the whole population.

Meat72, congratulation on your call! More women voted for Republican than in previous elections, because they understand the importance of leadership. Clinto didn't have the leadership that women wanted to see.

Yeah that was the word: the female vote would stop Trump. Obviously didn't happened. I bet alot of them said publicly "I would never vote for such a man!" and then did vote for him.

Others were saying it was the Hispanic vote that would stop him.

Hey JimmyG!! Thanks for the congrats. I'm honored for your recognition, and I can bet your wife voted for him since she helps raise the family of 5 kids and write your comedy shows. That has to be a lot of juggling with no time to ask for handouts from the Dumocrats?

Can I still fuck your wife like you offered a few weeks ago?? Just kidding...

I check reviews here every great once in awhile. when I did tonight and i thought about this topic. i posted above

to all the naysayers, when this whole thing started, no one said trump was viable. fast forward to today.

REUTERS ROLLING: HILLARY 41.3%, TRUMP 40.0%...

myself and my gf voted for him, so naysayers, a big middle finger to you!

Nina- "Oh I didn't know you were a mind reader?"

Turns out I am. Glad to have the silence back, and the noise from crying has subsided.

The liberal left only knows how to insult everyone who doesn't agree with them it appears. How many times have you read anyone who voted for Trump is stupid, ignorant, has a low IQ, etc. Earlier the word deplorables was used. I'm kind of glad she spoke her mind so enough people could get a better glimpse of h. er. That was unusual of her to tell the truth for once in my opinion. If a liberal sees this, I might get insulted but we've all been insulted countless times already by the liberal left.

I'm glad Trump won. I had my doubts and still do about him but I think he will be a far better president than Hillary would have been. I'm not completely surprised the polls are wrong. If you only poll the poorest people without caller id, I believe you are bias in your counts toward democrats. I never answer the phone anymore like countless other Americans because the do not call list doesn't work anymore and all I mostly get are scam calls and people breaking the law. Our government has abandoned us as far as enforcing a do not call list in my opinion. I've filed complaints against dozens of callers. I still get these stupid calls every week. I can only block 30 numbers on my current phone and the numbers called from keep changing every week. I didn't want t get my hopes up too much though.