What would you do?

I'm confused about what happened when you went to her place after the club closed. What exactly happened? Did you guys hang out?

She played you, it happens to all of us. I would just forget about her.

Lopaw - We didn't go inside together. I pulled up and she got out the passenger side of my car, saying something to the effect of 'Okay, thanks. See you next time.'

Are there other things you can enjoy in the area near the strip club or where your hotel was? If so, and driving there isn't like 2 or more hours I'd say go a couple of more times and see what's up. IMO it serves some value that she allowed you to take her to her hotel if this was knly you guys 2nd time in thr club.

I see. You'd be awful forgiving to let that go. She had to know damn well what you were expecting. I dunno......maybe give her one more shot to redeem herself (with YOU making all the rules) and see what happens.

Just like she has lots of options with other guys you also have lots of options with other strippers. If a dancer plays me in a disrespectful way, she will never get anything from me again. Move on.

Don't waste your time or money. And next time clarify if you will hang out before you drive anyone back.

She took advantage of your generosity but I'm not sure she really ripped you off (unless she shorted you on time and I blame you as much as her for that).

If I waited an hour to give a relative stranger a ride home then I'd expect some consideration of some kind, even if it was just heartfelt thanks and the promise of a free dance. Since you didn't get that, I'd say fuck it.

I enjoy this website because many of the things written on this site have happened to me as well. I am afraid you were promised some OTC to get you to spend money in the club. Being played by a stripper has happened to a lot of us. It goes with the territory. Remember that these women are not the most honest creatures by there chosen field of work. I say see her again and ask for some time back from the last VIP and see what happens. When a girl plays me, it upsets me and I feel like confronting her. But, most of the time I move on and find a girl who better fits what I am looking for. I rarely return if a girl overcharges me on dances. I recommend keep enjoying yourself at the clubs and keep an open mind for other girls. I learned the hard way not to get laser focused on one dancer. Test the waters and you'll soon forget about the traveling liar.

She played you. Move on.

Given that she ranked an 11/10 on your scale, I say give it another shot.

Don't think I would ask for any sort of "credits" from last time. My approach would be to see her in the club again, but not do VIP. Explicitly state that you would love to spend some time with her OTC where you could do more with her, and give her something for her time. She says yes, great! She says no, you at least tied, and aren't out any more money.

Then again, what do I know. I'm still working on my first OTC experience....hahaha. Guess I would just try keeping it straight and real with her, and see where it goes.

Meant I would only give her more money for her OTC time and fun.

I am trying to see this from her side as well as yours. You said she seemed open to the idea but not whether she actually agreed either by saying so or by implication. If it's yes to either which is how I read it then she played you. Blank her if you cross paths again.

If she's good entertainment for you - give her some rope. If she's easily replaceable - cut her loose. Knowing what you know today, you can manage your interaction with her better next time.

You should have been much more explicit about the OTC opportunity. You were passive about it, and she seized the opportunity to take advantage of the ambiguity of the discussions. Most strippers will do this if you let them. You're listening to the little head, she's listening to the big head, and the two are on totally different wave lengths. So when you get to the pivotal moment, she says bye.

I'd see her again. I'd be careful about monitoring the VIP time, as you always should especially when you suspect but can't prove a past rip off. And I'd have a very clear and unambiguous OTC discussion. Anything could happen. She could rip you off and you'll be done with her. She could just end up being a good ITC provider. You could get extras. Or you could end up in bed with her.

There is no way to know what will happen given your limited interaction with her so far. Your one visit wasn't enough to judge.

Alternatively, if she's a blond or redhead with natural tits, you could put me in touch with her and I'll give you my professional opinion after spending an evening with her. Your call.

You got played by a stripper. I'm glad that's never happened to me. :)

If you want to see her in the club, go ahead. But she doesn't want to fuck you OTC.

Sadly, it seems you got played. Nothing wrong with that - as its happened to many of us. If you decide to go back - it's imperative that you follow what JS69 said. Currently she has the upper hand - and she knows it. She shorted you on VIP - she made you sit in you car and wait - and she got a free ride to her hotel. All of that time and effort was uncompensated - so don't let her play you next time. Take control early - and if she doesn't say yes - then move on. Remember - she needs to agree upfront - as she has already showed that she will exploit any opportunity to play you.

I would dump her, but jot this down as a learning opportunity with regards to just asking for what you want.

I'm amazed at how many guys take the vague / passive route when it comes to OTC and ITC action. I've been turned down for OTC/ITC quite a bit, but I can count on one hand the number of times where I've had to deal with an angry / offended dancer (and still have enough fingers left over to flip someone off... in London). And I capably survived those few times a dancer got pissed because I asked for sex.

Dancers blatantly market their sexuallity. And we can blatantly (but politely...) ask for it. They can say 'no'.

I suggest sending her a very candid text asking for OTC when she returns. Be very clear, but tactful, regarding date, time, cash, and location. If she comes back with a vague non-response, that is your answer.

She played you for both the second VIP and the ride home. But you made it easy for her by relying upon innuendo rather than directly asking her about what she would need for some fun OTC. In my experience, most girls won't flat out lie if you put them on the spot, but plenty are willing to play along with guys who are operating under faulty assumptions. It probably didn't help that you were so eager to please and fattened her wallet up so much ITC with multiple VIPs either.

We live and we learn. We've all been there, so don't take my post as taunting, but rather just direct. But I wouldn't bother with her again, not only because of what she did, but also because she probably has you in the dupe category in her head. If you go back to her after what she did, it will only confirm that belief and lead her to try to get over on you again. In my humble opinion you are better off starting fresh with the next contestant.

If you like it that much - be more direct next time - i would say it's the burn me once aspect. My 2nd fav shorted me on dance counts the first time - but now i just keep better track and actually with vip - it's a fixed price anyways. Now if she'd be more consistent on schedule. LOL It may take some time - but there are PLENTY other fish and i wouldn't have a single problem going back to that club and grabbing someone else right in front of this chick. Gotta remember - it's their business mode - and that's half the trick to turn to your favor. Key is know what you can spend and enjoy it.