What would you do?
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I felt somewhat ripped off by a favorite dancer last time I saw her and am trying to decide whether to see her again and spend money on her. What would you do in this situation? How much do you let your favorite get away with?
Here's the full story:
About six months ago, I met a 11/10 dancer. She had a sweet personality and was red hot in the VIP room. She actually lives in a state far away and has a normal job there, but comes to this other state to do her dirty work. I don't actually live in that state either. I got her phone number and last month she let me know she was coming back.
So I went and saw her on Super Bowl Sunday, when the club was pretty slow. We did one VIP room and she was more business like. It wasn't red hot like last time, but still fun. Part of the reason was that I was feeling so tired. We hung out on one of the couches by the stage for a while, and I started to feel better and more high energy after a few drinks. I didn't mind spending big on her, and I really wanted a fun weekend. She asked if I wanted to do VIP again and I told her that I was staying in a hotel room in a nearby city and that she should come see me there. She seemed open to the idea, but didn't like how far away it was. She said that she was staying somewhere a lot closer. Well, the club was closing in about an hour, and she suggested doing the VIP again and then having me take her back to where she was staying.
Now, the VIP time is bought in blocks of 30 minutes. I actually didn't look at the time when we went in, but I'm fairly sure she cut the time short. Usually the bouncer comes over and lets you know the time is up, but this time, my dancer said we were out of time. I believe the reason she did this was because she wouldn't be able to do any other VIPs if the club was closing within 30 minutes, so she shorted me.
Well, that was okay by me because of what was going to happen when we left. The club closes and I wait in the car for a while for her to change clothes, get her stuff, finish up and come out (all in all, I was probably waiting for an hour from when our VIP ended to when she came out). I followed her directions to where she was staying and...She says "Okay, thanks. It shouldn't be hard to find your way back, see you next time!"
I felt like a chump after spending big money on her, waiting for an hour, driving her back and then getting nothing. I deleted her number from my contact list and put her number in the spam folder. Once in a while I look at the spam messages though, and I saw that she sent message on Sunday saying she is back at the club and hopes to see me again.
Now I am feeling more soft and thinking of going. While I felt tricked, she never said that we were going to fuck. Likewise, I don't actually know if she shorted me on time, it just felt like it. It is easy to find good looking strippers, but finding extremely hot ones who exactly fit your taste is much harder. I really don't care about money and just want to have fun.
So what would you do?
Here's the full story:
About six months ago, I met a 11/10 dancer. She had a sweet personality and was red hot in the VIP room. She actually lives in a state far away and has a normal job there, but comes to this other state to do her dirty work. I don't actually live in that state either. I got her phone number and last month she let me know she was coming back.
So I went and saw her on Super Bowl Sunday, when the club was pretty slow. We did one VIP room and she was more business like. It wasn't red hot like last time, but still fun. Part of the reason was that I was feeling so tired. We hung out on one of the couches by the stage for a while, and I started to feel better and more high energy after a few drinks. I didn't mind spending big on her, and I really wanted a fun weekend. She asked if I wanted to do VIP again and I told her that I was staying in a hotel room in a nearby city and that she should come see me there. She seemed open to the idea, but didn't like how far away it was. She said that she was staying somewhere a lot closer. Well, the club was closing in about an hour, and she suggested doing the VIP again and then having me take her back to where she was staying.
Now, the VIP time is bought in blocks of 30 minutes. I actually didn't look at the time when we went in, but I'm fairly sure she cut the time short. Usually the bouncer comes over and lets you know the time is up, but this time, my dancer said we were out of time. I believe the reason she did this was because she wouldn't be able to do any other VIPs if the club was closing within 30 minutes, so she shorted me.
Well, that was okay by me because of what was going to happen when we left. The club closes and I wait in the car for a while for her to change clothes, get her stuff, finish up and come out (all in all, I was probably waiting for an hour from when our VIP ended to when she came out). I followed her directions to where she was staying and...She says "Okay, thanks. It shouldn't be hard to find your way back, see you next time!"
I felt like a chump after spending big money on her, waiting for an hour, driving her back and then getting nothing. I deleted her number from my contact list and put her number in the spam folder. Once in a while I look at the spam messages though, and I saw that she sent message on Sunday saying she is back at the club and hopes to see me again.
Now I am feeling more soft and thinking of going. While I felt tricked, she never said that we were going to fuck. Likewise, I don't actually know if she shorted me on time, it just felt like it. It is easy to find good looking strippers, but finding extremely hot ones who exactly fit your taste is much harder. I really don't care about money and just want to have fun.
So what would you do?
21 comments
What exactly happened? Did you guys hang out?
You'd be awful forgiving to let that go. She had to know damn well what you were expecting.
I dunno......maybe give her one more shot to redeem herself (with YOU making all the rules) and see what happens.
If I waited an hour to give a relative stranger a ride home then I'd expect some consideration of some kind, even if it was just heartfelt thanks and the promise of a free dance. Since you didn't get that, I'd say fuck it.
I am afraid you were promised some OTC to get you to spend money in the club.
Being played by a stripper has happened to a lot of us. It goes with the territory.
Remember that these women are not the most honest creatures by there chosen field of work.
I say see her again and ask for some time back from the last VIP and see what happens.
When a girl plays me, it upsets me and I feel like confronting her. But, most of the time I move on and
find a girl who better fits what I am looking for. I rarely return if a girl overcharges me on dances.
I recommend keep enjoying yourself at the clubs and keep an open mind for other girls.
I learned the hard way not to get laser focused on one dancer. Test the waters and you'll soon forget about
the traveling liar.
Don't think I would ask for any sort of "credits" from last time. My approach would be to see her in the club again, but not do VIP. Explicitly state that you would love to spend some time with her OTC where you could do more with her, and give her something for her time. She says yes, great! She says no, you at least tied, and aren't out any more money.
Then again, what do I know. I'm still working on my first OTC experience....hahaha. Guess I would just try keeping it straight and real with her, and see where it goes.
I'd see her again. I'd be careful about monitoring the VIP time, as you always should especially when you suspect but can't prove a past rip off. And I'd have a very clear and unambiguous OTC discussion. Anything could happen. She could rip you off and you'll be done with her. She could just end up being a good ITC provider. You could get extras. Or you could end up in bed with her.
There is no way to know what will happen given your limited interaction with her so far. Your one visit wasn't enough to judge.
Alternatively, if she's a blond or redhead with natural tits, you could put me in touch with her and I'll give you my professional opinion after spending an evening with her. Your call.
If you want to see her in the club, go ahead. But she doesn't want to fuck you OTC.
I'm amazed at how many guys take the vague / passive route when it comes to OTC and ITC action. I've been turned down for OTC/ITC quite a bit, but I can count on one hand the number of times where I've had to deal with an angry / offended dancer (and still have enough fingers left over to flip someone off... in London). And I capably survived those few times a dancer got pissed because I asked for sex.
Dancers blatantly market their sexuallity. And we can blatantly (but politely...) ask for it. They can say 'no'.
We live and we learn. We've all been there, so don't take my post as taunting, but rather just direct. But I wouldn't bother with her again, not only because of what she did, but also because she probably has you in the dupe category in her head. If you go back to her after what she did, it will only confirm that belief and lead her to try to get over on you again. In my humble opinion you are better off starting fresh with the next contestant.