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JohnSmith69
layin low but staying high
Now's your turn to tell John Smith that he's either a genius or an idiot. Or both.

This on line dating thing is fucking insane. I've flirted with a blond woman on the phone tonight. We talked for almost an hour. I was jerking off during part of the call and looking at her pictures. She texted me back and sounds like she's in love. I've messaged with a half dozen other women. Four MILFS have tagged me as favorites just this evening. 10 of them winked at me on line just today. I have over 50 incoming messages, only half of which I have responded to. I have three dates. I might be having dinner with a MILF and then meeting a stripper at a nearby hotel on the same night. I have several ongoing message exchanges with women, and a draft message that I need to finish. And I have put absolutely no effort into making these contacts other than writing a short profile and posting a few pictures.

On line they say its hard to get women to communicate with you on dating sites, but its not. You just have to be a great guy. It's like pursuing a dream stripper except you don't pay all of that cash upfront and the girl is not as young or as hot. There are dozens of women that I've seen pics of on line that I'd like to pursue but I'm too busy fending off the ones that are already wet for me. And many of these women are youngish (early 40s), and kind of hot. Not DS hot obviously, not $750 VIP hot, but very very fuckable hot. And they are moderately aggressive -- making very subtle sexual references, flirting with me, taking the initiative, posting pictures that show cleavage. I will be fucking some of these women. I really didn't anticipate anything like this level of success. It's like a flood of women.

And of course remember that on top of all of this on line stuff I've got what's really important: two dream strippers, one of whom is being a bitch tonight, a porn video to film and produce, a free fuck buddy that I haven't seen in weeks, and a gorgeous redhead who sucks like a vacuum cleaner available whenever I want her.

Honestly, do you guys think that SJG is right? Have I gone off the deep end here? Can I really manage all of these women? And if I can't, who do I give up? I want them all.

I'm running out of days to book them. I talk to one woman and get confused, thinking that I'm talking to another one. But frankly I love all of the attention that the fuckable MILFS are giving me. What should I do? I'll listen to any reasonable, respectful advice.

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Corvus
9 years ago
Live life to the fullest John. Punch as many of them as you want and ask the last one to at least call 911 for you when you pass out from an overdose of trim.
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JohnSmith69
9 years ago
Thank you Corvus. I'm going to write that down in my high journal.
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JohnSmith69
9 years ago
I just realized this. SJG is going to take all night typing a response to this. I'm sorry.
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rh48hr
9 years ago
I'm with corvus, enjoy it. I never had that kind of success online. You'll have to post your "system". Lol

Which website are you on?
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JamesSD
9 years ago
Have fun and enjoy. You're making up for lost time. And proving just how shallow women can be about money. Trust me, if you were a blue collar guy with everything else the same, you wouldn't be getting this amount of attention.

Eventually you'll narrow your focus. You'll also be reminded of the occasional hassles of civvys. There will be a few women who will think because they sucked your dick you're on the path to a long term commitment.

Have fun but try to be ethical. Don't intentionally lead women on. Better to find one or two civvys who are DTF casually than deal with the drama of women who obviously want to fall in love.
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shailynn
9 years ago
I can't give you advice on dating MILFs on a level playing field but I can give you advice on talking to women on internet sights in general.

I have met several women on several sites over the years, flying across the country to meet them. All but one ended after one weekend. The furthest I went was all the way out to San Francisco (and I'm an east coast guy). I actually met 4 women on Ashley Madison in it's heyday.

My best advice is be careful about women on those sites. Many of them will contact a million guys, and become addicted to communicating to the guys on those sites, without ever having real intentions of actually meeting someone. It's not too hard to find these people out. If you hit it off with someone well (online/on the phone) and then you check her profile and notice she's constantly on the site, then she's one of those "flirt" types.

Most of the women on those sites are in desperate need of attention. It doesn't take much. I can't tell you how many times I was told these women just wanted a guy who could take them out somewhere nice for dinner.

Now here's where my experience will differ from yours. I met a ton of married women on those sites that weren't supposed to be married. Of course people expect women to be married on sites like Ashley Madison, but other sites, the people are 'supposed' to be single. You could figure out these women too, because they would say "you can only call certain times of the day" or when you planned to meet, you had to plan it a month in advance. I'll never forget one woman kept calling her "ex-husband" every hour checking on her kids. She said "he usually doesn't watch the kids." Yeah bullshit, what ex-husband doesn't have some sort of custody rights where he would regularly watch the kids on the weekends? That's okay, she didn't know I was married either.

Lastly, if you're having trouble making time for all these women, why don't you set up short dates? Like a meeting at a Starbucks - tell them "you're a busy guy, but you're excited to meet them, so how about we meet over some coffee to see if we're compatible?" Of course you're going to have to find a better word than "compatible" but you can make it work.
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JohnSmith69
9 years ago
James thank you. That is very good advice.
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JohnSmith69
9 years ago
rh, I'm on Match. And I actually have a draft post describing my system for fucking dream strippers. I do pretty much the same thing on match the t I do with a DS except not with money up front and the sexual discussion is implied and not express.
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JohnSmith69
9 years ago
I know my job and money helps make these women want me. But I really do think that treating them respectfully and in a subtle but seductive manner is critically important. Most guys in on line dating let their PLness shine much too brightly.
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shailynn
9 years ago
"PLness shine much too brightly."

Yep, when are motherfuckers gonna realize bitches don't want dick picks
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JohnSmith69
9 years ago
Shail, thanks for those very practical suggestions. I'm always very suspicious about what strippers say but I think I may be much too trusting of these civilians. I hope not. Some of them put on a hell of an act if they're some sort of psycho.
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rh48hr
9 years ago
JS - all women are crazy but just at different levels. The crazy doesn't always show straight away. But eventually it will :-)
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shadowcat
9 years ago
I hope you keep very busy. I don't want you coming into Follies and spoiling the girls with your BIG bucks. :)
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TheeOSU
9 years ago
John, my only thought is that you might find that many of those MILFs are as flakey, full of lies, and devious as any of the strippers you've met. After all they're women and in the end they're usually all after the same things, just in different degrees. My advice is don't believe or trust them until they prove they deserve your belief and trust.
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gawker
9 years ago
An on slot of pussy of biblical proportions. Times have changed and many women now advocate for their share of the pleasure.
I was blown away last night when a 23 year old took my hand and masrurbated using my digits.
Today, she said, "Can I please blow you?"
Has the North Pole shifted? Was there a major solar flare? Has Area 51 let them loose? Has Cotton Mather reconvened court?
In my 50+ years of fucking these were two new experiences for me.
So, no. You're not batshit crazy. You're reaping the bounty. Enjoy.
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JamesSD
9 years ago
The main act civvy girls put on is pretending to be more into sex than they actually are. Well, they try to hide the crazy at first too, I suppose.

My understanding is most 35+ milfs don't waste time and play games around sex. If she wants the D, she wants the D.
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ButterMan
9 years ago
I can't give you any advice John because I have had a complete different experience with online dating. It was a complete waste of time for me, of course I was basicly targeting women in there 20's which may have had something to do with it. I guess it works for some folks but I have no desire to dip in that pool again.
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JohnSmith69
9 years ago
You guys are being nice in answering my questions. I thought you might just call me an idiot. .

I feel all warm inside.

But that might just be the hot tub.
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JohnSmith69
9 years ago
DS I won't answer my texts. I might just drop the bitch to make room for MILFs.
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TheeOSU
9 years ago
Yup, it's the hot tub.
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JamesSD
9 years ago
From what I've gathered with DS I, she'll come back to you the next time she needs money.
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Corvus
9 years ago
Ok John, you're an idiot. Feel better now?
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JohnSmith69
9 years ago
Yeah Janes I know that. But I choose to love her anyway.

Corvus, not really. Your first answer was much better than I expected or deserved.
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Corvus
9 years ago
Just keep on plugging away. Both literally and figuratively.
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just_the_nuts
9 years ago
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crazyjoe
9 years ago
^^^ shit talk
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clubdude
9 years ago
Seven days in a week, with a lunch date on the weekends. Keep it at nine!
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jackslash
9 years ago
"you don't pay all of that cash upfront and the girl is not as young or as hot."

This would not work for me. The girls have to be hot and relatively young (I prefer late 20's or early 30's), and I don't mind paying cash upfront. What I don't want to do is waste my remaining (few) years dating ordinary-looking women when I can fuck hot strippers every day.
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JohnSmith69
9 years ago
But Jack, why not do both? It's not really a choice between one or the other. I admit that my thinking on the subject has changed though.
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twentyfive
9 years ago
Just enjoy it while it lasts
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flagooner
9 years ago
You are out of my league. I've never been in any situation that closely resembles this, so unfortunately I must admit that I am unable to provide any valid advice.

All I can do is say "WELL DONE"
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twentyfive
9 years ago
Just a quick question how do you find time to write all of this, tend to your legal practice, and meet up with all of these women?
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JohnSmith69
9 years ago
25, I'm not doing very good at my job for the past few months. And I use my smartphone so I can post, on line flirt etc anywhere. I'm typing this while taking a shit. I know, too much info, but you asked.
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bvino
9 years ago
Obviously you are obsessive. This is a helpful neurosis as it got you through law school (maybe). As far the Online experience I went through the same thing without the extra stripper action on the side. I found most of the "flirty,semi hotties" were desperate women who were pandering themselves for security and money. I got laid a lot but nothing came of any of the encounters as the sex paled off quickly as they became secure in the relationship. It was fun . Be careful and be safe and have fun but do not get your hopes up for more than a casual romp.
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twentyfive
9 years ago
that's funny John TMI
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shadowcat
9 years ago
I'm guessing that jackslash is like myself. We are older than you and don't have as much sexual stamina. It now takes me all day to do what I used to do all day. Once every 3 days is pushing it for me and I'm not going to waste that on an ordinary civie.
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JohnSmith69
9 years ago
bvino, while I would embrace a 40ish version of a DS if such a thing existed, a casual romp is all I really want. And I won't be at all surprised if the sex, when I get it, tapers off quickly. Fortunately though there seems to be a steady supply of replacement women.
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bvino
9 years ago
casual romps in the civilian world often come with more drama than is desired. These are crazy women and can be fun but use an alias.
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larryfisherman
9 years ago
Sweet!
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twentyfive
9 years ago
To bvino nothing in this world comes with more drama than stripper girlfriends
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Dominic77
9 years ago
You think you have a problem now? Eventually some of these MILFs will want the two of you to become exclusive. That was the problem(s) I ran into with them. But with a steady supply of new replacements, I guess that isn't a problem.

Take as many as you can while you can. Some of these MILFs are in some real dry spells (like MONTHS without sex), that is why many are so eager. You can sort of tell because initially some of the pussy is not so loose, then it loosens up by, say, date #3 or 4. That was my experience.
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san_jose_guy
9 years ago
JS69, if online dating drives you insane, imagine what it does to the women.

F2F first meetings. All the problems evaporate, as each of you can see right off if you are attracted to each other.

SJG
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sharkhunter
9 years ago
I'm not offering any advise because I have no online interaction on dating web sites.

Did you have to pay to join match.com?
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san_jose_guy
9 years ago
Find places to hit on them face to face. Forget online.

SJG
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JohnSmith69
9 years ago
Shark, you have to pay to meaningfully participate on Match. The prices are something like $25 for 3 months. There are a bunch of add ons that seemed worthless to me. I thought the price was very reasonable and its a very well organized system. You can lurk in a very limited way for free but the free part is basically worthless.

SJG, wrong again. You're batting 0 lately. In just a few days, I had set up face to face dates with two of them. Another day and I got a third, and I've about got a date with a fourth. And In don't think I've been on the site more than a week. These are all face to fucking face meetings within a matter of days.

Sorry gotta go now and smoke some more of that evil evil mary jane .......

It's making me do crazy things .... like not come to terms with the failure of my marriage . . . .

I'm a sex crazed zombie when I get high on weed.
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san_jose_guy
9 years ago
Hit on them f2f and you can do about that well, in terms of raw numbers.

But since the initial meeting was f2f, the stress level on both sides will be lower.

With your online women, the results of these dates might not be that good. But with ones met face to face the percentage of dates which will be just mind blowing overnighters will be near 100%.

SJG
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JamesSD
9 years ago
SJG, stop repeating yourself. You're wrong, and we all know it. Just give up.
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JohnSmith69
9 years ago
Is that 100% success rate with or without a pre sex gravy bowl?
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san_jose_guy
9 years ago
"You're wrong"

Wrong? What do you mean? Are you being sarcastic?

Women really give it up when they can see that a guy is going for them f2f.

"gravy bowl" ?

That idea came from you or one of our other trolls.

SJG
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twentyfive
9 years ago
Ur rong !
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san_jose_guy
9 years ago
"Ur rong !"

???

F2F first meetings, letting the girl see that you are attracted to her and willing to extend yourself and not afraid of rejection.

Works with civvies. Works in Strip Clubs and AMPs too.

SJG
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chessmaster
9 years ago
I stopped reading at "jerking while on the phone".
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