"I'll find you later" ... horrific insult...
Subraman
Car key and wallet dating your sister
... according to StripperWeb: https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showth…
Some choice quotes from the author, and the follow-up cunt parade:
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What would you say to guys that use this line "no I'm not buying dances now but when I do, I'll come find you"?
I want to say no just go f*ck off but I am wondering want is a good response to these guys who say this? Or should I just continue to ignore when they say this?
I can't help but interpret it as a disrespectful lie/blow off.
I've also lost patience for it. I know there's a 1% chance of them buying a dance so I've taken to rolling my eyes and going "Ohhhhhhkay whatever you say".
Well I'm going to say something like "no thanks, don't try to find me cause I'll be busy/on to greener pastures/in vip with my regular in 20min"
I won't bully them into giving me money but these F*ckers gone learn .... a simple no thanks will do, otherwise I'm going to get really b*tchy right back.
Dont bother with these assholes! I'd be like, "Haha, good luck trying to find me! I'm a busy girl and I dont have time to wait around for people".
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There are actually some girls who seem to get it, though, so it's not a total cunt parade:
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just in case they do want to wait for a dance, i will always remain cordial. i'll go "ok, great, i'll check back with you in a bit" with a smile a. then i check back with them in a bit if i'm not doing dances with anybody else. some of them actually do want to settle in before buying dances, while with others its just a polite brush-off..but i always check back and remind them with "you look ready for your dance now"
they probably think its "polite" and are too chicken to actually say "no thanks i dont want a dance from you" if its a blow off. but honestly, aside from going back and basically calling their bluff and guilting/bullying them into getting the dance there's nothing you can really do except move on and ignore them
I think that catlover's answer is pretty awesome. In my experience, about 65-70% of the time they are just brushing you off. I am not sure why you would find it "disrespectful" that he is trying to reject you without hurting your feelings. If a man politely chatted you up and then asked for your phone number, or if you would like to stay and have a coffee with him in line at Starbucks, but you were not interested would you smile and say something like "Thanks, but I have a boyfriend" or flat out "Um, no. You'e not my type?". Give the guys a little credit; we are not at war with the customers!
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Look at that last quote! "We are not at war with the customers!". That girl definitely doesn't know how SW works! She's reasonable and honest and has the slightest bit of understanding of her customers -- she won't last long at SW :)
The one thing I will say -- I've been saying for a long time that passive-aggressive replies to strippers, in a misguided effort not to hurt their feelings ("I'm waiting for someone" "I just got here" "maybe later") are spineless moves that cause the strippers to lose all respect. Respectful, friendly, but straightforward and direct "no thanks" is the only way to go. I realize that the SW girls do NOT actually treat customers in the club the way they pretend to treat them when they write on SW, but really, I understand newbies, but SC regulars should have the basic amount of spine required to be direct without being disrespectful, and not act like little bitches.
Some choice quotes from the author, and the follow-up cunt parade:
SW quotes begin ----------------------------
What would you say to guys that use this line "no I'm not buying dances now but when I do, I'll come find you"?
I want to say no just go f*ck off but I am wondering want is a good response to these guys who say this? Or should I just continue to ignore when they say this?
I can't help but interpret it as a disrespectful lie/blow off.
I've also lost patience for it. I know there's a 1% chance of them buying a dance so I've taken to rolling my eyes and going "Ohhhhhhkay whatever you say".
Well I'm going to say something like "no thanks, don't try to find me cause I'll be busy/on to greener pastures/in vip with my regular in 20min"
I won't bully them into giving me money but these F*ckers gone learn .... a simple no thanks will do, otherwise I'm going to get really b*tchy right back.
Dont bother with these assholes! I'd be like, "Haha, good luck trying to find me! I'm a busy girl and I dont have time to wait around for people".
SW quotes end -----------------------------------------
There are actually some girls who seem to get it, though, so it's not a total cunt parade:
SW quotes begin ------------------------------------
just in case they do want to wait for a dance, i will always remain cordial. i'll go "ok, great, i'll check back with you in a bit" with a smile a. then i check back with them in a bit if i'm not doing dances with anybody else. some of them actually do want to settle in before buying dances, while with others its just a polite brush-off..but i always check back and remind them with "you look ready for your dance now"
they probably think its "polite" and are too chicken to actually say "no thanks i dont want a dance from you" if its a blow off. but honestly, aside from going back and basically calling their bluff and guilting/bullying them into getting the dance there's nothing you can really do except move on and ignore them
I think that catlover's answer is pretty awesome. In my experience, about 65-70% of the time they are just brushing you off. I am not sure why you would find it "disrespectful" that he is trying to reject you without hurting your feelings. If a man politely chatted you up and then asked for your phone number, or if you would like to stay and have a coffee with him in line at Starbucks, but you were not interested would you smile and say something like "Thanks, but I have a boyfriend" or flat out "Um, no. You'e not my type?". Give the guys a little credit; we are not at war with the customers!
------------------- SW quotes end
Look at that last quote! "We are not at war with the customers!". That girl definitely doesn't know how SW works! She's reasonable and honest and has the slightest bit of understanding of her customers -- she won't last long at SW :)
The one thing I will say -- I've been saying for a long time that passive-aggressive replies to strippers, in a misguided effort not to hurt their feelings ("I'm waiting for someone" "I just got here" "maybe later") are spineless moves that cause the strippers to lose all respect. Respectful, friendly, but straightforward and direct "no thanks" is the only way to go. I realize that the SW girls do NOT actually treat customers in the club the way they pretend to treat them when they write on SW, but really, I understand newbies, but SC regulars should have the basic amount of spine required to be direct without being disrespectful, and not act like little bitches.
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It's a total cunt parade.
Some are just less cuntified than others there.
When I really want dances with a girl and the timing is bad, such as I just arrived and want some time to settle in, I do my best to make sure she knows I'm serious and expect to see her again soon. But I often club during times it is not so busy I feel I'll not see her again.
If it is a very busy time and I find her attractive and dance worthy I'll grab her right then and not miss the opportunity. A often hard learned lesson of strip clubs -- he who hesitates masturbates.
But if I ever told a dancer "in a little while" and she actually responded with a statement as quoted above, I'd make sure she knew I was not going to spend a dime on her. Ever. Luckily I've never run into a cunt like that.
'Look at that last quote! "We are not at war with the customers!". That girl definitely doesn't know how SW works! She's reasonable and honest and has the slightest bit of understanding of her customers -- she won't last long at SW :)'
Fact check, I've been on SW for years and I'm a top earner everywhere I go...
I was also told that I wouldn't last long here. And here I am, two years later.
Some of you seem to make SW a daily part of your life. Why is that? At least shadow cat did the rational thing and simply didn't go back to SW, contrary to some guy here who seem to be infatuated with that site.
Why do we keep bringing these lame ass SW threads to TUSCL?
hence my post...
https://www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=2…
I LOVE reading StripperWeb. I find it absolutely fascinating. Shadowcat did the right thing -- it upset him, so he stopped reading it . It doesn't upset me, I love reading it, and I think it's fantastic fodder for interesting conversation here -- certainly more interesting than our daily serving of trolls. I expect I'll keep mining it for interesting threads... maybe a SW Thread of the Day theme! :)
As stated; TUSCL is open to ALL types of discussions – if SW wants to police what is posted and discussed and how it's discussed then that's their business *over there* - TUSCL is open for all discussion – and just b/c a SW thread is posted on here; not everyone will necessarily have a negative opinion towards-it; and even if that's the case; that's the internet; it's open and everyone is entitled to their opinion not just the opinions and styles of opinions moderated/policed by SW.
Unfortunately some do – many dancers do not seem to take rejection well and I'm sure many of us have experienced this – not saying it's the norm but most def happens.
Dancers like her are the equivalent of the (guy) loser in the singles-bar that can't take a hint when a chick is not interested and then gets all pissed at the chick when she won't give him the time of day.
It's SC bizarro-world.
If lots of guys use it, either she'll get used to it or maybe quit stripping because she can't handle getting insulted in her own mind.
I visited stripperweb maybe one time several years ago when this site was down. I didn't read much on it though.
"I hope you have a nice time with the lady of your choice"
I have 4 sisters, I feel no need to hear females venting about whatever. It can be good to know someone's hot buttons though.
In regards to the topic, I must be the 25%er because when I say I'll check back with you, I mean it. I learned from you fellas at TUSCL that if you see a girl you like and she approaches you, go with her immediately because you probably won't see her again. On the flip side, I JUST stepped in the club, I want to sit down and enjoy the scene.On the other hand, I want to make sure the few hotties that immediately approach me upon entry know that I will be back with them later. So what, do I have to give them a speal that I mean business when I say to check back later, because that seems like more work than necessary for a strip club with a bevel of "hot" beauties?
As for responding to dancers, I don't have any problem saying no thanks with a smile if I'm not interested. If I've just arrived, i tell them I just got there and want to chill and get a drink before getting dances. A problem in some clubs is that the ugliest dancers that aren't getting any action are the first to pounce when you walk in, hoping you don't have the balls to turn them down. I got over that guilt-complex years ago, and just say no. If I see someone I like, if they don't wander by, I walk to them and ask them to join me. Simple.
OTOH, when they ask to join me, I almost alwats say, "yes." Many of those dancers do get paid by me for lap dances. I am not immune to dancers wiles.
Some are just less cuntified than others there."
I dunno, I reserve the word "cunt" for pretty horrific behavior, and nothing simone or gia said seemed cunty to me. Maybe I don't agree with all they said, but I expect that, they're coming from a stripper POV and I'm coming from a customer POV, but they were both reasonable regardless. And Gia's right -- I am certainly not at war with strippers, I LOVE stripper and love being with them... it's SW attitudes that are the easy, worthy targets of my mockery : )
crazyjoe---> "We should troll stripperweb untill the internet breaks"
Well, I do enjoy when people troll SW -- there was a likely troll thread "What do you do when you have to take a crap at the club", that was hysterical, but I can't seem to find it now. But not at all interested in trolling them myself ... hell, the worst case in the world would be that they lock down SW so I can't pluck out threads to make fun of here anymore. I'd rather everyone leave it alone so the humor-and-fantasy factory keeps chugging along developing threads about how horribly insulting it is for a customer to tell you "maybe later" lol
Here is the thread you mentioned:
https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showth…
Nina->"You don't so much 'make fun of them' as you do discussing them and finding free entertainment from them so your pockets don't have to hurt"
Every forum, on every hobby and subject, is about entertainment in discussing that particular subject matter, for free. SW is just fodder for fun, interesting, sometimes-mocking discussion, just like 2amers are, and LDKing is, and TRs, and a little venting, no different than any other topic here is. Of COURSE that's why I'm (and everyone else is) here -- to get some free entertainment discussing all things strip clubs. SW discussion is no different than any other. Of course I enjoy it that I'm getting that entertainment for free -- you say it like it's a bad thing
And yes, along the way I do enjoy poking fun at SW
Gee Nina I didn't expect such hostility the assumption that I made was directly related to what you wrote, not that I really give a shit or even less but hey you are entitled to your opinion
My opinion is that you don't have the life experience to be the expert you would like us to think that you are.
The expert on what? What would I like you guys to think I am the 'expert' of? Enlighten me, please. Specify, please. Sounds to me that you just don't want to call me smart, so instead you make yet again an unfounded assumption that it doesn't matter how smart I am or how well I carry myself; since I'm young, I MUST be naïve and void of any significant life experience, right?
Seems like the best-way to go – keep it simple and unambiguous – but even then there will be some dancers that will not like this – some dancers complain some custies “will not give them a chance”.
Turn about is fair play.
Thank you for saying I'm intelligent. Anyway, the loophole in your theory is that I am not angry at all. In fact, I am rather calm at the moment as I was when I wrote the earlier posts. I am in a rather good mood; again, not angry whatsoever. If you perceive it that way, I would advise you to be less sensitive.
As far as 'seeking clarity" (LMAO!): as a dancer, I am not the one who needs to seek clarity on an issue like this, because as a stripper it is something that I have way more 'LIFE EXPERIENCE,' as you would say, than a male patron would on this subject. I have plenty of clarity since I am a dancer and not a customer.
Nice try. I would give you points for effort, but I don't give out freebies for bad work. ;)
I think strippers can find anything to complain about. For me, I have to ask myself whether I care. I personally, DO care if I said something that a reasonable person would interpret as insulting a stripper, or wasting her time in some way -- I never want to do that, and I think a polite "no thanks" fits the bill. I also think guys using "maybe later" "just got here" etc -- when they're doing it as a passive aggressive way to decline the stripper rather than actually meaning it -- is, whether they'll admit it or not, something they're doing because they're a bit intimidated and worried about how the stripper will react, and they think this is the easy way out. For those guys, "No thank you" might be a bit liberating and man them up a bit.
I've found that a good percentage of girls write off "maybe later" and just don't return, so if I REALLY mean "maybe later", I lay it on thick. "I totally want to get a dance with you, but want to enjoy the show for a while first. So I"m not 'maybe later-ing' you, please come back later if you're not already busy with a customer."
Nevertheless, motorhead... You can't handle the truth.
"so your pockets don't have to hurt" but guess what I don't give a rats ass either way so keep your points and freebies fortunately I can afford what I want and don't have to depend on the kindness of strippers.
What I said was, and I made it pretty clear, that you don't know me therefore you have NO IDEA what my life experience is, this it's a mere assumption that I must have 'little life experience.' I have plenty. Is life exoerience measured in age, or is it measured in actual experience? I'd presume the latter, apparently you may view it as the former. There may be silver spoon 50 year olds who've been sheltered their whole life and still have no concrete "life experience." I don't know you, so just like you are unable to measure my life experience, I am unable to measure yours. I would never presume to proclaim something about you when I don't know you from Adam, Eve, Steve, and the like.
Life experience has little to do with the subject at hand. Like I already alluded, you KNOW I am smart, so now you are trying a sorry attempt to throw life experience in the mix, because god forbid an almost 25 year old have a shred of life experience in areas that you wouldn't even be able to fathom.
First of all, wisdom doesn't simply "come to people after a few accomplishments." WTF? Wisdom is having knowledge and insight, as well as being able to judge properly what is true. You can fail 100 times and still have gained wisdom from your failures. Also, one can be 50 years old and no wiser than a 15 year old; hence the saying "wise beyond your years." Is it unlikely that a teenager may be more wise than a person whom is 50? Usually. Is it impossible? Nope!
Secondly, I am not angry, and my job is not to turn you on. You are not a customer of mine. So you can kill that thought.
Third, passing the bar is relatively easy and seeing as how I routinely score in top percentiles in standardized tests, I'd say getting through law school will be much more difficult than passing the bar afterwards.
Fourth, just because you didn't know shit at 25 doesn't mean I have the same fate. I am much more mature and have my shit together more than most people my age. Wisdom is relative. You and I are different people. You didn't know shit when you were my age; I do happen to know a little bit of shit.
Fifth - bringing up my material goods makes me feel that it angers you that I have them.
Sixth, since you don't know me, and don't know my LIFE EXPERIENCES, you have absolutely no idea how much wisdom I have. Perhaps I have none. Perhaps I am the wisest person on the planet. Both are extremes, I'm just illustrating that you would have no way of knowing.
Seventh, perhaps the reason you've started this argument and continue to talk about wisdom in a skewed context, is because maybe you are really not that wise.
https://www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=3…
And they do make fun of us with their galpals. ReiDetroit confirmed it. Lol!
The reason ReiDetroit entered the discussion is because while you were making false accusations and assumptions, SHE ACTUALLY WORKS WITH ME. No shit she is welcome to join the discussion and add substance to it. That is the difference. It's not rocket science.
https://www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=3…
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Keep entertaining the people Randy.
And that topic that you are referring to WASN'T EVEN A DEBATE:
It was a thread you created after having your ass handed to you (and not just by me), then you started the thread we are currently discussing saying you doubt my earnings could be good since I'm a clean dancer in Detroit.
Then ReiDetroit came into the discussion to inform you that she works with me (so she knows I'm a hustler) and said that I banked the previous night we worked together. She also was very confused as to why you were asking me what my earnings were. As was I.
The obsession continued. You were literally saying, "what are you racking in sweetie?" ...me not responding to that is NOT me losing an argument. Perhaps it was your unhealthy obsession of me for you to think we are that close for you to ask me what my income is and expect an answer at the drop of a hat. And because I didn't answer, I "lost"?
No, weirdo, YOU lost and remaim a loser because you tried to stalk someone who didn't want you and you're infatuated with me and my earnings. You're the type of psycho I wouldn't want within 500 feet of me in real life. You're probably on a sex offender registry or something.
Aren't you a wannabe rapper?
Bye.
I'm not interested in you, never have been, never will be. You're not hot enough for my tastes. But yeah go ahead and think I'm obsessed with you if it makes it feel you better.
Funny you say wannabe rapping. I actually made 188K this past year, most of it from "wannabe rapping", and this was all independently. I'm currently in negotiations for a record deal, so in a month or so I'll be able to take care of my family for generations.
One more thing, a member of my family was sexually abused, so I don't take sexual offenders lightly. Don't you ever again put me and sex offender in the same sentence, or I will come to Detroit and make you say to my face.
Have a good day.
Are you threatening me with that last paragraph? As a person who's had more than one family members' sexual perpetrators get no legal punishment for their criminal acts, and I am genuinely sorry your family member was abused, if that is actually true.
However, I will not take back my comments and I can put "YOU" and "sex offender" in the same sentence; considering that I literally told you I wouldn't want you to be within 500 feet of me, I was serious. Now that you are threatening to come to Detroit (which keep in mind is my actual hometown), you are verifying my concerns of the possibility that you are an actual psycho. Come to my club, I will say it to your face if you want me to and then have you escorted out of MY CLUB. That's OK, after that you can hit the streets and sell your mixtapes for $1.
Book your flight.
Bye, boy.
Not independent like I'm selling mix tapes on the streets. Independent as far as label. I was on a independent label. For example Koch is a independent label. E1 is independent. 300 is independent. I'm looking for the major label. Major labels would be for example: Def Jam, Atlantic, Epic etc. I wouldn't expect you to know any of that. I've been behind the scenes writing songs for other people getting my publishing and songwriting checks. 2015 was a good year. I actually just did a song with a pretty popular artist, and we just finished all the paperwork, you should be hearing it on the radio next month.
This is what's gonna happen when I walk into your club.
Me: Hey Nina, it's me, the person you called you a sex offender on TUSCL. Why don't you say that to my face?
Nina: Ok. I think you're a sex offff..... Damn you are one sexy motherfucker. I take back everything I said about you. I shouldn't have taken things too seriously. It is a strip club website, it's not real life. I apologize.
Me: Cool. I don't hold grudges.
Nina: How long are you gonna be in Detroit? You should come back to my crib after my shift. I've always wanted to fuck a young, wealthy, handsome guy.
Me: I don't know you like that Nina.
Nina: You're telling me you don't wanna hit this from behind?
Me: I'll think about it.
:) :)
I don't know if it's a woman think or a stripper thing (or a combination) but she reminds me so much of my CF. She speaks her mind, and if I get offended, she just says you're too sensitive.