Money from Tattoos (SW discussion)
Subraman
Car key and wallet dating your sister
Here are some choice quotes, each from a different poster--
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"Charge every time someone asks you what your tattoo means. Seriously, anybody that has a tattoo in another language like I do knows how often we're asked (often pestered and personal space is invaded) so let's try it. Got a single character? Charge a dollar. A whole couple sentences? Fuck yeah charge 5 bucks or more"
"I tell them to give me money or fuck off. Simple. At my home club guys know better than to ask about my ink without first offering tribute."
"Typically I say something like, "You can have a much better look at it upstairs" I just literally don't answer any personal questions on the floor."
"That's a personal question and personal questions are $5 or free with a dance"
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I rarely ask about tattoos, because I find them a trashy turnoff, and I'd rather just ignore them. But taking things at face value for a moment ... Have you ever had a girl try to charge you just for asking about a tattoo? Do girls tell you that "personal questions" (although we can argue about how "personal" it is to ask about an openly-displayed tattoo) cost money to answer or are free with a dance? Is this the kind of bullshit you nightshift guys have to deal with, any attempt at conversation yields a "pay more or take me for a dance" response??? Whether it's about tattoos or not, does every -- or ANY -- lightly personal question yield this kind of response?
I ask because I've been SCing longer than many of these women have been alive, and I have NEVER gotten this type of response (pay me or buy a dance) from any stripper, dayshift or nightshift, across many strip clubs in several states. Is this just the typical "SW girls pretending to act a certain way to look good on SW, but don't actually remotely act that way ITC", or are there high-hustle clubs with uber-hustler strippers who pull this off? What's your experience?
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It also falls into the category of "things they hear twenty times a night and get bored of".
Evidently, some guys actually have the temerity to tell her that!
Over-entitled SW girl --->"You're gonna piss guys off otherwise and get the inevitable "well don't get tattoos if you don't want guys to ask what they mean". Fuckers. "
I've never asked about a stripper's tattoos, because I assume that I'll get a line of bullshit if it's a personal answer. Also, with only a few exceptions, I've hardly ever see a stripper with good tattoos. Trying to charge me for asking about tattoos would likely end our conversation.
And yes, there's plenty of hyperbole and keyboard commando'ing here, too, although even trying to be as impartial as I can, I think SW has things at a whole 'nother level. We're pikers at being poseurs, compared to them, and that's saying something.
How's that for keyboard courage.
These days the most I'll ask is:
+ what other clubs have you danced at
+ how long you've been dancing
+ where you raised in this area
+ or just general convo about the club
charlie61--->"I never win any points from hustles like this. I might get the $5, but then I'll lose the dance sale. Guys tend to be turned off by miniature exchanges like that, unless you can really pull off the playful / party / fun vibe. Otherwise they feel like they're being nickel-and-dimed for asking a fairly basic question.
I understand that tattoos are very personal for their owners, and I understand that not every dancer wants to broadcast her tattoos to the world, even if she has to in order to work as a stripper. But this is one of those take-it-in-stride things that just comes with the territory, IMO. We all get asked about moles, scars, any anything else on our bodies that is different or gets their attention. It's part of being a dancer. So I guess my advice would be to come up with a short, cute, stock answer that you use all of the time so that you don't feel emotionally invested in your answer. Lie about the meaning of the tattoo or just say "I thought it was pretty!" *wink*
Defensive hustles don't work for me. More power to you if they work for you! I'd rather answer the stupid question and change topics to close the sale on a dance instead. "-------->
Charlie61 has had some good advice in some of the other SW comedies/tragedies I've been posting, and for me, this advice was right-on also. She used a more dispassionate tone than I would have, but her main points were right on.
1. Learn to take it in stride, it comes with the territory
2. If it bugs you or you consider it personal, come up with some cutesy reply
3. Trying to nickel-and-dime every little thing, as so often espoused on SW, is going to be a huge turn-off for most guys. No way a girl who tries to get $5 from me for asking about her tattoo, is going to get $5, much less the $300 I might have otherwise spent on her.
Any dancer who demanded I pay for an explanation of her tattoos would never have to worry about me talking to her again. Ever.