LDK Encouraged
celayatable
Minnesota
So I'm a newbie to the board. One of the topics that I seem to question is the frowning down upon LDKing in the club.
While I do not have the ability or time to frequent establishments with the consistency of many of you. I enjoy the hobby. The infrequency with which I am able to visit clubs prevents connecting with regulars, as my visits are limited. As such, options for extras ITC and OTC are a challenge.
I do frequent a club with mostly AA talent (I have similar tastes to Papi). I also agree with him that AA dancers are more flexible and willing to provide mileage - especially if one is up front and respectful and open about expectations. On a recent visit, I inquired about OTC with with a curvy dancer. She indicated that while she was not available that evening, she would be delighted to "get me off" in the VIP. Which, along with some grinding and two way touching led to a messy, albeit happy conclusion.
I have experienced this on a number of occasions. In particular willing dancers who appear to take pride in their ability to get me off. I generally allow this to occur when there is a willingness and encouragement of the dancer to agree.
I look back to my first time in a club, as an 18 year-old when a Puerto Rican mami told me... Honey, do not be embarrassed, but I AM going to make you cum in your pants.
It is clear that we all began this twisted journey somewhere. And that we are all at different places. I don't simply see the shame in an LDK, especially when actively encouraged or welcomed by the dancer.
While I do not have the ability or time to frequent establishments with the consistency of many of you. I enjoy the hobby. The infrequency with which I am able to visit clubs prevents connecting with regulars, as my visits are limited. As such, options for extras ITC and OTC are a challenge.
I do frequent a club with mostly AA talent (I have similar tastes to Papi). I also agree with him that AA dancers are more flexible and willing to provide mileage - especially if one is up front and respectful and open about expectations. On a recent visit, I inquired about OTC with with a curvy dancer. She indicated that while she was not available that evening, she would be delighted to "get me off" in the VIP. Which, along with some grinding and two way touching led to a messy, albeit happy conclusion.
I have experienced this on a number of occasions. In particular willing dancers who appear to take pride in their ability to get me off. I generally allow this to occur when there is a willingness and encouragement of the dancer to agree.
I look back to my first time in a club, as an 18 year-old when a Puerto Rican mami told me... Honey, do not be embarrassed, but I AM going to make you cum in your pants.
It is clear that we all began this twisted journey somewhere. And that we are all at different places. I don't simply see the shame in an LDK, especially when actively encouraged or welcomed by the dancer.
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I feel ya, luckily the establishments I frequent allow me to get away with more.
Most adults have moved on.
I agree that we are all at different stages, and that there should be no judgment about what stage a particular guy is in. This is often controlled by matters outside of his control like where he clubs, how much money he has, and the influence of his wife or girlfriend. Thus, while in hindsight an LDK does now seem pathetic to me given where I am today, I respect those who for their own reasons are at that stage or any other stage in the progression of a strip club enthusiast.
The secret is determining which dancers are which before getting a dance.
You forgot the last step ? The limp dick years
Sure, in the context of an off the clock relationship, some ejaculation services once in a while are fine.
But if you are paying for it, and if you like the girl, then I say you want to do something to her, so its DFK, DATY, or FS. Any BJ or HJ is secondary and only preliminary
SJG
https://sites.google.com/site/sjgportal/…
Rod Stewart, I can take this guy audio only. But video he is too much. I believe it must be only women who like him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoqWHQLA…
I'm limited by both time and geography. As a professional, I can in no way visit my local club. Likewise, I have to be cautious when visiting popular clubs in Minneapolis. Which happens to be very conservative for extras. I'm like many hobbyists, whom I believe lack the convenience of regular visits to establish a relationship. I have had offers for OTC. However, none that would have been safe to pursue without a better knowledge of the dancer.
I also want to avoid disease... As I'm in no position to get or spread an STI to my new girlfriend.
If I lived in Atlanta or New Orleans, I'd be hitting Follies or Passions on the regular.
Likewise... I can comfortably claim to be one of the few of you who has actually fucked a stripper without paying (with drugs or money). One who I met outside of the club... If only I could go back to those college days...
So there are constraints. But overall the goal should be to be to publicly stand up for what you believe in. So I will be heavily involved in many ways with lots of women, many of them coming from strip clubs.
In the mean time, I focus on the tasks before me.
So if I lived in Atlanta or New Orleans, and was not involved in temporary other matters, I'd be about in public with women I'd met at Follies or Passions, and some of them would be my girlfriends.
Good topic you've started. There are people here who are going to have very strong feelings about this.
SJG
https://sites.google.com/site/sjgportal/…
Genesis 2007
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1oJ-Ib8…
But what others are probably saying is, if you can, aim higher.
Er,... Just not literally.