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Correcting: If she says she doesn't see PL's outside the club or gives a vague reply, i smile and delete the number as soon as possible.

I see no reason to ask for her number unless you have already agreed to meet OTC. If she doesn't want to do OTC, then the only other reason to swap numbers is so that you can keep going to the club and spending money on her.

The entire reason for clubbing is to get as many numbers as possible....hahahaha

No jk. I agree with shadow. No reason to even ask if they are not qualified leads

That's why you're the Lone_ Wolf.

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You guys are looking for high mileage pussy. That's fine if it's your thing. It's easier and cheaper. But I like lower mileage pussy, and they usually say no the first time. Hell video girl said no several times but now she says yes yes yes cause she loves my money and she's no longer afraid of all the things that concerned her initially.

I don't spend 18 months to get them, but I invest more than a single visit. I never grease bouncers, and I have never in my entire life worn a suit of any kind to a strip club. But I work to get non-OTC girls to let me bust their cherry. I look at it as a public service. I introduce them to the joys of fucking older men for money, and then they're available for everyone else.

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I take a more subtle build up approach folks:) I get the number,get them comfortable with me. Text and see when they are working and eventually get around to OTC. I think this way I am able to do OTC with girls and don't usually do it.

Same with me, tlk. I always get their phone # the very first time I meet them, so I can arrange to meet them again, but I don't ask them about OTC until sometime down the line. I do this partially for the same reason as you and JS69 -- more likely to score girls who are more selective -- but also because I just fucking love going to the strip club (my goal for SCing isn't OTC; my goal is to have fun at the SC, and OTC is just gravy) and just want to coordinate with her to make sure she'll be there on my visits

I'm with JS69. If I want high mileage pussy I'll call an escort. The point of stripper pussy is you have some kind of relationship as well as the sex. Any girl that fucks me on a first meeting will fuck anyone so she isn't someone I'll want to get to know, and especially won't go BB with. I prefer the lower mileage models that takes time. Yes, sometimes the time and money come to a no good end as JS69 has another thread on, but I also enjoy the pursuit, so it's time well spent.

My best OTC girls were ones who said no initially. Sometimes the really good ones take a little time. So I am always happy to exchange phone numbers with a hot stripper, but I'm not going to spend much time and only modest money chasing after her.

I agree with those who don't give up after a "no" or few. Both my ATF and the MILF took between three and six months before they agreed to meet OTC, and the MILF wouldn't even blow me for the six months it took her. In both cases, waiting was absolutely worth it.

Although there have been lots of girls I've seen one or two times, almost all the girls I've seen more than a few times OTC were initial "no" or "maybe" girls.

" If she says she doesn't see PL's outside the club, i smile and delete the number as soon as possible."

I never ask if she "sees customers outside the club". I only care if she'll see me.

Chandler has a good point. The goal of the "4th best system ever" is to convince a girl who doesn't regularly do OTC that she should do it with you. So you present yourself and why you are a good OTC candidate, and then ask if she'll do it with you.

I'm 100% with that. Especially with "low mileage pussy" as you put it, girls who are picky about who they OTC with (or girls who don't or haven't done OTC at all -- like the new girls I enjoy so much), I make everything personal about what she and I might do together, and never about what she generically does with "customers". The whole point is that I'm hoping she doesn't often do these things with customers, but that I'll sweet-talk her into doing it with me.

Anyway, nothing wrong with the guys who just want easy OTC with girls they've just met

Yup! i asked a girl not long ago if she wanted to do some "dances" outside the club with me sometime. She said she doesn't meet people outside the club. I said I didn't ask if you meet people outside the club i want to know if you would meet me.So I worked on her for a while. came to see her ,bought her some perfume..etc. About 3 month's later she did.

I have lots of stories just like that. Maybe she read you or me perfectly and just strung us along or whatever, maybe we're getting way more selective girls. I'm hoping it's the latter. 3 months is usually longer than I'd wait, depending on how often I was going to see her, but I'm perfectly comfortable pursuing her for a little while

I've never been that mechanical with girls. Maybe when I was much younger and actually quite scared. But not since I started learning about them simply by interacting with them in our local strip clubs.

That fact that it is a place where P4P can be set up, does not change this. They need to have their space to steer it the way they want. And most of the time what they are waiting for is to see how you want to steer it.

I don't treat women in strip clubs differently than I treat women in other places.

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I've never asked for a number, but I've been asked for mine a few times. Since I'm mileage Kryptonite, I've always declined.

As someone who'd exchange numbers, would you use that as a starter for: "What did you have in mind? Letting me know you're working, or a hookup?"

I think it helps to treat the girl like you would a non stripper. Pretty much don't be a jerk. Maybe she saw alot OTC but I had a stripper in FL offer OTC and it was my first visit and I was on business travel in her city. Question for posters, do you give the strippers your real cell or some type of number that rings your cell?

@mroo: Generally, I would have attempted to ascertain her interest in OTC before exchanging numbers. However, I've exchanged numbers with lots of girls I never thought would meet outside, but who were interesting and permissive enough to want to know when they were working. In other words, by the time we exchange numbers, there's little question as to why.

@Ch3ll: I use Google Voice with a burn email address. I use it with my real phone, but that's not really very secure. If you want to conceal it from a wife or LEO, use a burn phone that you don't mind throwing away if things get hot. Google Voice doesn't add to that security, it just adds some features I find convenient.

Ch3ll----> Question for posters, do you give the strippers your real cell or some type of number that rings your cell?

I use something like google voice or Line2 at first, but if I get to know her well, eventually switch her over to my real number. Especially if she's going to be sending me pictures, regular texting works best, but I need to know her decently well before we'll do that. All assuming you're single; strategy might change a bit otherwise.

mroo-----> " As someone who'd exchange numbers, would you use that as a starter for: "What did you have in mind? Letting me know you're working, or a hookup?""

Well, depends on your M.O., right? For me, exchanging numbers is nothing but exchanging numbers -- I typically do it the very first time I meet a stripper that I like, but I'm not going to pop the OTC question until sometime down the line, so no reason to ask about "hookups" at this point, and I don't really care what SHE has in mind, I'm going to use her number to set up ITC appointments with her so I can get to know her and figure out if I want to OTC with her. But, if your M.O is to know on the spot whether she does OTC so you can move on if she doesn't, this seems like a fine time to ask.

mroo - "As someone who'd exchange numbers, would you use that as a starter for: "What did you have in mind? Letting me know you're working, or a hookup?"

Yes, each situation is different but I usually use some variation of this. Many of these honey's would not be caught dead OTC with a PL under any circumstances.

I like to filter these ladies out as soon as possible.