I may take a lot of shit for this, but who cares. I've had plenty of hard grinds and extras in my day, but every now and then I find myself in the mood for something different. I've done a few VIPs with a few dancers (who were good conversationalists) where we just hung out a bit and talked about science, politics, philosophy, etc.
I'm in a weird mood today and am thinking of heading out to the clubs tonight to see if I can just sit and hold a dancer for the duration of the VIP time block. Like, have her sit on my lap and then put my arms completely around her and hold her tight for 20 or 30 minutes. Will girls be at all amenable to this? Or is it too weird? I can't see this being a problem when I'd be paying the normal dance costs, but I've been wrong before
There's been some serious shit in my life lately, and I'm not particularly sure why I crave this sometimes. But I do.
I have some custies who prefer doing that - they are my favorite, lol. Trust me, cuddling with a customer is absolutely not strange to a stripper. I don't understand how anyone would feel weird about that.
Lol will the girls go for that? Are you kidding? Sit on someone's lap and do nothing for a VIP? And gat paid for it? Have you ever met a dancer in real life who wouldn't wish that every VIP was like that?
Thanks for the response. I did have one dancer several years back who said she "only did that kind of stuff with her boyfriend," so I stopped asking for it for awhile.
She told me that hard grinding and overtly sexual dance moves were actually easier than cuddling/allowing a customer to hold her, because the latter seemed too personal/romantic, etc.--especially with someone she didn't really know.
What pretty much everyone else said. When my ATF was still working, I'd get an hour VIP. When I was done, and she'd gotten hers, 30 minutes *max*, we'd cuddle on the couch for the rest of the time.
There's a guy who occasionally SCs with us, who does this. We all give him a ration of shit over it, but he digs it, and I'll tell you, when the girls see him walk into the club, I think their eyes actually turn into $ signs, like in the cartoons :) My sense is, most girls like it. I could imagine occasionally running into a girl like you described, IF, who finds it too intimate
Many of us PLs are into/like GFE but IMO most would not want to pay VIP prices just to cuddle; but if this is what you want/need; def nothing wrong w/ that.
You are the customer and the one with the $$$; nothing wrong w/ you having a set of expectations for what you are paying for – similar to some custies wanting FS; there are dancers that are down and dancers that are not – you just need to find the right dancer just like the FS-wanting PL tries to find his right dancer.
I do that in the front room all the time FOR FREE ! Why pay for that in VIP ??? You guys are ruining it for everyone else. Pretty soon you'll be paying her $50 extra to hold your hand on the way back to VIP. Geesh !!!!
yeah, like jestrite50 said, sometimes you can get that free out on the floor, especially if you've already bought a VIP (she'll be in a good mood) or a few dances from a stripper. although, there's certainly nothing wrong with paying for it in VIP if that's what you want;;it's your money
this past thursday night i was at a club and it was DEAD. did VIP with a dancer and afterwards she came over and sat in my lap after i sorta cued her to do it.
I've definitely met cuddlers out on the floor, and absolutely indulge. The thing is, eventually she'll expect to be compensated for her time. I guess you could always just hand her $100 and say "that's for cuddling the past.2 hours", and win for her because she won't have to pay a % back to the club since it's not an official dance. But, as long as you're spending your $100, might as well go to the back where it feels more intimate (just you, her, and the bouncer watching on the video camera)
Yes, Jestrite50 has illuminated the real issue, why not try and do what you want with her in the front room. Most things should be doable there.
1. No house cut of the money 2. You are more the one leading it, as she is not performing some service for you. 3. No fixed time interval that you have prepaid or preagreed to. You can just be feeding her money has is mutually agreeable. If you are nice to her, it might not cost much.
Then later if you want to go further, you can take her to the VIP room. And of course if you want a GFE experience with her, the front room is the place to make it go that way.
Once had a favorite who said to me "Watch this." when she went to do some table dances for some guy. Every time she started to take off some article of clothing, he would stop her. He just watched her dance non-nude. Not even topless. I think we would have freaked if she wore a nun's habit.
Lots of dancer interviews in the book. Most of the girls come to have regulars who they sit on the laps of for extended periods of time. Some of these guys are spending large portions of their monthly income. They talk and talk and mostly it is just sitting, not much more.
To be clear, I probably wouldn't pay much *just* to cuddle. Maybe a drink, or a tip. Lots of girls seem to like to snuggle up when in a drink, and sometimes just for the sake of snuggling. There's no fucking way I'm turning that down.
I've done this before with the DS. One night in the VIP we were both so tired and high that we fell asleep in each other's arms. I am ok doing this with her cause I know she'll spend the night with me after her shift. However, almost any dancer would do this with you. Most would much rather do that than what they are typically asked to do in the VIP.
I remember this one Japanese fuck who would sit on the VIP with the same girl every night all night and just cuddle and get one or two dances an hour while paying God-knows-how much for this. You won't out weird him.
I myself have always wondered why patrons do the cuddling thing in the private dance booths... When most girls would easily do the same thing out on the floor, especially if you tip them. The girls do the cuddling thing as a way of enticing a patron. Either for private dances, or a way of pumping more money out of them. Because, they know all human beings need the love and warmth of another. I occasionally do this and will remind the girls that they can keep the full amount because nobody is taking a cut. The girls are sometimes more inclined and receptive to do this, (if they are smart). The few, that are not, tell me they will only do dances. And those, are the not so smart ones! ;)
Sometimes I get tired of heavy grinding. If a dancer feels cool, that can feel good especially if you're hot. Now I spotted one dancer who not only looked very hot, she really was hot sweating away soaking wet on stage. I was thinking she might be a 9 in looks but I wouldn't want a dance from her with her soaking wet.
cuddle? Do that for free or while waiting for a two for one dance special.
To each his own I guess but I don't pay for cuddling. I do the cuddling, DFK, groping, petting, out on the main floor. I try to find a table toward a back corner where it's darker and less obvious. This front room interaction FOR FREE I might say (with the exception of a couple regularly priced drinks) leads to the real action you want in VIP and also has led to many OTC adventures for me. To me if your just cuddling in VIP you're just spinning your wheels and wasting your money. Let's go for the real thing not this High School Stuff ! (Actually the High School guys are getting more than you're getting)
It's your money to spend. If you are getting what you want or need from it, then fuck what anybody else thinks. From what I have heard and seen over the years, you are far from alone. We all need human contact from time to time.
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last commentShe told me that hard grinding and overtly sexual dance moves were actually easier than cuddling/allowing a customer to hold her, because the latter seemed too personal/romantic, etc.--especially with someone she didn't really know.
So I assumed most dancers felt this way.
I would play with her tits as long as she would allow, however.
You are the customer and the one with the $$$; nothing wrong w/ you having a set of expectations for what you are paying for – similar to some custies wanting FS; there are dancers that are down and dancers that are not – you just need to find the right dancer just like the FS-wanting PL tries to find his right dancer.
this past thursday night i was at a club and it was DEAD. did VIP with a dancer and afterwards she came over and sat in my lap after i sorta cued her to do it.
1. No house cut of the money
2. You are more the one leading it, as she is not performing some service for you.
3. No fixed time interval that you have prepaid or preagreed to. You can just be feeding her money has is mutually agreeable. If you are nice to her, it might not cost much.
Then later if you want to go further, you can take her to the VIP room. And of course if you want a GFE experience with her, the front room is the place to make it go that way.
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She told me it did this every month.
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Lots of dancer interviews in the book. Most of the girls come to have regulars who they sit on the laps of for extended periods of time. Some of these guys are spending large portions of their monthly income. They talk and talk and mostly it is just sitting, not much more.
Also, from girl on girl stage action, to your own lap:
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cuddle? Do that for free or while waiting for a two for one dance special.
"Wanna Dance" is clip joint talk.
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X ft. Ray Manzeriek, Universal Corner live
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