PIMP GAME

Seems like too much effort for me personally – I rather just do the P4P thing and skip the potential drama and extra effort.

I guess you are in the quest to find your bottom bitch :)

I just trying to get my stable started :)

This does solve the fundamental problem that no decent stripper will fuck with her own money, but not too many strippers will waste time on a non spender.

I'm very curious to hear more about your "results".

@GACA- Good luck brother! Don't be afraid to work your game in the upscale clubs.

@JamesSD I frequent these clubs. Had three on rotation but down to two.

I go any day M-Th, will spend two hours typically. It's usually dead, most times they are dying for conversation. And I mean dead. I don't have a set pattern. I'm as whimsical with showing up as they are. Sometimes I go back to back days other times I skip a week or two.

Anyway it didn't take more than a month to get super cozy. I generally have one favorite and the favorite's friend bullshitting in the corner with me.

When my favorite goes on to her rotation the other girls swoop in to "chat". It's dead remember, and they see money. They know I'm there for Fave, they won't ask me for dances just sit around like puppies. Try to start conversation. Some will go into the back, but come out during their set, that's when I throw a little change at them give them some hope, and if there is another customer I'll say "god that fckn asshole won't even tip two dollars so you can pay for your next set"

Anyway. This particular girl was one I was actually into in the beginning but she hustled way too hard So I stopped throwing anything at her. She would come by and ask why I didn't like her anymore. Whatever. I told her in the most thuggish way "cuz bitch, you don't come at me right", anyway instead of course of cutting me off now she's trying to get me to like her again. Disgusting I know.

So on Saturday the fave is out of town, her friend is there asking for dances I decline say I'm just going to drink and stage tip. This particular girl walk by doesn't even look at me so I say to her. "DAMN!!! you're hot as fck tonight I want a dance" Apparently that little bit of ego stroking is all it took. She kept talking to me until closing, and right before closing I said "so what's up?" And she said "I'm not like that and I don't want no trouble with "blah blah" And I said, "why you always try to play me, that's why you never get any love from me, you're fake as shit" She said "I ain't fake I just do want any trouble" At which point I touched her face and said, "don't worry it's not even like that, I just want to kick it with you tonight cuz I like your vibe" And she not having a working vehicle agreed to let me give her a ride home. Stopped at a gas station for "gum". The rest is history.

@oh less you assume otherwise, thus is a white girl I'm talking about. Oh Strippers.

@Nukam thanks brutha... I'm taking baby step, but definitely planning on taking my game up to the next level

And lastly, I don't typically go the "thug" route. I was trying something different, and unsurprisingly based on everything we talk about here (yet still surprising) it worked.

"After work home girl! Roll by the crib and let's get my mackin', crackin!' " I used to work with guys who talked like this. Is it still cool?

Thug life. youtube.com

Sounds great to me. I'm not sure if you're talking about Portland or LA or where, and how thuggish it is.

And yes, the greatest players have learned how to play girls off against each other. It just works. That is the way girls are. If they really want to fuck you, they can do it for free. The money always has some more complex meaning for them.

So yes, please do keep us posted as to your newest 'results"

SJG

@SJG I'm actually surprised you approve, especially with your "anti-nonchalant" stance on interacting with strippers and preaching on the GFE.

I have to admit it was a slightly depressing emotional experience. I'm glad I accomplished a personal goal, and damn did she have an awesome rack, and she actually sucked a good dick; however, at the cost of my regard toward another human being, never held anyone in lower esteem. Sure I'm going to go get it for as long as she's handing it out but it's already feeling like diminishing returns.

I honestly feel like I lost a little bit of my humanity that morning in exchange for some non-paid for pussy. But hey, that's the cost to be the boss I guess. I got a couple really good fckn nuts though. #SorryNotSorry

It's actually a perplexing existential conundrum for me.

La Vida da la comida a la gente sin dientes

That's what it's starting to feel like

(that or I'm really tired right now and when I get some rest and reflect on it later I'll be all like. "HELL Ya!!! Smashed that shit nigga!!!")

Wanting is often more enjoyable than having.

^^^ true story bro... as long as you don't have, you can still romanticize

^^^ unless of course you're JS69 and have the best of both :)

By being anti-nonchalant what I meant was placing that ahead of getting laid. Being nonchalant usually does help you get laid, so long as it does not go too far in the wrong situation. When you are dealing with one girl at a time and asking her to engage in uncompensated sex, sometimes you do have to compromise.

But in the types of situations you are describing, you have to be nonchalant, otherwise you will get eaten alive.

This gets to why I am posting again. I though last night about what you are describing. As you get involved in the ongoing drama between a group of girls, you can try to stay nonchalant, but it won't work. You will be drawn into their drama, and worse still, you will become like them. It is inevitable. Soon you will become short sighted in your goals and objectives. Your commitment to broad based principles and values will be replaced with mere survivalism. Soon you won't want to do anything which doesn't place immediate cash into your hand. So they will turn you into a pimp, like the character in Grand Theft Auto San Andreas.

I was thinking I might like to offer to help you with your research project. But no! Your research project is dangerous. It is more than just dangerous, it is suicidal.

SJG

standing up and cheering in the theater, Superfly youtube.com

@SJG drawn into drama?

I'd like to think I'm a little further up the Emotional Intelligence scale than to get caught up in stripper shit. Of things got unpleasant I simply frequent another establishment.

And I'm incredibly short sighted already. Who else would venture into the world of strippers of not a myopic instant gratification thrill seeking individual

Men can easily stay put of girl drama if they choose to.

They may try to pull us in, but we can always say no. We might end up being part of the battlefield, buy we don't have to enlist as soldiers.

"I'd like to think I'm a little further up the Emotional Intelligence scale than to get caught up in stripper shit."

If you're fucking them, then they've got you. It's just that way. They don't understand a man's life, and so they don't respect it.

This is a good movie, and it includes a fictional pimp, and he explains how it is done. imdb.com

A real pimp has the girls much more tightly wound into him, as they are making money for him. You aren't a real pimp, you are just play acting. As you let them manipulate you, you'll be getting old even before they do.

Really Dangerous!

SJG

Real pimps can be vicious characters. I saw one in action, berating one of his girls at a bus stop once. He put me off and I made sure he knew it. They say that the trumpet player Louis Armstrong saw them pistol whipping their girls in public, in New Orleans. In the movie "Superfly", the main character doesn't have the stomach for that, so he downplays that aspect of his business.

You are not a real pimp, and so your motivations are more complex. So it's just like "being nonchalant", just posturing.

SJG

"I used to work with guys who talked like this. Is it still cool?"................It's never been cool.

Acting nonchalant can work in most any situation if you're semi-decent looking. I can see it working real well in a SC. The more comfortable they are with you and the friendlier you are with everyone the better looking you become. Being there all the time and not acting like a typical PL; esp when it's dead, makes them even more comfortable around you. But, that pretty much works anywhere there's a "captive" group of women and a limited # of men. Office building, fast food, prison..... If you're just a big fat slob, no teeth and smell like jabba the hut this is all moot anyway. In that case you're just a wallet.

I wouldn't want to be there when your "queen bee" comes back. I can see the chica you gave the ride home running her mouth getting all catty in the DR about how she fucked her regular, blah, blah, blah. Your QB might be pissed and tell you to go hang out with your new friend, might not care or might just ignore you completely from now on. Hopefully for your sake it's one of the last 2. Just keep acting nonchalant and you may intrigue some of the others to try some OTC activities with you.