Your a great guy, but your too nice...
Timex345
Illinois
be rich. Let's see. You want me to treat you badly (lying, cheating, etc.)?
Anyways, I no longer care about being labeled the nice guy.
There is poetic justice when I see or hear about women who choose the bad boy.
They usually get cheated on, lied to, or dumped for a younger girl ( see the Real Housewives
of New York for examples).
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Shailynn said it best, girls love rejection and "nice guys" don't reject.
Keep going to strip clubs. Get some OTC, become more discerning. You won't hear it for too much longer.
These categories aren't mutually exclusive. Most people have been an asshole at some point and been burned by one at others. It reminds me of one of the more insightful points on this topic. The rapper Ice Cube was being interviewed in the documentary 'Good Hair' (which itself was on an entirely different topic) when he said, to have power over a woman you gotta be "fly'er" than her.
Not saying nice guys ain't fly guys, but nice guys probably don't like a worldview where there's "fly" and fly'er", aka hierarchy. They also probably don't like to view male-female dynamics (aka human sexual selection) as one dealing with the notion of power. Which is a very 'nice' perspective, and I hope more people proscribe to that (more pussy for those of us that don't). But until then, as Freud explained, everything is about sex, except sex which is about power.
Being thought of and referred to as a nice guy by women is probably the worst thing IMO – i.e. it’s the kiss of death.
Not saying one needs to be an ahole; but def it’s best to come across as indifferent rather than needy.
When I was growing up my older brother by 3 years told me a friend of his told him you should never like a chick more than she likes you – IDK how valid this statement is but it may have some merit.
I guess one can be “nice” as long as he does not come across as a wimp; needy; or a pushover. – i.e. don’t like her or do more for her than she likes you or does for you.
It is code for "you don't excite me"
Chicks dig confidence...
they just can't tell the difference between confidence and arrogance.
A dude needs to be a man – it takes a man to make a female feel like a woman – being her buddy at best will probably just put you in the same boat as her female friends and you’ll probably just get used as an emotional crutch (especially if you get “friend-zoned” for being a nice-guy at the beginning).
Much more often I’ve heard things along the lines of “I can’t believe I fucked that jerk/asshole”.
In general the correct setting either way is to be Cocky and Funny. Sincerity doesn't go very far. Compliments should be given sparingly.
There's a time to be "nice", and it's after you've already fucked her at least once.
LDK, I've always tried to treat women nice and with respect; guess that's why I've been exiled to the friend zone my entire life. Course, being a geek probably never helped matters any either.
That is: any dude that appears to offer her a Bigger Better Deal.
Nice guys are safe, but offer no upward mobility or increase in social esteem. Jerks, in a weird way, offer a form of safety due to the assumption that, if they're jerky enough, no one will fuck with them.
Nice rich guys, on the other hand, get laid. Handsome guys get laid. Nice guys that are good listeners with no prospects for prosperity . . . well, we know how that turns out.
She said that being persistent, as long as it's not in a creepy way, will often times pay off.