Couple prices for LD’s?
seaboardrr
Alabama
I understand that we’re in the minority so there’s probably no incentive for a club to do anything like this but wouldn’t a club want to be known as “couple friendly”? That’s another 50% of the population they might possibly lure into the club. Again, I know I’ll hear 1 for $20 and 2 for $40 but it’s still just 1 dance. We don’t mind paying but we do sort of feel like we’re being taken for a ride (and not in the good way).
Just so you know, we’ve always spent around $300-350 every time we’ve been so we usually end up with 5 or 6 LD’s plus drinks and stage tips and have know problems doing it. We just wish we got a better deal as a couple so our LD mileage would go a little farther. If I went by myself I could get a dozen dances plus everything else.
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Clearly, you do mind paying. If the dancers in the club set their own prices, you could try negotiating a lower amount, say 1.5 times instead of 2 times the rate. If you see a dancer regularly, she should be willing to work with you to keep your business.
I've also had some luck with room prices. Usually I'll pay the flat room fee and a modestly inflated rate for the dancer, an extra $50 in the worst case or "just a little tip if you guys have fun" for girls I spent on before. Nowhere near 2x. For the $350 you're talking about or maybe a little more, you could possibly get yourself into a 30 minute room which may give you better value.
My understanding from talking with the dancers is that the club sets the rates. It's normally $25/dance but every time we've been it was 2 for $40 and the house charges a $10 booth fee to the dancers. I would assume that means when we do the 2 for $40 the dancers have to pay the house $20. I wish the Pony had private rooms or even just 15 or 30 minute rates like I hear some other clubs have.
One time, a dancer talked me into a threesome with a friend of hers. (Hey, I'm a sucker for that dancer, for threesomes, and for bed dances. It was the unholy trifecta. I didn't stand a chance.) Anyhow, that friend was just that -- a friend; she didn't work at the club. We had originally planned on three bed set with the three of us -- $100 per set per dancer or (yikes) $600 total in bimbo bed bucks. But the friend didn't work at the club; she couldn't collect on those bimbo bed bucks and the dancer was going to get charged for two guests instead of just the one, which led to the dilemma of if I should hit the ATM and pay her cash on top of the bed bucks for the dancer.
It really wasn't much of a dilemma for my anyway. I laid back on the bed and told them to hash it out; wound up with six sets with the one dancer -- and the next day, some OTC, the first I had with her.
Meet her in the club, find a girl you like. Have her come to your place with the understanding you're just looking to mess around like you do in the club.
At the prices you're paying you should be able to find a dancer willing to do OTC, especially if you're not looking for a BJ or FS.
Our ATF who we're working on getting some OTC action will do everything with us and we've had some decent convos with her. When she found out my wife wanted us to add another woman for both of us she seemed to really be into it. We flat out told her on our 2nd visit with her that we'd love to have more fun OTC with her and she said when we got to know each other better that is very possible. Now, I'm not blinded to the fact that she could just be stringing us along to get more dances but everything we've wanted to do ITC we've done with her. We plan on going a little further this weekend and broaching the OTC question with her again. Damn, I can hardly wait until Saturday. There is also another dancer we noticed last time who we were really into and was all over my wife but we didn't get a dance with her. If she's there Saturday we'll definitely be seeing how far she'll go.
I don't want to get our hopes up but part of me thinks we have a leg up on most everyone else looking for action. Any thoughts? If I'm over thinking things set me straight. I'd rather us go into a situation knowing what to expect than get let down.
We want to sit down and spend time with her some more outside the private dance area but how do we really go about that? Do we do it before or after a dance or does it matter? Do I need to tip her if she sits and talks with us? What is the etiquette on tipping to sit and talk?
Best thing I can suggest is just go. If she sits down with you guys again, offer to buy her a drink and start chatting. If she suggests some dances, go for it but it couldn't hurt to offer her a little extra cash as thanks for the conversation and perhaps to entice her for some more get-acquainted chatting; just try to not make it sound like you're giving her the brush off, okay? : ) Keep it casual and friendly but still a profitable night for her; she's there to make some money, after all.
If you've already brought up the prospect of OTC with her, I'd probably wait until just before any dances. It'll give her something to think about while she's dancing for you two. It could add some extra incentive into the dances, but, on the other hand, it could be a deal-breaker for her, too. No one here knows who she is, so we can't offer any real insight into her; only you and your wife know her; only you and your wife can make that call.
Good luck, man. I hope things work out.
So you can offer her $30 so she is still keeping $20 as she would w/ a regular dance (i.e. that way she would not have to eat the additional room fee for the additional person).
If you pay the dancer directly and then she squares away the room fee w/ the house after she is done w/ the dances; then the club does not know how much you gave her as long as she pays the appropriate room fee.
$30/dance is a fair midpoint where the dancer is still making what she would for a regular dance (instead of zero if you pass on the $40/dance) and you are not paying as high a premium price -