Quoted from Wikipedia
"About one-half of the Asian American population lives in the West, with California having the most total Asian Americans of any state, at 4.2 million"
Shouldn't be that difficult to find one
Ironically even in the SGV (home of COI clubs) with its huge Asian demographics there are very few Asian strippers working there. Same with the OC clubs. Lots of Asian communities there but not many Asian strippers.
motorhead,
Yes California most certainly does have a huge Asian population. But this does not seem to have resulted in any specifically Asian strip clubs.
SF Crazy Horse and New Century seem to have lots of Asians. I am not aware of any SO Cal club which has this.
SC's are not a part of Asian culture. They go for massage parlors, bar hostesses, and now these high grade AAMP incalls escort operations.
Asians are very slow to accept the idea of total nudity in front of a room full of people. They have been able to learn western GFE, but it is some nationalities more than others. Koreans and Vietnamese are still very slow to accept this.
Maybe though there will be something in So Cal to give SociousMob what he is looking for.
SJG
Slick Spic, I know all about Orange County and the Vietnamese, like in the Coffee Shops. We have the same thing here in San Jose. But are there actually Asian dominated SC's, like perhaps California Girls in Santa Ana? I don't know the answer to this.
I have seen sites which list the Asian dancers at SF New Century and Crazy Horse.
I doubt though that too many of them are Vietnamese. Their community is so much stronger than it was decades ago when so many of them worked in store front AMPS.
But their community is not yet big enough to have its outcasts like you will find among other ethnic groups. So there is pressure on their women now not to do these sorts of things.
I also want to mention something else. I have been thinking about these two East Indians you have mentioned. I remember where you said they work. Are they related? Is their something in their background which got them into this. Where I live we have lots and lots of East Indians. But I have never even seen an East Indian Stripper. If they are down for the high heels and makeup and for the fetishistic attraction, then they could be a real trip. Sounds like, based on where they work, that they are down for everything.
SJG
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motor sez: "Shouldn't be that difficult to find one"
Yes, it is. I prefer black and Asian girls, and trust me, it ain't easy to find the Asian ones in the greater LA area. I'm certainly not an expert whatsoever on the downtown LA clubs, but I've been to many of the clubs in the surrounding area, and AFAIK, there ain't any predominantly Asian clubs. You might find 1 or 2 if you're luck in a given shift, but don't count on it.
Actually, the percentage of Asians in the population around LA is surprisingly small, except for some Asian centers like Garden Grove in Orange County and that area. But even in Orange County the number of Asians in quite small. It's certainly less than the percentage of Hispanics, and there are TONS of Hispanic girls in the clubs.
But for whatever reason, Asian girls are fairly rare. Aside from the low population numbers, my personal belief is there is a fairly strong negative cultural stigma attached to strippers in the middle class Asian population. Also, the culture has a very strong emphasis on hard work and achievement.
Doesn't mean it doesn't exist (witness the Asian massage parlors), but I think that is a specific group of SE Asians and not the general population.
But I could be wrong about that.
Asian dancers would not come from the community more often than not; they're too busy getting advanced degrees. They would likely be illegals, and dancing in clubs seems to be more problematic than working is massage parlors or escort services for some reason. There's plenty of Asian prostitutes around here, but besides my ATF I've only seen a handful of Asian dancers over the years.
Strip clubs are an American invention. It's the music. It's also our constitutional protections on free speech and due process, combined with our prohibition on prostitution. So they can't just close a strip club just because people are outraged by it, not unless an actual constitutionally tested law is being violated.
So we started with Larry Flynt's places in Ohio, and places like the Brass Rail here in Sunnyvale. The girls dance and serve drinks and the house gets most of it's money out of the bar. There is no touching. Some people may not like it, but there is nothing the law can do about it.
Then we have the Pink Poodle in San Jose, no touching and no alcohol, but with full nudity. Before they added the private dance area it was very hard to even talk to the girls. They wanted to play it safe. The stage is very high. Some people may not like this kind of a place, but there is nothing the law can do about it.
In most other countries it is the other way around. A strip club would be more of an outrage and more likely to get closed, than would a brothel. They can close a place with no legal basis. But they will probably overlook a brothel just because people accept it as a practical necessity.
Blacks and Latinas have adapted to strip clubs, but with the Asians this is still a rarity.
SJG
Bill Maher says that whenever one of his buddies gets married, pretty soon they aren't allowed to come out and play with him anymore.
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steve229,
As you can see, my interest in strippers is more in flirting with them, sometimes talking dirty with them, and just in general getting under their skin, before anything goes beyond this. Their on the job personas work to a point, but only to a point. So the idea is to take them into realms where they are forced to just be themselves and to get real with you.
I would want to do this before ever getting into any talk with them about "mileage", and before getting into more than modest money.
So my issue about the lesbian strippers is that they are not what they appear to be. Yes, their job description only goes so far. But they are still being presented as ordinary girls who are doing that job, not as titanium skinned fembots.
With the married girls they are always straight up about that. That is important to them. The ones with children are very upfront about that too, and that is totally fine with me.
The lesbians are engaging in a charade. Fortunately they are pretty easy to figure out. You don't have to push them very far before they close up and bail out.
We talked before about lesbian customers. Actually it is all women customers because when the strippers interact with them they are catering to what lesbian tendencies they may have. There are some practical benefits to these women customers. The strippers are always kissing them.
I plan to write an article about what happened to me 25 years ago on a happen stance visit to an S.F. club where the dancer was open tongue kissing another dancer.
If they are kissing the women, that should make it that much easier to get them to kiss us.
The reason they are often more willing to kiss women is that they know it will not go any further. If they start DFKing with a man, he is going to want FS. And I don't mean FS offered as some higher level of "extra", girl on top only. No, I mean FS where the girl completely surrenders and lets the guy really give it to her. If she is DFKing with the guy, she is going to be wanting that at least as much as he does.
So the objective should be to get them engaged in full heavy petting in the main room, and for modest lap sitting tips, before going into any LD booths or VIP Rooms.
RedBook GFE = DFK + DATY + BBBJ + MSOG
This is not a maximum, it is a baseline minimum.
SJG
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PS:
Remember, the RB GFE standard was developed for escort services, including the Asian AAMP approach to this. With an escort service, the two people have never met. There is no opportunity for non-committal fraternizing.
When there is this chance for non-committal fraternizing and talk, then it should be just that much easier to then deliver on RedBook GFE. It should be easier then to provide this in a strip club environment, than it would be to provide it with the internet, pictures, and telephone appointments.
For an aging RA ( Relaxation Assistant ) to start a GFE session with the greeting at the front door, can be real hard. She doesn't know if the guy will go for her. The tension level is always high. Likewise she has no way of knowing whether or not it is really going to work for them in bed. I mean, will it be a bilateral experience, instead of just thrashing. It has to be this way if they are going to have any chance of delivering on MSOG.
But when the two have the chance to meet face to face and flirt and talk dirty some, and then even to go beyond this to making out in the main room, then it will be as natural and easy as it ever could be to continue it in the VIP Room.
SJG
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"The reason they are often more willing to kiss women is that they know it will not go any further"
What delusional fucked up little world do you live in?
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