A man's detailed account of his wife's refusal to grant him the “pleasure of marital relations†has gone viral, thanks to his annoyed spouse's plaintive plea to the denizens of Reddit.
I wrote about the “Conjugal Sexcel Spreadsheet†earlier this week at Washington Free Beacon, and I have been astounded at the private messages I've received from men about this story.
This is why marriage and sex really shouldn't be connected. Lots of women make great wives/mothers. They run the house, take care of the day to day details of raising the kids (assuming the husband works a full day outside the home), handle the relatives on both sides of the family...countless other tasks.
But it's seems all too common that after the children are born, they lose interest in sex. That's fair...I've lost interest in TV shows I used to never miss. Is a man who still has a sex drive supposed to give up all the benefits his wife contributes to the household just to have sex, or is he supposed to give up sex?
The obvious compromise is he finds sex elsewhere. SC's are but one avenue. Yet 9 out of 10 women would consider this cheating and want a divorce if she found him having outside sex. It's easy for the woman as she gets the house and his money.
Europeans are so much more enlightened. They understand that older men have women on the side, but this doesn't threaten the marriage because them men don't want a divorce. They just want to get laid!
Actually she sounds pretty unfuckable. Too much to eat? too much to drink? laying around watching T.V.? I don't care if she goes to the gym (probably a lie) she sounds like a cow. A sweaty cow. No shower before bed? Gross....I'd give up and move on.
I have practiced divorce law for almost 32 years and I feel very bad....for the wife..not the loser with a spreadsheet. My guess is the Husband is a slob; built like a hamster; lousy in bed and has hygiene problems. Women love sex and want it more and are better at it as they age. Men are the opposite. 99% of the time there is a sexless marriage its the man's fault. To be fair nothing is funnier to me than some 320 pound guy with his gut sagging over his belt bitching that his wife is now a size 10. I am about as average as a human being can be, but I put in an effort to maintain a healthy weight, a narrow waist and to romance my wife. Probably why the last 3 bj's from her have been better than any others in the last 25 years.
Any pics of what either of them look like?
"Women love sex and want it more and are better at it as they age"
Great theory. Only problem with it is that it's contradicted by the experience of every man over 50 on the entire planet, except of course skibum the stud who really understands women. Complete bullshit.
I kept a mental spreadsheet of my wife's frigidity for a while, but then I started devoting my attention to strippers instead --a much more rewarding activity.
"I have practiced divorce law for almost 32 years and I feel very bad....for the wife..not the loser with a spreadsheet."
You, sir, are a fucking asshole. I don't usually just say shit like that to anyone, but you are a perfect example of an asshole.
Absolutely true that it's a 2 way street. There are men who are the cause for a sexless marriage. But to say it's 99% is absolute bullshit. Clearly you have been listening to whining women complain about their husbands for those 32 years and are actually starting to believe their shit.
"Women love sex and want it more and are better at it as they age. Men are the opposite."
Are you fucking serious? Do you hear yourself?
The total immensity of the bullshit you are spewing is so massive that I can't even begin to list everything. From the insane injustice of the judicial system towards men where divorce is involved, to the total disregard of many/most women's drastic changes in attitudes and personal habits once they've got their hooks in to a man, and on and on.
Have you ever visited other countries? Ever? How about really poor countries where people barely have enough to live. You should try it, because that's the only place you'll see women who maintain their figures after marriage, only cuz they can't afford food. But women in wealthy nations, especially the US, become fat slobs as soon as they have a man. I live in SE Asia for a while, and when I returned to the US I was AMAZED at how fucking fat 90% of the women are. It's disgusting.
Dude, I could go on for days at how fucked up your beliefs are. But I won't. Geezus.
And for Mr Spic, here are some references (from the CDC):
"Among women, the prevalence of obesity did not differ between those aged 40-59 and 60 and over (39.5% compared with 38.1%). The prevalence of obesity among younger women was lower than among either middle-aged or older women."
Dude, the CDC says that 40 fucking percent, almost half of all women over 40 are obese. Do you know what that means? Women, after they are married, let their bodies go and become fat pigs.
Ever wondered why there are so many strip clubs and prostitutes for men, but not for women? You still believe your shit about women wanting sex but not men? Geezus, just insane.
"Women, after they are married, let their bodies go and become fat pigs."
What do men do?
"What do men do?"
Hey Jester !!! How's it going??
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@skibum609
That's my response every time I hear about a woman "losing interest in sex." Yeah, sure. If the husband is a wimpy little doormat begging for sex, who wouldn't lose interest? Get in shape, get your confidence back, start flirting a little with other women in front of her (might not even be necessary) and she'll suddenly become "interested" again.
Same goes the other way. If a woman doesn't want her man cheating or divorcing her, she should stay in good shape and keep him satisfied, whatever that might mean to him.
It was rhetorical, but I think you knew that you're not that stupid.
People, men and women, get fat as pigs after they get married. At least until they get old (60-65) then more men tend to slim down.
"People, men and women, get fat as pigs after they get married."
Exactly. And the point the divorce lawyer was making is that sexless marriage is 99% the fault of the husband. Which is absolutely irrational when statistics say that almost 50% of women get fat after marriage. And we all know that men are more sexually stimulated by looks than women are (since we're so freaking shallow...), so fat women are less attractive to men than fat men are to women.
So it seems clear that sexless marriages are LIKELY more due to womens' behavior than mens' behavior.
And by the way, whenever someone quotes this ridiculous notion that "women want sex as much or more than men", it makes me want to puke.
What women want is very specific types of sex, while men just want sex. Women want sex with the right guy, in the right setting, with the right amount of romance, etc...
Men don't need all that. They'll go out, fuck a hooker, come home, and be satisfied. They require very little of a woman in order to satisfy their sexual needs.
Women, however, require much more to be satisfied. And we can all come up with a long list of what those requirements are...
Jesus - quibbling over which sex gets fatter and whose more to blame? Call it 50-50. Both sides contribute their fair share of dysfunctionality to marriage.
And while I'm on a roll...
The interesting part of that spreadsheet is that it highlights in graphic detail how difficult it is to meet a woman's requirements. She can't be tired, or feel a little off that day, or be worrying about something, blah blah blah blah....yeah, some of those are just excuses, but there's also a part of it where a wife has obligations to satisfy her partner's needs, and at some point she should be a wife and snap out of it and care for him.
But she'll bitch and moan, and blame the husband who just wants to get his rocks off. That is when you realize you are dealing with a selfish bitch. And that's when the husband says, "okay fine, I'll be back later" and he heads to a strip club. Right guys? And then the wife complains when she finds out he's seeing other women??
Mr. Divorce Lawyer, that's the way it really is.
So men and women both get fat. But because women get fat sexless marriages are their fault? Don't get me wrong Skibum's assertions are preposterous but only slightly more so than yours. If a couple aren't having sex on a regular basis it's probably both of them, unless you're talking about biological issues.
As far as women wanting it just as much as men, yeah I think that's accurate. Men just get off so much easier. In my experience if she's enjoying the sex as much as I am, she's just as eager as am.
"If a couple aren't having sex on a regular basis it's probably both of them"
And that's your problem jester. You make these one-liner personal opinions based upon absolutely nothing, while I cite statistics and rational reasoning, and you expect anyone to take you seriously?
And what's worse you apparently don't even read and/or understand all that I wrote, and you come back with stuff that I clearly just got done refuting.
Come on, dude. Or dudette, whatever you are. Use your head.
Are you for real? One liner personal opinions based on nothing? So basically everything you say? Just because you type something doesn't mean it's accurate or even remotely "rational".
You cited ONE statistic. After first saying you thought 90% of women in this country are fat and then later "almost 50%".
Do you read what you write before you click post?
jester, seriously, how old are you?
Being fat has nothing to do with this issue. That was just an irrelevant topic interjected by the all knowing, all seeing divorce lawyer with almost 32 years of experience.
The issue is the undeniable fact, known by all but said divorce lawyer, that women, especially older women, have far less interest in sex than men. I could waste time gathering research to prove this point, but that would be like citing evidence to prove that the earth is round.
Can husbands do something to increase interest of their older wives in sex? Of course they can. They can become completely pussy whipped, humiliate themselves, accept her disrespect, and focus their lives upon catering to her ever-changing whims. By doing so, instead of denying sex 99 out of 100 times, she might only deny him 96 times. 95 in a really great month.
Why would someone go to such effort, especially when he can simply pay strippers for sex. The strippers are easy, they are sexually uninhibited, and many of them are a lot of fun. Find the right one and pay her the right amount, and she never says no.
"Being fat has nothing to do with this issue."
Well, I see your point, but IMO getting fat is a symptom of an overall disrespect for their husbands. And to the point at hand, it's just one more way women are denying their husbands the basic sexual needs they have. Which, since we are so shallow and so interested in looks, includes taking care of themselves and being attractive, and giving sex to keep the husband satisfied.
Amazing!
Deogol, now that is a great post. I'm glad you found it and shared it with us. Maybe this spreadsheet thing will go viral and more husbands in sexless relationships will be able to fuck again.