Attempts to win a dancer's heart

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Clackport
Washington
My friend who is also a strip club junkie has known this one stripper for over 2 years, and he says they have gotten close. I'm guessing she is one of his favorites. Anyways he says there is "mutual attraction" and they are around the same age (mid 20's). He says this stripper is different from all the rest, I used to think there were a couple of strippers that were different from the rest, but I've come to realize Dougster and Jackslash's advice was spot on when they said all strippers are the same. I told him that this stripper is probably not different from the rest, but he's not listening to me.

Anyways he wants to date this stripper, but the problem is this stripper is currently in a 8 year relationship with her boyfriend. The boyfriend is a typical stripper boyfriend, meaning he doesn't have a job, does some drug dealing on the side, and the stripper supports herself and him. My friend is so enamored with her that he's still gonna try to win her heart.

He is planning to tell her he will treat her a lot better than her boyfriend, he will treat like her a queen, she deserves better, he is in love with her, blah blah blah. He thinks he has a chance to win her heart.

I think this will end bad for him because he doesn't realize he's not dealing with a normal girl, he's dealing with a stripper. I have tried talking him out of it, but he's determined to do it. I think he's gonna end up with a broken heart.

Have any of you tried or know anyone that tried to win a dancer's heart knowing that dancer was in a relationship? Did it ever work?

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Caprisun69
11 years ago
Your the expert mr genius!! I would recommend he speak with our clinical physician on site doctor Phil!
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Essdub
11 years ago
I think you're correct about what the outcome will be. Telling her how he feels may actually be a good thing though. It's probably the only way he'll be able to see things the way they really are and about the only choice he will have is to get over her.
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Essdub
11 years ago
Strip clubs are ok for old guys with money to burn, but they're kind of a shitty place to spend your prime years. Take him out and meet some real girls after he does what he has to do, it'll be good for both of you.
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toysales
11 years ago
I also thought I found one that was different. Been living with her for about 6 months. Might be a little different but not by much.
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Clackport
11 years ago
@essdub- good advice
@cflock- I can understand what he's thinking, I went down that path in my earlier days. He will have to learn by trying and probably failing.
@toysales- I hope it works out with you and her
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Caprisun69
11 years ago
^^luckily U never failed...right?!?! Just think about it
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tumblingdice
11 years ago
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think it was Dougster who said "All strippers are lying,thieving whores",and he was right.I am now trying to talk the ex gf into meeting for P4P only,its easier that way.

Secondly,a while back I think it was Hard4Dancers who outed you on your facebook page Randy Anukam and your reply was"Thats not me but I know the guy".My question to you is why would you use another dudes name for your TUSCL user name?Oh wait,I just looked at your FB page,I think I know why.
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alabegonz
11 years ago
Yeah, I know one who is in the same boat as your friend. Though he is not too obsessed by the thought of confessing what is inside.

Personally, I have no opinion how your friend will come out of this one. I only hope he will get out clean holding her hand.

In my experience, confessing never turned out good. To be honest, my ex-CF doesn't even know my last name, she barely knows me. On the other hand, she already confessed everything to me, yet I am sure most of it are just plain BS.

Anyway, if she has interest in your friend, she will show that interest through flirtation. But the best--for me--is to come on as a total stranger who simply wants to connect (f*ck), I guess some ladies are turned on with that; sleeping with a stranger. The less you know the better the sex. Porn stars have no idea who they will be on the set with until the last minute before the filming starts. I guess some strippers are like that.
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alabegonz
11 years ago
"... has known this one stripper for over 2 years, and he says they have gotten close. I'm guessing she is one of his favorites."

That's friendzone.

Customer frame already established, hence he is now permanent in that state.

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Dougster
11 years ago
@dice: actually a misrepresentation of what I said. I said they are all whores and that although not all the adjectives "stupid, lying, and thieving" apply to each one of them, describing them as "stupid, lying, thieving whores" is a good description of the group since the exceptions are rate.

Now I will note that in recent years the move toward whoring is so strong that many don't bother with the lying and thieving so much since whoring just seems the quicker way to money. Also I think customers have realized what they are so just quickly move onto those who white quickly versus the long con.

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Dougster
11 years ago
White -> whore in that last sentence

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Dougster
11 years ago
Attempts to win dancers' non-existent hearts. Good luck with that one!
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Clackport
11 years ago
@Dougster- You had me ROFL with the dancers' non existent hearts.
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ilbbaicnl
11 years ago
If somebody's good looking, but stays in a relationship where they get treated like shit, they are mentally ill.

If a hot woman complains that McDonald's doesn't have onion rings, you can take her to Burger King. But it's not that simply when she has a shitty boyfriend. She knows there are other guys who would not be so shitty, she just doesn't have any attraction to or real respect for them.
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jackslash
11 years ago
I won my ATF away from her long time boyfriend. This was not a good victory. Before she was cheating on her boyfriend with me. Later she was cheating on me with a bunch of guys. When you win a lying, cheating whore, you get a lying, cheating whore.
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stenton1
11 years ago
@Duke; your story could be considered a success by stripper standards, yet exceedingly rare. I would bet that 98% of the stripper relationship tales crash and burn very quickly, leaving you with a light wallet and a lesson learned.
As others have said, these women many times are master manipulators with skills exceeding most men with huge player skills.
I had a few stripper relationships, that ultimately end up in the trash heap. I think if you're going to attempt this, go in with both eyes WIDE open, get what you want and get out. Many of you are right! These strippers have no heart, and are using their skills to con customers in any way possible.
I have found that if a stripper is really into you, she will make that known to you right away, but still get what you want and move on. When strippers think they have your heart, you're in for a whirlwind of lies and entertaining stories to tell your friends.
My advice? Outplay them at your own game. I know many civilian women have issues, but giving your heart to a stripper is basically signing your own death warrant. Keep it light, and just have fun! Anything else? There are a million women out there if you want a relationship. Otherwise, play to win, never to lose.
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Clackport
11 years ago
@tumblingdildo- a better question would be why would I use my real name as my TUSCL username?
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Caprisun69
11 years ago
^^^u got too ask yourself that question?!?! Even though u r one if the biggest liars in this forum I still love u. Yes I used the "l" word on this website lol
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zipman68
11 years ago
@ilbbaicnl -- true dat. Truth be known, anybody who stays in a relationship where they are treated poorly needs to get out.
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Caprisun69
11 years ago
^^➕1⃣
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alabegonz
11 years ago
@Duke: Wow, she drew the line on you and maintained that for three years, then on the fourth year she crossed that line and had sex with you. That to me sounds like WOW, bro. How did you made her cross that line?

I'm saying that because she told me stories of many countless men who wanted to get into her pants. All she did was rank them according to how much they can produce and drew a line so they would not cross that line.

I couldn't believe to what I was hearing and said

"For sure you drew the line on me to, because I could get into your ass".

"Haha, you will never get into my ass. That's the line you never cross."
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ilbbaicnl
11 years ago
@zip if you stay with someone who's an asshole much hotter than you are and are having great sex, that can be a reasonable, rational choice for some people.
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Papi_Chulo
11 years ago
Experience is a great teacher and sometimes it is the only way some of us learn.

You can break it down to your friend and tell him he can expect x, y, and z – this will not convince him but he “may” see the warning signs early on if someone has already given him a heads-up.

Perhaps you should tell him to join the TUSCL discussion board for a while so he can get “educated” in the game.

The fact the stripper has a loser bf that she supports already speaks volumes as to whom your friend is potentially getting involved with – and it’s not good.

What I fear for him is not that his affections will not be reciprocated; but that this chick will use him financially and emotionally – the best thing that can happen to him is for her not to want to hook up w/ him.
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