OT: Which States make up the 'Midwest"

joker44
In the wind
From 538.com

"Indiana, Iowa and Illinois appear to be the core of the Midwest, each pulling more than 70 percent of the vote (that may partly be because of their substantial populations). Michigan, Wisconsin and Minnesota each pulled at least 60 percent of the vote, so we can probably put them in the Midwest without too much fuss. Ohio, Missouri and Kansas each got more than half.

As for the rest of the states, it seems unclear whether they're in the true Midwest.

If anything, the Midwest is as nebulous as I'd expected. Too often, people refer to vast swaths of American territory as a solid region. It's easy to break Americans into tribes such as “Midwestern,” but there are more subdivisions and diversity in these groupings than we generally acknowledge."

See entire article here with graphic map:

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/what-…

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Dougster
11 years ago
*fart*
rockstar666
11 years ago
If they currently have a Big 10 school, it's Midwest. Except for PA and the new teams next season.
SlickSpic
11 years ago
Lots of people confuse the Midwest and the Central Plains. Different regions. The Midwest is west of the Mississippi.
jackslash
11 years ago
SS, you're wrong! The midwest includes states on both side of the Mississippi. Some people think states like Ohio and Michigan are not very western. But at one time they were. Go back to 1820 and you'll see that some states east of the Mississippi were some of the most western states at the time.
AnonymousJim
11 years ago
Wisconsin is not west of the Mississippi. But I think it's very much in the Midwest.

Ask what region most Wisconsinites, Minnesotans, Illini and Indianans believe they're in and most will say the Midwest. I'll throw in Missouri, as it seems fair to consider Kansas City and St. Louis to be Midwestern. With Minnesota and Missouri in the Midwest, I'll begrudgingly include Iowa as well.

Throw in Michigan and Ohio, too.

West of that pack, Great Plains & Mountains. East, you're in the east. South, you're in the South.
MrDeuce
11 years ago
The unambiguous core of the Midwest is the states formed from the Northwest Territory: Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Michigan, and Wisconsin. Minnesota and Iowa are also clearly Midwestern.

After that it gets dicey: Are North and South Dakota, Nebraska, and Kansas in the Midwest or the Great Plains? It depends on how many regions you want to divide the U.S. into. If there is a Great Plains region, then these states are in it; otherwise they're Midwestern.

The other unclear case is Missouri, which has aspects of the Midwest and the South (and, for that matter, the Great Plains). It was a border state in the Civil War, with its population evenly divided between Union and Confederate sympathizers, and its status is uncertain to this day. Personally I would put Missouri in the Midwest, but many people in the southern part of the state identify more with the South.

While we're at it, I would suggest that Texas is simultaneously a Southern, Western, and Great Plains state and that those three regions come together around Dallas-Fort Worth. If this sort of thing interests you, read _The Nine Nations of North America_ (1981) by Joel Garreau, a somewhat dated but still fascinating study of the regions that the U.S. and Canada, both overly vast, could more naturally be divided into.
gatorfan
11 years ago
Try the Mid East
mmdv26
11 years ago
The distinction lies in the Strip Club laws that prevail. Missouri is now part of a martian colony, while Illinois is spit into upper half (bad for SC), and lower half (better for SC). ESL is an island of prostitution.

BTW, for what it's worth, was in Tampa for the first time in 15 years week before last. Made a point of stopping by Mons Venus, and was rocked by a 21yo spinner writhing stark naked in my lap. OMG!!
SlickSpic
11 years ago
Jack, it's 2014, not 1820. If it was, we'd be speaking Spanish in California. Wait a minute...
DandyDan
11 years ago
Being a Nebraska resident, I feel Midwestern and my relatives in South Dakota do, too. But the western half of Nebraska and the Dakotas seems like a world apart to me. I have still never been in the western half of Nebraska (assuming I have it figured out where the so-called center of Nebraska is).
jackslash
11 years ago
Slick, they speak Spanish out west?

I think my point was unclear. I meant that the term "Midwest" originated in the early 1800's before we had admitted all the western states to the union. "Midwest" does not seem appropriate for Ohio or Michigan today, but it did at one time.
SlickSpic
11 years ago
I remember when the Cumberland Gap was the western frontier. Now the Cumberland Gap is what I call my CF's pussy.
Hard4Dancers
11 years ago
Any state bordering Michigan.
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