What has been everyone's experience on getting dancers to meet OTC? How do you approach, did it cost more than if you were in the VIP? Were you able to make it a regular thing? About what percent would do that?
Depends on the girl, in my limited experience. If she escorts on the side she'll be very business like; all you have to do is ask if she does OTC. You pay her normal rate which for a reasonably hot dancer would be $200 for an hour in my area. Girls who get $400+ an hour as regular escorts are not usually, if ever, dancing in a club.
If she doesn't do OTC as a regular sideline, it could be anything from the cost of a dinner and the room, to so much money that she prices herself out of the market on purpose. Again, if you ask if she does OTC she'll either be a pro with her answer, politely say no, or if she's a rookie, get pissed off that you consider her "a whore".
The worst is when they beat around the bush, like she won't do OTC unless you offer enough money. Offer $200 but those types are to be avoided IMHO. They are too flaky.
Of course, if she already knows you, it can get a little tricky if she doesn't want to fuck you but not lose you as a customer!
I recommend that your goal be that OTC cost less per minute than ITC, and better yet, less absolutely. In my area, this isn't always the case -- the girls at high-end extras clubs are making so much money that it's not always worth the risk for them to see guys OTC, so they quote way high, unless you work the system right.
Obviously, different guys can get quoted way different prices from the same girl. My approach is always to see a girl a few times, if not outright become her regular, before I ask about OTC. As a result, the prices I get quoted are often FAR lower than the guys who just ask the first time they meet a girl. In one particular case, a girl at a high-end extras club who I was a regular of, who regularly quoted most of her customers $600-$1000, quoted me $200. Not because I'm handsome or have a big dick (although being a tuscl contributor automatically means I have both!), but because I was a regular of hers and she liked and wanted to keep me as a customer -- at least, that's what I think it was. All I know is, guys were getting quotes from her that were 5x higher than what I got.
Of course, if you don't have the patience to go the regular route first, then you gotta do what you gotta do
At the extras clubs where I go fairly regularly, there are no VIP areas, so whatever ITC you do is in the LD area, with the cut to the house being by the song or with a timer; so you are under time pressure to get it done as quickly as possible, But since you are taking up less of the girl's time, you may tip her less than for an OTC session.
In an OTC session if you can find a cheap motel room or even free at her place, the cost comes out about the same -- no tip parade, no drinks to buy, no cover charge, no cut to the club. And you have the luxury of an almost GFE.
In my experience most girls who will do FS ITC are open to OTC, and it is almost always a better experience.
I've met about 5 or 6 dancers OTC and I've gotten to know each as a regular customer first. A couple have told me they won't meet a "stranger" OTC for safety reasons. While there's no guarantees with regulars, the likelyhood is far less with a guy they've met several times and fooled around with in VIP.
My ATF has tried escorting twice and had bad experiences both times, giving the money back and leaving. One guy had open sores on his dick and the other one insisted on bareback and she wouldn't do it.
In my experience, they either don't do OTC, or the say they do, but are total flakes, or they are professionals and not only do OTC, but treat it like running a business that is customer satisfaction oriented and are not only reliable, but consistent, and priced fairly.
You really want to find the latter type of lady. The first two aren't worth it. They'll usually drop hints as you buy dances from them and once you ask, they tend to be very professional and direct about it just like they would be if they were conducting any other type of business transaction. To break in, it helps if they know you have enough cash to even do such a thing. Usually, once they know you have enough cash to do such a thing, they'd rather meet you outside the club and have you just pay them directly instead of go through splitting the cash with the club. They might have trepidation if you're a local, so it also helps if you're an out of towner and already have a hotel room that you're staying at.
For my own experience, I've had dancers that I met for the first time that day totally tap it when they got off shift, I've had dancers that I didn't tap until I'd known them for several months and I mentioned it in passing and they pursued, though in those instances they were more interested in having a relationship with me and saw it as an in, and I've had dancers hint and talk about it but otherwise be total flakes, as well as dancers that either just don't do it or are so selective that they won't with me. As is always the case, YMMV.
yeah i've had a couple meet me OTC. the first was smoking hot and young and you could tell hadn't done it much. i met her at a bar - we had a few drinks and went to a hotel and brought some booze with us. we spent 4 hours there for one flat fee of $400. super good deal. when we parted ways she said "you'll probably never come back to the club again right" and i did and i got a few dances from her and tipped her but the deal was so much better OTC that she was kinda right about the club thing. we met a few more times OTC but then i wanted more -- i really liked her and wanted to take her away for a weekend but she wouldn't go for it. fun while it lasted.
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The answer is 10%, 35%, or 100%, depending on which TUSCLer you ask
If she doesn't do OTC as a regular sideline, it could be anything from the cost of a dinner and the room, to so much money that she prices herself out of the market on purpose. Again, if you ask if she does OTC she'll either be a pro with her answer, politely say no, or if she's a rookie, get pissed off that you consider her "a whore".
The worst is when they beat around the bush, like she won't do OTC unless you offer enough money. Offer $200 but those types are to be avoided IMHO. They are too flaky.
Of course, if she already knows you, it can get a little tricky if she doesn't want to fuck you but not lose you as a customer!
Obviously, different guys can get quoted way different prices from the same girl. My approach is always to see a girl a few times, if not outright become her regular, before I ask about OTC. As a result, the prices I get quoted are often FAR lower than the guys who just ask the first time they meet a girl. In one particular case, a girl at a high-end extras club who I was a regular of, who regularly quoted most of her customers $600-$1000, quoted me $200. Not because I'm handsome or have a big dick (although being a tuscl contributor automatically means I have both!), but because I was a regular of hers and she liked and wanted to keep me as a customer -- at least, that's what I think it was. All I know is, guys were getting quotes from her that were 5x higher than what I got.
Of course, if you don't have the patience to go the regular route first, then you gotta do what you gotta do
In an OTC session if you can find a cheap motel room or even free at her place, the cost comes out about the same -- no tip parade, no drinks to buy, no cover charge, no cut to the club. And you have the luxury of an almost GFE.
In my experience most girls who will do FS ITC are open to OTC, and it is almost always a better experience.
My ATF has tried escorting twice and had bad experiences both times, giving the money back and leaving. One guy had open sores on his dick and the other one insisted on bareback and she wouldn't do it.
You really want to find the latter type of lady. The first two aren't worth it. They'll usually drop hints as you buy dances from them and once you ask, they tend to be very professional and direct about it just like they would be if they were conducting any other type of business transaction. To break in, it helps if they know you have enough cash to even do such a thing. Usually, once they know you have enough cash to do such a thing, they'd rather meet you outside the club and have you just pay them directly instead of go through splitting the cash with the club. They might have trepidation if you're a local, so it also helps if you're an out of towner and already have a hotel room that you're staying at.
For my own experience, I've had dancers that I met for the first time that day totally tap it when they got off shift, I've had dancers that I didn't tap until I'd known them for several months and I mentioned it in passing and they pursued, though in those instances they were more interested in having a relationship with me and saw it as an in, and I've had dancers hint and talk about it but otherwise be total flakes, as well as dancers that either just don't do it or are so selective that they won't with me. As is always the case, YMMV.