It's not of much interest to me. If you read that site, you'd think there are a heck of alot of celibate strippers. They bitch about other strippers providing extras and how it makes it harder for them to make money. There's also alot of braggarts on there saying they make a couple grand per night.
Every now and then I like to read the hustle hut section to try and spot some of the more egregious plays, especially when I know I've been had as a sucker at a club in recent memory. Kind of like inoculation.
NOT that I'm against girls making money at the club, I just want to hold the line that I'm getting what I want out of the transaction.
I went there years ago out of curiousity. I saw all the posting rules and never went back. If a dancer ripped me off, I can post and rant about it here all I want. This site is beer friendly when it comes to posting online. I stay away from whatever juice smokes. Just kidding. I don't know how to smoke a cucumber. :)
I know one stripper who is a college graduate and who has been dancing for more than 10 years. She is the hardest working stripper I've ever seen, almost always on the floor, working the crowd. She offers no extras and yet is a consistent high earner. She lives modestly, drives a beater, and claims to have a quarter of a million saved. Doesn't make her wealthy, but is light years of the other dancers.
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And if there are strippers that are "wealthy", they probably got that wealth through other means (providing extras, using drugs as VIP selling points/selling drugs to customers, etc.)
"and claims to have a quarter of a million saved. Doesn't make her wealthy, but is light years of the other dancers"
CLAIMS is the KEY word here. Have you actually seen her REAL account info? I'll bet not! Hope you don't believe this claim.
"They all hate men"
I guess turnabout is Fair Play. There are a hell of a lot of members here who thru their comments express dislike or even hatred of dancers &/or women.
The sex industry is a breeding ground for misandry and misogyny. "Does anyone know any wealthy dancers?" I doubt that's so much a valid question as much as it is someone trying to reassure themselves that the women he pays for sex are lesser beings (which is why I assume he's always stressing how little he pays them). I know wealthy retired dancers who didn't make their fortune from sucking dick and wealthy escorts that did. Who cares?
Even Alucard's comment up there has a tone of contempt for the dancer Gawker was talking about, as if it's completely ludicrous that someone would have managed to save up a quarter of a million in a 10 year period. The general opinion of strippers is that we're all drug-addicted whores (and there are some, yes) just as the general opinion of strip club patrons is that they're all pathetic losers.
It's really a shame that sexuality is still so taboo there's so much emphasis placed on it in regards to your worth as a person. God forbid anyone realize that we're all just people that like getting it on with other people.
I have learned:
*All SW strippers are "clean" dancers who allow minimal touching
*The clean dancers struggle because there are whores in their clubs offering extras, much to the dismay of the clean girls
*Nevertheless, the clean dancers claim to earn $400-600 per average nite
*You can not believe much of what you read on SW
@Che - Yeah, but there's only so much finger wagging you can do. As a dancer, you make a lot of money, but starting from the bottom in regards to what to do with it is tough (which is why SW can be useful). I blew through 20k before I was like "Uh...maybe I should be smarter about this."
I went over there and bookmarked it. There can be some insights as to how strippers operate. I saw a lot of them talking about selling VIP half hour for $300. Sort of like stepping off planet. I have done them in VIP at Houston extras clubs for as little as $100 and mo more than $200 and this is FS.
I do like reading their club reviews from the dancers perspective.
^ Is that on top of the room cost that they split with the club or are they just such downtrodden individuals that they don't mind you lowballing them?
duomaswell - The 100 - 200 I have paid for pussy itc is not on top of any cost I paid for VIP bc as a VIP memeber entry to VIP, CR is free (normaly $120). I am lifetime VIP at a Houston area extras club. I have bought them off the floor for $20 to avoid the session in the upstairs VIP or CR being interrupted by announcements its time for them to dance.
Normally the price for FS there is 200-300 with 200 being the norm. I have had two different girls at 100 which (one I have been seeing otc for 4.5 yr who no longer dances there average at motel $133). The other girl was one I had done itc at 200 on around seven occasions and that day she offered it to me at 100. A 21 yo girl I did for 200 a coupla months ago I did recently in CR for 150.
As far as these girls lowballing themselves I strongly disagree. Backpage call girls in Houston are constantly offering 80 dollar specials. I have had several women off Seeking Arrangement in the 100-150 range, one for as little as 60, another for zero. A friend who is not VIP at the club has had girls from the club over to his house for FS at 150. A stripper at the club I have been seeing for awhile offered me 200 motel / 100 CR when she danced there. Once a man sees one on a regular basis pop comes down. While I have paid as much as 300 to do one in the club this was very infrequent and I no longer do this. I would say a man can have a tip level girl in the club (blonde Cali girl x cheerleader, super good looking) for around $200 which is the market price for a high level professional escort in Houston - one hour session.
As a coin dealer I buy low and sell high. A coin can have a market (retail) price of 200 and I can get it wholesale from walkup traffic to my table for 100-150 or for basically the same amount at auction. I use the same strategy when negotiation pop with girls. I have had girls initially offer me 200 for FS in VIP and not just jumping on that the price comes down to 150.
Another thing - Any itc fuck can be a crapshoot for the customer in terms of the quality of performance / GFE. A ten to fifteen minute quickie in VIP is not worth more than 100-150 (if that much) in my opinion contrasted against a 200 1 hour motel session from a quality provider.
No, I am not gonna spend 300 on dances when I have three girls currently on roster (2 at motel, 1 incall) at 100-140. One is x stripper I have been seeing going on 5 yr. I have had a number of strippers as mistresses and am a very experienced hobbyist.
I have been approached in the club by professional high quality escorts who offer one hour motel sessions at 200 and will say "I dance to recruit clients."
There's a few gals I know in town who I'm sure saved up at least $250k from money they made stripping. Stilleto is one of them, and I'd be surprised if she had saved up anything less than $500k.
Payer11: "high quality escorts who offer one hour motel sessions at 200"
Just have a look through Payer11's photo gallery and you'll realize that his definition of "high quality" could be somewhat "laxer" than the rest of us here. :-)
I would never pay only 150-200 for fs. not knocking you for doing it but damn thats crack hoe prices. I guess it depends on where you live, but I wont pay under 600 for itc, because of vip charges. Also If I go, its going to be an hour not a rushed 30 minute session.
Good on you for finding fs that cheap but damn man. I wonder what kind of girls some of you are sticking your dicks in.. Wrap it up man, at that price in order to make a living she needs.to be sucking dick around the clock to make a living.
Shadowcat, I know that but she certainly can suck less cock per hour at that rate. Lets coin that phrase "cph" = cocks per hour. My point is at 200 & lower she has to suck a lot more CPH. Typically whichever girl I choose to chill with will spend all night with me, for the very fact that she knows I will pay well. I guess in some clubs 200 is making good money so to each his own I guess.
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Every now and then I like to read the hustle hut section to try and spot some of the more egregious plays, especially when I know I've been had as a sucker at a club in recent memory. Kind of like inoculation.
NOT that I'm against girls making money at the club, I just want to hold the line that I'm getting what I want out of the transaction.
And if there are strippers that are "wealthy", they probably got that wealth through other means (providing extras, using drugs as VIP selling points/selling drugs to customers, etc.)
CLAIMS is the KEY word here. Have you actually seen her REAL account info? I'll bet not! Hope you don't believe this claim.
"They all hate men"
I guess turnabout is Fair Play. There are a hell of a lot of members here who thru their comments express dislike or even hatred of dancers &/or women.
Even Alucard's comment up there has a tone of contempt for the dancer Gawker was talking about, as if it's completely ludicrous that someone would have managed to save up a quarter of a million in a 10 year period. The general opinion of strippers is that we're all drug-addicted whores (and there are some, yes) just as the general opinion of strip club patrons is that they're all pathetic losers.
It's really a shame that sexuality is still so taboo there's so much emphasis placed on it in regards to your worth as a person. God forbid anyone realize that we're all just people that like getting it on with other people.
*All SW strippers are "clean" dancers who allow minimal touching
*The clean dancers struggle because there are whores in their clubs offering extras, much to the dismay of the clean girls
*Nevertheless, the clean dancers claim to earn $400-600 per average nite
*You can not believe much of what you read on SW
I do like reading their club reviews from the dancers perspective.
Normally the price for FS there is 200-300 with 200 being the norm. I have had two different girls at 100 which (one I have been seeing otc for 4.5 yr who no longer dances there average at motel $133). The other girl was one I had done itc at 200 on around seven occasions and that day she offered it to me at 100. A 21 yo girl I did for 200 a coupla months ago I did recently in CR for 150.
As far as these girls lowballing themselves I strongly disagree. Backpage call girls in Houston are constantly offering 80 dollar specials. I have had several women off Seeking Arrangement in the 100-150 range, one for as little as 60, another for zero. A friend who is not VIP at the club has had girls from the club over to his house for FS at 150. A stripper at the club I have been seeing for awhile offered me 200 motel / 100 CR when she danced there. Once a man sees one on a regular basis pop comes down. While I have paid as much as 300 to do one in the club this was very infrequent and I no longer do this. I would say a man can have a tip level girl in the club (blonde Cali girl x cheerleader, super good looking) for around $200 which is the market price for a high level professional escort in Houston - one hour session.
As a coin dealer I buy low and sell high. A coin can have a market (retail) price of 200 and I can get it wholesale from walkup traffic to my table for 100-150 or for basically the same amount at auction. I use the same strategy when negotiation pop with girls. I have had girls initially offer me 200 for FS in VIP and not just jumping on that the price comes down to 150.
No, I am not gonna spend 300 on dances when I have three girls currently on roster (2 at motel, 1 incall) at 100-140. One is x stripper I have been seeing going on 5 yr. I have had a number of strippers as mistresses and am a very experienced hobbyist.
I have been approached in the club by professional high quality escorts who offer one hour motel sessions at 200 and will say "I dance to recruit clients."
Just have a look through Payer11's photo gallery and you'll realize that his definition of "high quality" could be somewhat "laxer" than the rest of us here. :-)
Good on you for finding fs that cheap but damn man. I wonder what kind of girls some of you are sticking your dicks in.. Wrap it up man, at that price in order to make a living she needs.to be sucking dick around the clock to make a living.